omariqy

1 hour ago, Panto_Villan said:

Do you think the Jews had any right to a state in Palestine?

I think you just have to look at my previous posts to know that I have always empathised with the Jewish people and the oppression they have faced. In Europe in particular at that time. The holocaust is the biggest tragedy ever. There was a time where Jewish people had peace and prosperity under Muslim rule. The oppression they faced came mainly in Europe. That’s not me dismissing what Arabs have done to them, I am aware of that too. I don’t think it was anyone else’s right to give someone else’s state to another people. The Balfour declaration was set out to give Jewish people a home without impeding on the rights of the indigenous population. The terrorists Zionists have made it a political mission to oust another to make their home. That’s where my issue lies. Zionism doesn’t reflect all Jews. In fact many Jews oppose the idea of Zionism and Israel. Zionism is a political movement in my eyes, not a religious movement. 

I know fully well what Arabs/Palestinans have done wrong and the crimes that have been committed by them. I took umbrage with people on this thread painting them as wishing for violence and losing a war. You can’t kill hundreds of thousands and then remove millions of others with no right to return, you can’t treat a race under different laws and oppose apartheid laws and expect no resistance and subservience. It doesn’t mean that people can kill innocent people but it does provide context to what has happened since Balfour declaration was signed. 

14 minutes ago, magnkarl said:

Did you still not read the history of the country you are protesting for?

Start with how the Arabs reacted to Israel getting the nod in the UN, if that is too old, go for the 60s, 70s, 80s, or maybe the 2000s, when two intifadas were underway, bombing universities, cafes, schools and cinemas. All civilian targets, Palestinians and Arabs have a habit of pretending to be victims when they often start each single war with Israel. They’re pretty much the only country in the world who expect winners terms when they’re beaten in war over and over.

I'm fully aware of that and I'm fully aware that history doesn't start in the 1960s or by a select few events. I'm fully aware of Haganha, Irgun and Lehi. Or Menachem Begin, the terrorist who became prime minister. The various terrorist bombings in the early formation of Israel. The Deir Yassin massacre. The driving out of hundreds of thousands from their homes. You pick out incidents like they came out of nowhere and that it's a war in your eyes. Intifada means resistance or uprising. Resistance against the occupier and coloniser. You dismiss it like it's nothing.

Stay classy 

51 minutes ago, magnkarl said:

You indirectly said Palestinians support Hamas in polling due to being shot at, starved or whatever. Surely then they wouldn’t have the 40% support in the West Bank? There’s a strong case to be made about some of the undercurrents in Palestinian society (see intifada, terror, corruption, treatment of anyone not Sunni, male and heterosexual) not exactly being something Norway, Ireland and Spain should support without at least asking the question about what they intend to do about it.  Palestinians are capable of planning mass terrorism, but not of feeding their own people, I find it all a bit too easy to blame it all on Israel.

I've just read your last few posts in bewilderment. Israel gets invaded every 5 years? Who did the invading really in all this? The West Bank is hardly paradise. There's stories every day of Israeli soldiers terrorising the general populace. Let's not even starts with the illegal settlements or the settlers killing of burning olive trees. You simply matters to Palestinians having a victim mentality or supporting violence. Yet conveniently forget what drives all this. Just like it will be forgotten what Israel did in these months when the next terrorist is 'born' who saw his entire family tree get wiped off the earth.  

2 minutes ago, Chindie said:

ICJ orders immediate halt to Rafah offensive.

Anti-semitism claims filed already you suspect.

Will they listen? Will they ****. 

I mean read anything on the Oslo accord in any detail and you can see there were major issues with it like the right of return, the right of self determination for Palestinians, the issues of illegal settlements. Pro Zionists will say it was the best deal they were gonna get but that’s like saying Gaza was great before Hamas got involved. It’s disingenuous. 

I understand the need to increase revenue but it’s not been handled that well imo. They’ve known for ages who would be impacted and could have started dialogue a while ago. £80 off the club shop probably costs the club around half that. 900 seats moved is what £36,000? Pays for Olsen’s wages for a week. They could have done a price match or a discount as a one off for the inconvenience. Also who the f is going to sit in the north stand and pay top dollar for it?

Minimum of 48 games next season. Embrace the squad depth.

5 hours ago, HongKongVillan said:

I take it you have heard this is "officially" done?

34 minutes ago, blandy said:

I'm a little bit torn about it. On the one hand, it's clearly right that Palestine be recognised as a nation. But the glitch is that currently the government of Gaza (rather than Palestine overall) is holding hostages, mounted a terrorist attack, is fighting a war with Israel's IDF, and is about an awful a government as you can get, both for the people of Gaza and for any nation. So I could see why there might be some reticence right now to hold off on recognition (though it should have been granted years ago).

But this is addressed to Abbas and their ‘government’.

It’s like when people (cough Jonny Gould) got outraged at footballer holding Palestinian flags. These people don’t want Palestine to exist lets be honest.

Welcome (back) Ross 

Surely this is a great thing? Why are the peace loving Zionist’s in uproar in the comments? This isn’t Hamas. They want peace no? Weird…

terrorists gonna terrorise 

3 hours ago, omariqy said:

 

Can someone mock this up with a Villa badge etc?

5 minutes ago, mole86 said:

If there’s a Scottish theme to one of the kits surely it will be related to William McGregor rather than McGinn

It’s actually Alan Hutton

3 hours ago, El Segundo said:

I predict the shorts will have massive padded arses 

You’re not far off with that btw. Not the padded arse but who it refers to

4 minutes ago, bcarpet said:

I saw on twitter  that this is from Optus Sport Australia and they do different "under the skin" segments on different clubs so isn't anything to do with our documentary.  

No idea myself - just passing on what I read

Yeah I don’t think it is anything to do with the doc

3 hours ago, Villa_Vids said:

Think it’s slightly different to this 

45 minutes ago, Chindie said:

It won't come to anything, but it's the right decision. 

The Israelis spluttering with rage at the courts decision to go for them as well is particularly sweet. They can't stand that the world doesn't think they have a carte blanche to do whatever they want.

They have been outside the scope of international law since their formation so this won’t mean anything to them.