PaulC

hardcore lefties call him too conservative... and hardcore righties call him an outright communist, whoever is the president is going to get stick. I just know he's much much better than Bush

For me it's Gabby's goal against QPR. If we'd gone in at half time 1-0 down we might not have had the subsequent revival.

100% agree

Yes like  the health care bill that  expanded health care to provide affordable health insurance to low and middle income families is a real right wing policy.

Look at all his right wing bills that the republicans have blocked since he became president

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/50177069

Some might say the lib dems aren't a real party anymore.

Yes very true, I was just making the point that party's split and change over the years . What labour stood for in its formative years bares no relation to what they stand for today.

So your point? They're a totally different party to what now to what they were in 1970 and labour are totally different to the first labour govt of Ramsey macdonald.

People who make these comparisions need to check their history Obama is nothing like Nixon. One was an ultra right republican who was evil and totally corrupt.

The Obama administration is under fire from left, right and center for the Justice Dept. seizing phone records of Associated Press journos without warrants...and in an unrelated case, the IRS has admitted it targeted conservative political organizations for auditing and/or denial of tax exemptions...

 

Obama is looking more and more like Richard Nixon. Absolute disgrace. Obama is a **** trainwreck of a president.

You cant compare Obama with Nixon. If you want a trainwreck of a president then choose Bush

I see Southampton under Pochettino struggling big time next season. They showed glimpses of collapsing towards the end of this season. They could easily go down.

Didn't they just ease off a little. They beat some of the bigger sides at home. Guess it depends on who they sign. I think Hull and whoever wins the playoff will struggle.

Right now we're 3pts off this season's top half. I know it's a bit of a freak of a season but it surely shows that top half next season is hardly a stretch.

Yes fr Liverpool are 7th. Theres not much for us to make up beyond them. So I think we should at least be going for 8th spot

TBH, it's relief that the Wigs have gone rather than us, but I'd rather have 19 of them than a Chelski or Man Ci£y.

Probably mean we'd win the title then!!

Yes its those type of clubs with mega rich owners that are running football not the minnow clubs

Yes would be interesting to see what price we would get on top 6

lol, he can still do the overhead kicks though!

Wigan - the type of club who are at the heart of why England has such a poor national team.

 

Figueroa, Boyce, Joel Robles, Di Santo, Crusat, Kone.  All cheap foreign crap that could've been the likes of Westwood or Bennett or Lowton.

 

The turd that wouldn't flush has finally been pushed round the u-bend by an Arsenal shaped bog brush.

 

Good riddance.

The same could be said for Arsenal and Chelsea then. Not cheap but still foreign

Has anybody watched ' The Stoning of Soraya M' . That was the most harrowing filming of an execution I have ever seen.

As Newcastle and Sunderland are safe you'd expect both Spurs and Arsenal to win really

Martinez, Di Santo, Maloney, McCarthy and McManaman will all leave.

Could depend on whether he gets the Everton job! What other top jobs are there going? He's turned down us and Liverpool

 

Wigan are a poor excuse for a club, their attendances are even worse than the scum down the road when they were int he prem, if you can remember that far back.

 

 

This argument really annoys me.  

 

Wigan are kinda like Walsall, only instead of being sandwiched between Birmingham and Wolverhampton they are sandwiched between Liverpool and Manchester.  

 

They were non league until about the time we last won the title, and then they spent 20 years hanging around in the lower divisions.   If you happened to be from Wigan and over the age of lets say, 25, and your house is barely 15 miles from Anfield, or Goodison, or Old Trafford or Maine Road then can you really be blamed for supporting one of those clubs?  Ditto if you are from the areas immediately surrounding Wigan then your local team is probably going to Manchester United or Liverpool or Everton or City or Bolton.  You aren't going to support Wigan. They are utterly **** by geography. They probably have the smallest catchment area in the English game. 

 

Compare that to Sunderland (who you used as an example) who really only have one local rival then it's pretty obvious why the gates are so different in size.  If you live in Sunderland then you are closer to Edinburgh and Glasgow than you are to Manchester and Liverpool so if you want to go to a game then you support one of two teams or you have a six hour round trip for every home game.  I'm not sure why a club is more deserving of Premier League football because it has fewer local rivals or a bigger catchment area. 

 

Yes and Wigan is more famous for Rugby and George Orwell really. They were a non league club until 1978 and it wasn't until Dave Whelan took over they made progress through the leagues. Many people may dislike him because he's outspoken but what he has done for that football club is fantastic. The population of Wigan is only 81000 and they took nearly half that to Wembley. So its very unfair to knock them just because they are small.

Wigan are a poor excuse for a club, their attendances are even worse than the scum down the road when they were int he prem, if you can remember that far back.

I'm glad to see them go. The more 'bigger' clubs there are in the prem, the better. I'd rather teams come to villa park with a decent following which youre more likely to get with Sunderland than Wigan.

Don't agree that the more bigger clubs in the premiere league the better. Kind of sad to see Wigan go really! No matter what happens though they have got an FA Cup to show for it. If they can hold on to Martinez and their squad they can come straight back.

If we can hold on to Benteke and make some useful additions who knows maybe top 6/8. If West Brom finish 8th this season,  I certainly think we're at least as good as they are.

I didn't expect this from Wigan

Yes Maloney has been a constant threat

 

 

jesus sky are such Wigan fans its cringe worthy

 

Why would you expect them not to be? Their last day of the season show is going to be a total damp squib unless Wigan win tonight.

 

no i expect them to be but if Arsenal win it sets up a Champions League showdown on the final day between two clubs who have an extremely fierce rivalry

 

yet that seems to have been completely ignored....so far

 

yep and although Arsenal hold the advantage in that regard I think their final game of the season maybe harder than the Spurs one.

I think its a great thread. The fact that on the night we could find whether Villa will remain in the Premiere league and we are talking about Barry Bannan - brilliant!

Yeah Shane Meadows is definitely one of the best the UK has to offer. Been a big fan since 24/7, and apart from Once Upon a Time in the Midlands i've loved all his work.

 

Have to say though, I thought Tyrannosaur owed a lot more to Ken Loach than Meadows. That film was a like a wet dream for me, with Paddy (who I adore) directing Peter Mullan, Eddie Marsan and Olivia Colman who are all favourites of mine.

 

Brilliant, powerful stuff.

I couldn't have a wet dream over Eddie Marsan to be honest but a good actor. Real nasty piece of work in that film.