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Pardon my ignorance...but if Xia gets Recon or Lotus Group to give Villa 40 million for naming rights of VP. Isnt this problem solved?

1 hour ago, omariqy said:

How much will we save on wages on?

Terry - £60k

Snodgrass - £45k

Onomah - £20k

Samba - £30k

Johnstone - £25k

Tuanzebe - £20k

Hutton - £30k

Gabby - £30k

Grabban - £30k

Estimated - £290k per week = £15m

Sales

Adomah - £7m

Hogan - £4m

McCormack - £2m

Elphick - £3m

Gil - £3m

Amavi - £8m (not sure if we can count this)

That's £27m + £15m = £42m

 

Amavi wont count i dont think. 

Rename Villa Park to Recon Park for 20 million. Problem solved. Rename it for 35 million and we have 15 million to spend ;). 

Easy!

3 minutes ago, Rob182 said:

A twitter page called ‘SwissRamble’ just posted the following thread:

 

Following Aston Villa’s defeat in the Championship play-off final, I’ve taken a look at their Financial Fair Play (FFP) challenges. The conclusion is that they will be fine for 2017/18, but will need to take action to meet the 2018/19 target. Some thoughts follow #AVFC

FFP is assessed over a three-year period (current season plus previous two seasons). Annual allowable loss is £13m in Championship and £35m in Premier League, so #AVFC maximum FFP losses are £83m in 2016/17, £61m in 2017/18 and £39m from 2018/19.

#AVFC stated in their 2016/17 accounts that “EFL Financial Fair Play regulations continue to provide a significant challenge”. This problem is getting worse, as their parachute payments are falling at the same time as their allowable FFP losses decrease.

One point that should be noted is that FFP losses are different from losses in the accounts, so #AVFC can exclude around £11m a year (for academy £5.9m, community £2.0m and infrastructure £2.9m) plus once-off stadium revaluation (booked as £45m impairment in 2015/16).

In this way, I’ve calculated that #AVFC were £38m below FFP limit of £83m in 2016/17. Total reported profit before tax for 3-year period was £123m, but the FFP loss was reduced to £45m after £78m exclusions: FFP deductions of £33m (3 years at £11m) plus £45m stadium impairment.

For 2017/18, #AVFC parachute payment fell from £41m to £34m, while profit on player sales down from £27m to (estimated) £11m. Assumes no change in wage bill or revenue (commercial already halved in 16/17; match day should be same as 16/17 – attendance same, ticket prices frozen).

So #AVFC 2017/18 loss before tax estimated at £37m, i.e. £22m worse than 2016/17. After excluding £78m (FFP deductions £33m plus stadium impairment £45m), the total FFP loss for 3-year monitoring period would be £55m, i.e. £6m below 2017/18 FFP limit of £61m.

For 2018/19, #AVFC parachute payment falls from £34m to £17m. If we assume no other changes and zero profit on player sales, we can see how much money Villa need to find to meet FFP limit of £39m. The shortfall is £45m, which must be made up by cuts in wage bill or player sales.

Of course, this is only an estimate, where numbers could easily change, e.g. revenue might further fall in Championship, so more money would have to be found. However, central point remains valid: #AVFC need to take action this summer to reduce losses to avoid issues with FFP.

I don’t know how accurate his info is. He seems to have included the Amavi transfer in last year’s figures, and that £45m shortfall sounds a bit.. worrying. Maybe others can verify his info, or provide their own tuppance. Kenneth Williams photo.

Gabby Terry Hutton Bunn etc wages off already is a saving. 

Sale of Gil, Hogan, Whelan etc and a few others plus renaming Villa Park should get us over the line. 

Werent we signing that Sheffield youngster Sean Clare. 

Theres no world cup or euros at the end of the next season. Hes 22. I think he will stay one more year. 

If he is adamant on leaving.. then maybe a loan to an Premier League club would be best. Get a small fee and let him get Premier League experience. Hopefully somehow we get promoted and he can come home. 

But i think he will stay one more year. 

Chelsea signing Traore for the rumoured 30 mil would be quite handy! Doubt it will happen though. 

RHM must be a start next season. We need to give him a run of games. Dont give me this hes too young rubbish. Look at Sessegnon. RHM is faster.. has a better finish and is a more solid build. His injuries are what are holding him back. He is ready. I would play him through the middle with Green outwide and Kodjia/Adomah. 

Central midfield is where we need to invest or get some one on loan. A better version of Onomah ideally. CB is another area where we cannot gamble with youth. Especially if Chester goes. I imagine Elphick will get a run or at least be back up. 

1 hour ago, DCJonah said:

Agreed. 

He has been good but I can't think of many games where I feel like he got us the points. He has been part of a solid defence but not someone who can't be replaced. 

Yep. I still dont think hes all that. Most our clean sheets were because the opposition barely had a shot on target. When he was called upon like the Final.. he got beat. I think he will be a great keeper.. but i think we can find one or two keepers on the cheap that are good enough. 

Its a rebuild.. then a rebuild requires a new manager. Bruce had his chance.. rebuilt the side and its an aging side and our best players were on loan. 

We have a very good youth side.. if Bruce is willing to back 2-3 of the better ones like RHM Green Doyle Hayes Lyden etc then maybe hes worth staying.. especially if he can convince Terry/Grealish/Chester to stay. 

I wouldnt mind Dean Smith. 

Personally, i would offer John Terry the job. Demands respect. Plenty of professional experience. He would have learnt off the best managers in the world. 

Has a great relationship with Jack.. who i think he can persuade to stay one more year. He also has great contacts at Chelsea who he can loan one or two of their best players (which they have plenty of!)

Regardless of who it is.. i think it is integral they start building our sides with the likes of Hepburn Murphy O'Hare. They need to be involved.. and not just when we are down to the bare bones. Green is another who should get plenty of matches if hes fit. Doyle Hayes needs a run of games. Theres no point signing Whelan and Jedinak type players.. who even if we went up we would need to replace them. Lets give these youngsters a run and see what they can do. 

CB - we dont appear to have any good prospects.. i believe Suliman is suppose to be good but wasnt good on any of his loans. CB's develop alot later. We may need to put whatever funds we have into replacing JT.  

Kodjia - i dont think he will leave. Barely played.. big injuries almost 30. Nobody will touch him imo. 

Grealish - big big move for him. Hes only 22 and no euros or world cup in the following end of season.. he may just stay one more season i think. 

Chester - i think he will leave sadly. 

GK - Shrewsbury keeper would be nice. 

He works that hard all the time. I am glad people are starting to take notice. His job was to shut down Traore. Yes Hutton did a great job on him but Mile and Hourihane took turns covering Hutton and doubling up on Traore. 

Needs to be back on set pieces. Snoddys have been awful lately. 

I would celebrate like that too if my investment doubled in value (90 min away from it anyway..)

but in all seriousness.. fair play to the guy.. we could easily be Sunderland. He has saved this club. 

Keep Grabban up top. 

Kodjia is not fit yet. He needs a good pre season. 

He is a fantastic option off the bench with 30 to go. He can really change a game. I dont think Grabban or Hogan can have that impact. 

I saw on youtube. Some one filming behind the players warming up.. most players looked on when we had a chance.. but Kodjia jumps up thinking we scored to celebrate. Hes really into it. Just something i noticed that impressed me!

16 hours ago, PieFacE said:

Big game player.

Not sure he's the best fit against Fulham, they're a bit more mobile and I could see Jedi getting caught out. But it's hard to drop him after the last 2 games.

Be interesting to see what Bruce does.

Wouldnt like to be Bruce picking the side. 

Safe is to keep it unchanged which is probably what i would do. But for something different.

Would it be worth dropping Adomah (i really dont want to!) and playing Bikir/Whelan with Hourihane and Mile just for the extra legs. Move Grealish wide left or play him and Snoddy narrow just behind Grabban.

On 16/05/2018 at 09:41, LakotaDakota said:

Funny how opinions change, He had been mentioned briefly in a couple of previous transfer window threads but this is just after the story broke last year that he was on holiday playing golf with Bruce :

https://www.villatalk.com/topic/16304-transfer-speculation-summer-2017/?page=78&tab=comments#comment-2232205

 

haha you can see we were burnt by previous situations. Credit to Bruce he brought in proper pro's. JT.. i take it all back. You have been magnificent for this club on and off the pitch. I just hope we get to see him lifting the trophy to cap the season off. 

24 minutes ago, TheAuthority said:

Just re-watched the match. The ESPN commentator mentioned that Boro have scored in every match since February 17th until they met us in the play offs.

Credit to you for putting yourself through that again! Horrid game! Good atmosphere though!

Bruce deserves credit.. i sitll dont think hes the man to take us forward if we are promoted. But credit to him for turning this club around. JT has been a huge influence in the attitude and training of the players and JT himself credits Bruce for getting him to VP. 

I just hope we can get promoted so he can get the credit he deserves. I think we under estimate how bad of a state this club was in. 

Who is this bloke? really kicked on this season.. the Scottish Cafu and support/love from the fans has given him another leg!

Deserves a new deal. Never thought id say that. (1 year deal.....)

On 16/05/2018 at 09:16, rodders0223 said:

If his confidence isn't high after having a standing ovation from the whole ground and the away fans singing his name im the first half then there is no hope.

doesnt work like that. Sometimes your inner self belief can only change by what you do or what you think. Not what others think about you. 

He and Snoddy are due big games.. leave the best for last. He will score in the final. 

He is finally realising there is more to it than just attacking. His work ethic and fitness has improved tenfolds since he has returned from injury. 

Credit to the lad. When he plays like that.. there is less pressure to create on him as hes putting in a shift as well. Whereas before we needed him to create as he was just a passenger if he didnt. 

Fair play. 

Credit to Steve Bruce and John Terry and all the coaching staff and senior players. Really really had an effect on him and other players too likely. Terry imp articular.. wow. the way he treats him.. its like his own son. Arm around the shoulder. You could see Jack looks upto him. 

1 minute ago, Demitri_C said:

If we do that we will get spanked. We can't afford to sit back here and lose. We could easily implode as we have done in the past making the 2nd leg a almost impossible task. If we can somehow sneak a draw id be confident at villa park of a win

I think thats what Bruce has in mind. Just because we are at home doesnt mean we are going to win. Go out there and win away. 

I agree if we sit back.. Adama will kill us eventually. Bad plan. 

From what i gathered from the press conference. 

We will sit back and contain them and try to 'remain' in the fixture by the time we goto Villa Park.

He believes 40% of their goals are from set pieces. Our experience is vital. 

Whelan and Jedinak will both start with Grealish ahead of them. 

8 hours ago, TRO said:

It will be a real nail biter.....but we have taken 4 points off them in the league, already.

I think it could well mirror the league result......win away, draw at Home.

Traore missed 1 game or got sent off in the other didnt he? he is the danger man

Huge game. Cant wait. Be nice to see us turn up in the big matches and not bottle it. 

Boro will be tough over two legs. Traore Downing Gestede will all be extra pumped for this one. 

Picks itself i think. Boro arent a big side.. their strength is their speed and mobility in midfield. If Bikir is fit i would play him but hes in doubt. 

I have a sneaky suspicion that Bruce will play Mile and Whelan in the first leg with Grealish. 

----------------------------Johnstone-------------------------

Elmohamady------Terry------Chester-------Hutton

----------------------Whelan-----------Hourihane----------

------------------------------Grealish---------------------------

Snodgrass--------------------------------------Adomah

-----------------------------Grabban--------------------------

Potential Sub changes:

Kodjia on for Adomah - Grabban central and Kodjia wide left. 

Onomah for Whelan - give us more impedus if we are behind... or if we are ahead Mile for Hourihane to shut the game down. 

Kodjia is not ready to start and i think hes been his best when hes come off the bench against tiring players. Gave us a spark. Hogan has been awful.. i would even have RHM ahead of him. 

Adomah against his former club.. i think he will be up for it. He will also help out Hutton contain Traore who has speed. Kodjia will just leave Hutton all alone. 

We also have a not so secret weapon.  Agnew. He will know Boro inside out.