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27 minutes ago, sexbelowsound said:

How is ‘Good times’ a goodbye?

If it is and that’s all we get then he can **** off with my blessing. 

he made it black and white... its a good bye man!

Fact of the matter is we need to make FFP right... and hes the only way at the moment. Hes forced out imo. 

all the silence from all parties at AVFC...  smells to me like a take over is occurring. Remember similar around the Lerner sale. 

1 hour ago, Jareth said:

Apparantly for Sunderland something similar happened as it was being sold, £150 mill turned up in this way but it reflected the £120 odd mill debt being written off. We don't have that much debt so it's an interesting figure indeed. No way Tony has sold us for more than we are worth, so will be interesting to see what deal transpires. Maybe he's sold some of the parent company too, if so I reckon it's to a 'mate' in China...

But his mates in china probably can't move funds either.

1 minute ago, TheEgo said:

No as 57m of new shares isn't 49% I've seen that tweet, it's not true. IF Recon are 'chipping in'  be worried. They've had this past month and more too. Where has @Deisler123 gone. Whatever happened to that 50m GDP loan approval? (this would be bad, as just more debt)

But Tony owns recon.. so he owes himself does he not? Who knows.. it's a bit up in the air at this stage.

Doesn't this mean he's made available for purchase of 49% of the club and he remains the owner. I don't think someone bought the club. At least something is happening. Looks like recon will be chipping in imo

We can't be happy with strike force when we lost Grabban.. likely sale of Kodjia. Bs report.

3 hours ago, Junxs said:

I think we are being misled slightly here

I dont think this is a new sponsorship deal at all

Kindred Group owns both brands - Unibet and 32 Red, I think they just decided to change the name of the brand which appears on the shirt under the same deal.

 

well Unibet are still sponsoring the training tops..so maybe there is two separate deals?

I can see Stoke coming back for Whelan. 

22 hours ago, Zatman said:

thats the problem. none of the high wages are wanted elsewhere so we will have to get rid of Chester, Jack and probably Hourihane

we are in trouble

10 million wont make or break our financial issues. Worth keeping at all costs. Grealish i can understand. 40 million will make a drastic difference. 

Talk that Adama will goto Chelsea (which we have a sell on clause and Boro want to buy Adomah. I am sure we can raise enough sales without Chesterl eaving. 

Bruce experience will help next season.. with the young lads.. but my fear he will just sign some pls cheap players instead. If he plays our youth I'd be happy he stays... But I dont think he would.

I'd get Terry in as manager. Make sure if we get Chelsea in the cup he doesn't walk out on us in that match!

He's not on the highest wage. He will be our skipper. He is the heart of the defense. We will have huge problems at the back. He and grealish must be kept if we have any aspiration next season. Sell the rest. I don't care. We can't afford to let him go. Save the wages elsewhere.

(4-3-3 Sarkic; Bree, Suliman, Bedeau, Clark; Lyden, Doyle-Hayes; Green, Clarke, O’Hare; Hepburn-Murphy,

So is this our best under 23 side?

If that side were forced to start the Championship.. we would be in a bit of bother. Where are the weak links. To me with the players we have and what we would need to compete:

Steer in goal for Sarkic. 

Chester MUST remain. If not we need two CB's. Suliman can be the back up CB. 

Really need a new left back. Try and sell Taylor if possible. 

Id like to see Lyden Bikir and Grealish (Hourihane if we have to sell Jack) in midfield.  Sell Mile and Whelan if we can. 

Adomah to come in for Clarke. It really does depend who we can sell and who we can afford to keep. 

Realistic line up. 

Steer, Bree, Chester, Tuanzebe, (Loan LB), Lyden, Bjarnason, O'Hare, Green, Adomah, Hepburn Murphy. 

A few loans, free signings. to push a few kids to the bench.. otherwise we wont win too many. Big big job. I think we need to keep Bruce. We need him to wheel and deal here. 

On 06/06/2018 at 18:24, Zatman said:

I dread now to see how next seasons squad looks like

call me crazy but im kind of excited to see our kids play together (who already have combinations) sprinkled with a bit of experience players like Whelan Chester Hourihane if we can keep them. 

We need to sell Jedinak Kodjia and Lansbury who are on massive wages and didnt play more than 20 games last season. Then somehow get rid of Richards McCormack Tshibola. 

Hopefully thats the end of the big wages.. players come here and collect their big wages and dont give a shit. Terry changed that a little this season.. but still too many players at this club not earning their keep. 

Surely someone will gamble on McCormack? WBA? fee can be as low as 2-3 million just to get his wages off our books. Hogan still has some use.. hes still young. If we play the right way. 

Not looking good for Dr. I think he thought we would be promoted by now. He thought we would be competing with europeans finest within 5-10 years. 

His silence is concerning me. Normally he would debunk a bad rumour on twitter quite quickly. Calling them Jerknalists. Now about himself selling the club... hes deadly silent?

Mellberg may get the Malmo job. Id love him it if he became our manager one day and brought in Laursen as his assistant. At least we would have passion for the club.

3 minutes ago, hippo said:

* for 2018/19 we wouldn't have problems - going forward we might at the parachute payments go down to zero after this season.

thats when we start selling our best player from that season.. RHM or whoever breaks through. We are on our way to being a small feeder club. 

Sad. I think selling Grealish is our best hope whilst we still have some good players around. May give us a chance to buy a few or get a few in on loan as well to help them. 

Apparently hes good with the young lads. As said above. Just give him a coaching gig and force him to retire to free up funds. 

Doesnt he have any mates in the Chinese football league. They can buy Grealish for 40 million. Loan him out to us. Then we can pay 15 million the year after and get him back. Tony can build them some houses or whatever he does over there

2 hours ago, omariqy said:

Right I have had a go at an FFP spreadsheet!!! 

Two tables - the first shows the wages saved on the players leaving after their loan spells or contracts expiring. The second shows players who I would hope would leave and who are already scheduled to leave. Figures are estimates and I may have completely missed the point around wages saved (I read that you can use the total amount saved in this years FFP figures).

 

 

Good effort mate. Only problem i see.. we will need to buy 5-6 players + there wages as well. So may bring us under 40M again. Hopefully we rename the ground to make up for our 'spending spree' to replace the players we released/sold. 

Bobby Reid off contract? Wallace from Sheffield?  They can't be on massive wages

Has anyone factored in the Recon Training Complex. We dont know how much money that has brought in. Plus any stadium rights.. new shirt sponsors etc?

5 minutes ago, hippo said:

That I believe is against FFP rules. He can sell the naming rights but it has to be for a legit amount - you can't pump money in by the back door.

The more crafty approach is to look to be spending less ala Wolves.

Man City did it didnt they? Well we should be able to get at least something from it. It has to be done. We can always rename it back when we go back to the premier league. 

Id take 30 million with a sell on clause. Also to be loaned back for the next season. Thanks Utd.