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How was the famous Anfield atmosphere tonight?

Presume they got behind the team and inspired them to a win?

7 minutes ago, VillaChris said:

Really liked watching Haraldsson, he found pockets of space beyond our midfield nicely and on another night could've had a couple of assists.

Only 20 and Lille signed him for around 10m from Copenhagen last summer so guess he's already in 30-40m bracket but would be an interesting one to target I think.

Thought he was very good yes.

The sort of player we should be signing from Copenhagen mind, not Lille for quadruple.

He's so so so good.

Consistent.

Inspiring.

Watching champions league other night. Donnarumma? Raya? Lunin? Clown shows compared to this guy.

Just now, T-Dog said:

Since Kamara got injured IMO, which would make sense really.

We need more from him though.

It's no good only being of use when we're flying.

We need our better players like Doug to lift the rest.

Tielemans is impacting games more and he's simply not as good a footballer as Doug.

Not sure what he's playing at recently.

Grown into a brilliant player, but gone back a bit to thinking he's that good he doesn't have to try. Coasting around, losing the ball in really dangerous scenarios, not driving anyone on.

If we want to sell someone big for some FFP movement, he's clear at the top of my list.

Not appalling, again.

Not good either, again.

No zip in his movement. I have no idea what position on the pitch he could hold down regularly for any decent side.

Getting rid of Philogene to loan Zaniolo will go down as a smelly one.

5 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said:

'from' the semi-finals, not 'to' the semi-finals

You get a point for reaching SF of conference league.

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Clubs that reach the round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals or final of the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League, or the semi-finals or final of the UEFA Europa Conference League are awarded an extra point for each such round.

9 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said:

Also not strong, not good in the air, not defensively sound, not good on the ball 

Above all that he's just a dummy. So little thought in everything he does.

You can see when he's going to **** up, like that crap pass right at the start. He's not even balanced and just throws a foot at it.

More Stevie waste.

6 minutes ago, AshVilla said:

Liverpool can overturn a 3 goal deficit if they actually try.

Agree.

Also, even if they win next week 2-1 and go out, that's a +0.25.

Decent chance of a Liverpool win regardless I reckon.

Germany edge ahead.

16.786 plays 16.750.

Thanks for nothing Liverpool you tits.

3 minutes ago, useless said:

Some bloody over reactions in here, we haven't been that bad

If all three of those shots had gone in, would you be blaming Martinez?

No. They were excellent, one on one saves.

We've been fine on the ball, open as anything without it.

We're so easy to attack against.

A lot of it comes from Doug and Tielemans. Softer than puppy shit.

Emi Martinez. Man alive. What a goalkeeper.

1 hour ago, mjmooney said:

Very pessimistic. I think this is where our season unravels. 

NO

Well. Maybe.

But at the start of the season... 6th + a European quarter-final? That's great!

Five years ago yesterday we were playing at Rotherham. (Yes, that win)

Can see Kesler, Lenglet, Tim, Diaby, Zaniolo and Duran all getting starts.

27 minutes ago, stewiek2 said:

He'd cost a fair whack. Haven't Bayern got something like a €40m sell on clause?

No clue how true that is.

He's an outstanding forward. Real athlete with some size, which we dearly need.

Him and Watkins have both broadly been lone strikers this season, it'd be interesting to see them paired up. Would be absolutely ferocious to play against.

Mad Jhon to fill in for either would be a nice role for him as well.

3 hours ago, Pongo Waring said:

I think we beat Arsenal on Sunday 

That would be really nice.

21 minutes ago, ben1505 said:

What’s a win and a draw worth in terms of UEFA coefficient? Is there a difference in each tier?

German wins are worth very slightly 'more' than English because of the coefficient calculation. All theirs are divided by 7, ours 8, due to the number of teams in Uefa competitions at the start.

33 minutes ago, ThunderPower_14 said:

Have you got CVByrne on mute?

No, his posts are too funny to hide away.

One person losing it doesn't mean anyone nervous should be tarred with same brush.

4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

I’ll point it out for you after the Arsenal game. 

Don't think Utd will beat Bournemouth so there may not be as much poo as 'usual'.

23 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

Being nervous and worried about missing out is one thing.

Seen lots of this.

23 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

Shitting your pants and crying it’s all over after every set back is another.

Not seen much of this?

1 minute ago, duke313 said:

At what point do we see him start at RB? We need Konsa back at CB with Pau.

I'd be very tempted v Bournemouth.

Give him the license to get forward and have Digne more withdrawn.

Either Kesler or Moreno should start that game.

19 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said:

If both positions earn Champions League, I don't care.

OK.

19 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said:

I am hoping for that to be effectively confirmed by the end of next week. If we are 5th at that point, we can do the same in terms of resting because Man United won't catch us.

Too many matches still to play IMO. Across Europe as well as PL. Every match counts towards coefficient even if the tie is over. 6-0 Arsenal in leg 1 v Bayern probably isn't a great result for us.

Because I'm insane as well... Newcastle have a very easy run in, we won't be resting anyone while they can mathematically catch us in 5th.

On 05/04/2024 at 23:29, omariqy said:

So I have looked at a few different scenarios 

Scenario 1 - Man City, Bayern, Liverpool, Leverkusen, Ath Madrid, Villa go through

Scenario 2 - Madrid, Bayern, Liverpool, Leverkusen, Ath Madrid, Villa go through

Scenario 3 - Madrid, Arsenal, Liverpool, Leverkusen, Ath Madrid, Lille go through

Scenario 4 - Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Leverkusen, Ath Madrid, Villa go through

Assume whoever goes through gets a draw away from home and a win at home

Current points totals are as follows

Germany - 16.357

England - 16.250

I’ve ignored the points totals of the non German/English teams below

Scenario 1 

Man City - 0.500 points in total

Bayern - 0.571 points

Arsenal - 0.125

Liverpool - 0.500 

Leverkusen - 0.571

West Ham 0.125

Dortmund - 0.143

Villa - 0.375

Germany - 17.660

England - 17.875

England have 3 teams and Germany have 2 teams through. Man City v Bayern in the semi is the deciding game you would think in that scenario. 

 

Scenario 2

Bayern - 0.571

Man City - 0.125

Liverpool - 0.500

Leverkusen - 0.571

West Ham - 0.125

Dortmund - 0.143

Villa - 0.375

Germany - 17.642

England - 17.375

In this scenario you are relying on Madrid to beat Bayern and Villa and Liverpool to get to/win their finals

 

Scenario 3

Man City - 0.125

Arsenal - 0.500

Bayern - 0.143

Liverpool - 0.500

Leverkusen - 0.571

West Ham - 0.125

Dortmund - 0.143

Villa - 0.125

Germany - 17.214

England - 17.5

In this scenario, you only have Leverkusen left who can get a maximum of 1.142 points for Germany if they win the whole thing. You’d be relying on Liverpool or Arsenal to get to the final/win it

 

Scenario 4 - probably the most likely scenario 

Man City - 0.500

Arsenal - 0.500

Bayern - 0.143

Liverpool - 0.500

Leverkusen - 0.571

West Ham - 0.125

Dortmund - 0.143

Villa - 0.375

Germany - 17.214

England - 18.25

In this scenario, only Leverkusen left with a maximum of 1.142 points available - i.e. max Germany can get is 18.356. England would just need to draw one game to get 2nd place in this scenario. I am discounting France and Spain as they are so far behind. 

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Just to add a 5th Scenario i.e. if City and Arsenal go out.

Scenario 5 - Madrid, Bayern, Liverpool, Leverkusen, Ath Madrid, Villa go through

Assume whoever goes through gets a draw away from home and a win at home

Current points totals are as follows

Germany - 16.357

England - 16.250

Scenario 5

Man City - 0.125

Arsenal - 0.125

Bayern - 0.571

Liverpool - 0.500

Leverkusen - 0.571

West Ham - 0.125

Dortumund - 0.143

Villa - 0.375

Germany - 17.642

England - 17.500

Scenario 5a - Madrid beat Bayern, Liverpool and Leverkusen get to the final, Villa go to the final

Bayern - 0.143

Liverpool - 0.500

Leverkusen - 0.500

Villa - 0.500

Germany - 18.285

England - 18.500

So not all hope is lost if both City and Arsenal lose. It just depends the manner of the defeats and if we can get 2 of Liverpool/West Ham/Villa into the final. 

We need to pin this to the top of the thread somehow.

3 hours ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said:

4th or 5th is totally irrelevant if the coefficient points work out, couldn't care less either way.

You don't care about 4th or 5th? Strange one. How can you not prefer 4th?

If we're 4th we'll be done with a few games left and be able to rest players for the European final we could be in.

Wonder if there's a scenario where we need to win that final to give us our first title in years, and also get us into the Champions League through the PL.