thegiddygambler

I can remember looking up attendance figures for the 2 clubs a good while ago. Incredibly, they did ONCE, yes one season only, achieve a higher average attendance than Villa! I believe it was in the 70s. Correction: in the early 70s they enjoyed a higher gate at least one season, we were a division below them at the time I believe. Source: European Football Statistics website

Yeah I can remember starting a thread on this about a year ago. There's a lot of myths about Villa being the middle class club. It's generally inaccurate. For example, an independent study found BCFC fans attending matches were on average on higher salaries than those going Villa Park. Though admittedly, that can also distort things as higher ticket prices at the sty would exclude poorer fans from attending. One thing we can say which is generally accurate is that: North Birmingham = Villa South Birmingham = Blues Though with Villa being the bigger club, the picture is not so obvious in South Birmingham! UTV, SOTC

agree too General, we need DYNAMIC leadership from the club's hierarchy! I was all for giving GH a chance this summer but I feel it has now largely become yet another unmitigated disaster. For it to drag on another month is too long. Of Course we have to be mindful of Gerard but the club need to make an announcement as to whether he is staying on before the Liverpool game!

Yes this is a very good observation General. Make sure whoever does the internet side at Villa is alerted to this. We're ten times the club Man City are! No way should they have so many more fans on facebook!

Loving the white socks General. Not happy about the lack of a collar though. I haven't been able to do a collar up Cantona properly since the 1996 AST computer kit!! That kit got us 4th place, a league cup and a fa cup semi final so don't knock it. We'd give our eye teeth for that now. A class kit is powerful, 92/93 was our best kit ever and we finished runners up!

Think you may be ok with that. Hardly a riddle youve written :winkold: What exactly does it mean?

Good Question! I so hope that its a total rebuild! I Randy wants any inspiration for a top stadium with 4 different looking stands tell him to have a look at Ibrox. Leeds East Stand is a beauty too! UTV

General can I take the word "renovation" to imply that North Stand plans have been scaled down and we won't be totally rebuilding it to create a sort of "flagship" stand if you like? Many thanks

500 + views and half a dozen responses implies some relevance to the C&B cause! UTV

Complete accidents I'm sure but quite funny nonetheless. 1) BBC piss poor rival to Soccer Saturday put on screen BENT 37 (og) West Ham 2 Villa 0 2) Sky Sports News bottom right of screen headline WEST HAM beat ASTON VILLA Bizarre!!!!!!!!!!!!

Agree with this post, I've also thought that in previous years/decades we've promoted Clarrie Blue possibly more than any other club. The badges were until very, very recently still on sale by the club. Bring C&B back!

Your reply to ourselves was sensible General thank you. I guess I'll never know why he did it, in my truly honest opinion it wasn't the actions of somebody in full control of their faculties. I gie the man credit for an improved style of play but some of his decisions, Villa at Anfield for example, are off the radar! This is his last big payday "I'll do whatever I want!"

Don't ask Villa fans General if they think his team tonight was CRACKERS ask the ITV pundits on television who couldn't stop talking about it. He has disgraced us, and we've gone out the cup with a whimper. I've never been so angry with a Villa team selection/raise the white flag exercise! GUTTED His support is rock bottom once more. Not due to the defeat but due to the inevitability of it when we drop all our star performers. It's like United turning up with Rooney, Berbatov, Nani & Vidic on the bench and wondering why they lost.

I voted yes by mistake, should have read it more carefully! So that's another NO then. GET RID! We aint a 8th-12th club like he has stated!

GH is now living on borrowed time. I was all for backing him but something has snapped. Too many incorrect decisions are being made. I have no doubt we'd have beaten Blues at home with a 4-4-2, the line up was farcical. The way he behaved on Monday was disgusting, a lot of people haven't got two half pennys to rub together at the moment yet multi-millionaire GH chooses to ignore them and the financial sacrifice they've made to worship at the kop end. DISGUSTING!

General you may be aware that talksport is a national radio station in this country. It is not just Villa fans solely who are raising concerns. The presenter on talksport has just had a phone in debate and said "Former European Champions, Aston Villa, shouldn't be treated like that. He has insulted Aston Villa." The presenter was refering to GH waxing lyrical about Liverpool when he is visiting as Aston Villa manager. I have NEVER, EVER before called for a Villa manager's head so soon after he has taken over but for once I'm gonna have to. Please feedback to Randy that GH is losing the fans rapidly and a lot of it of his own making, irrespective of results on the pitch!!!

Yes I'd love to know this too General, I can't wait for the North Stand redevelopment!!! Thanks & Merry Xmas!

This footage shows the flare coming in from outside the ground. It is from the away end car park so yeah it was Villa who threw it. Got to 3 mins 15 seconds.

thank you General

General why have you not responded to myself and a number of other posters pointing out that the club are the 4th "most decorated" club in this country? The site is factually wrong http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/HistoryHonours/ Chelsea are miles behind us and have never been champions of Europe. Spurs have won more fa cups, just 1 more than us, but we've won more leagues, league cups nd they've never been champions of Europe. Everton have won more leagues than us, just 2 more, but we've won more fa cups. We've won 5 league cups to their zero and they've never been champions of Europe. Trophy count VILLA: 20 EVERTON: 15 SPURS: 17 CHELSEA: 14

Oh c'mon any stat that only covers league results, not trophies or even the league trophy, plus places Man Utd in 4th place is clearly flawed! We're the FOURTH most successful club in this country by a country mile! Get it changed General ASAP, how the hell did the club get it wrong in the first place?

General why does the official club website say that we are the FIFTH most decorated club in English football history? Man United,Liverpool & Arsenal yes! But what over club deserves to rank above us?? None from what I can see. Only Everton have won more championships but trail miles behind in terms of FA, League Cup and European Cup success. Thank you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_clubs_in_England_by_major_honours_won

If Randy again isn't too fussed about sponsorship money why doesn't he just go with MITA COPIERS??? Just for retro purposes!

I spoke to a guy at the bus stop earlier. He was head to toe in villa kit and I do genuinely thgink he was telling the truth when he said he works in the warehouse at villa village. He helps out voluntary now apparently and originally started helping out there as some part of benefit/back to work programme. He told me "on the quiet" that Cadbury's were going to be our new sponsor. Anyway, seeing as I'd love this to be true, I was inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. He did see a bit simple tho to be fair. Anyway, seeing as it is now in American hands thru Kraft I didn't actually think Cadbury's being our sponsor was that far fetched. I suppose it would be a good marketing exercise for a Birmingham based company to sponsor a local Birmingham football club. HOWEVER, I think I'll have to dismiss it as total nonsense from this chap. Why??? Not long after he informed me MON is looking at bringing Juan Pablo Angel and Milan Baros back!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

Happy Birthday General, hope you are well.