terrytini

2 hours ago, TRO said:

Thanks, definately nothing to learn then.

Other than not to send your Crown Prince to Sarajevo

2 hours ago, John said:

But we didn't start it.....

Funny you mention that.

I had a long distance lockdown debate with my Son about that a few days ago. My argument was that we DID start it. “ ....I have to tell you no such undertaking was received and consequently this Country is at War with Germany.”

I say debate. He said “ what a ludicrous interpretation, as usual” and claimed he needed to go and cook his tea

1 hour ago, John said:

Season 1939-40 was abandoned after the third games were played, war was declared on the following day. 

“ Some jokers cancelled the Season lads, might aswell start a War !”

29 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said:

Oh crap, I'm useless

Sorry useless, i meant I'm stupid

Obv should have been I do NOT

Lol, I wouldn’t have blamed you though.....which was the better season, this one, or the last one ?

2 hours ago, DaveAV1 said:

If work, alcohol and love are all you’ve got left, you ain’t doing so bad 

I got made redundant, quit drinking and smoking years ago, and live with the missus.

So, a complete blank for me.

18 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said:

 

I do want to go down but if its out of our hands, then for me its a softer blow then playing it out and failing.

 

 

You are Steve Bruce and I claim my £5.

On 28/03/2020 at 15:19, terrytini said:

Not up to speed with this thread...I hadn’t really realised the PL was still being debated if I’m honest.

So without the benefit of whatever has been announced or debated I’d have to say Id be utterly amazed if anyone thinks football will reconvene this season. Not a chance in hell, ( in my opinion) and rightly so.

What possible reason could there be for even contemplating it ?

The Season is 100% over in my view, I can’t see a chance in a million that it’s not.

 

So, has anything changed in the last 26 days and 80 pages ?

Trump saying “ it might not come back , but even if we do ‘have embers’ it won’t be anything like what we’ve just been through, it will be smaller doses which we can contain. In my opinion (!!) it can never be anything like we’ve just gone through.”

When will his Party grow some balls and ditch this maniac ?

So glad I popped in this thread this morning I needed a good laugh.

4 hours ago, scarboro_villan said:

Clubs like Leicester & Newcastle have a certain aesthetic identity that, when the time comes, can instil enough supporter passion to enable them to win the league. 

If every Club had a slogan this would be right up there.

But black people were more likely to die anyway so what’s the big deal ? ( just following one of the alternative lines of logic).

1 hour ago, Stevo985 said:

 

It's like saying "well Aston Villa didn't need to spend £200m on a new defence in the summer as they only conceded 10 goals the following season"

If only .......

42 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said:

To be fair to him, Lewis Goodall at Newsnight has been quite good on this. But otherwise, yes, it's been bafflingly absent or downplayed in the media.

Yes you are right he has. There maybe have been a few others. But my God, I know we are all very different now than we were even a couple of weeks ago, but to have hundreds of the most needy and vulnerable dying every week, all but abandoned, and it not be headline news or the subject of detailed critical scrutiny is, as you say, baffling to say the least.

1 hour ago, It's Your Round said:

I wish it was that easy, my wife’s a deputy manager in a care home. Her best friend is the manager and she’s currently lodging with us due to a recent marriage break up. They’re the only ones keeping the place going, five staff have gone off sick and two left last week. They’re really up against it working long hours to cover shifts at the moment. Thankfully there’s been no cases there yet... it will be an absolute disaster if there was to be. 
 

The latest news today is that they’ve been contacted with details of how to request tests, there’s a local authority operation that will arrange them if they suspect anyone has symptoms. If that gets overwhelmed then there’s a national testing centre at Doncaster airport. That gives me some relief,  but I still hate the fact she has to spend the majority of her time there with next to no government support. 

Yes....I know it can’t be done in many cases it was just a desperate shout out to try and say how awful it is.

My wife’s in the same job as yours....and very similar circumstances. That’s one of the reasons I keep banging on about it because it is so much worse than anyone hears in the press. No staff,  no tests, no equipment, total dependence on their own initiatives

Mercifully my wife was told to stay home a couple of weeks back as she is in remission from cancer and has other health issue, they decided she shouldn’t go in. So I think I can say I’ve an idea how you feel.

I’ve watched for a month baffled at the failure of the press to get hold of the Care Home angle.

There has finally been some real attention given to it in recent days but they are still failing to properly report it.

It has been, is, and will continue to be, a complete catastrophe.

STILL no testing, no equipment, ill informed Managers, no meaningful direction  or strategy, ill informed ( and sick) staff, and thousands stuck in them waiting to die and join the thousands who already have.

All I can say is anyone who has a loved one in a Care Home get them out if you can.

25 minutes ago, PaulC said:

I try not to 

Hi.

I don’t want to prolong the back and forth on this but thought I ought to reply given your post indicates you are - struggling ? is that a fair description ? And I’m sorry to hear that. I hope you find ways that work for you of getting through this.

As regards posting stuff/ reading stuff/ information overload etc I’d say this though, in a sincere effort to be helpful and constructive.

For some, more information, more discussion, is better.

For some, more speculation, more debate, more theorising, is better.

And for some, it might be better to read and hear less, or even as little as possible.

But for those who come in that first category, a place where “ it all comes out” is essential else they have to bottle it up, or dump it on unwilling family or friends.

Id say that a thread on a debating Forum, dedicated to discussing the virus, was a suitable place for that.

For those that would prefer not to get too much information, maybe ignoring that thread, or reading just a Page or two every couple of days, would be better ? 

On the wider issue, I used to suffer with anxiety, and depression. I’m more than happy to correspond and pass on the things that worked for me if you felt it would be any use ..and in case you didn’t know it there is a very good mental health thread on here

All the best 

41 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

John Burn-Murdosch, reporter and analyst for the FT, continues to say that per capita deaths are an almost irrelevant measurement. 

 

He is very good on the stats, I’d recommend him to anyone who wants insight into the numbers.

2 hours ago, Stevo985 said:

This is terrifying  

I mean if this is true then I'm glad they went with the lockdown in the end. But the suggestion that they're doign things based on what the public wants is scary.

The public are idiots!

Made me laugh and I fully take the point.

However I’m very relieved that this is their view to the extent that they are not “ doing a Trump” and egging people on to return to work.

Of course one would hope (!?) that medical opinion would form the majority of their thinking  

19 minutes ago, PaulC said:

Yours maybe I prefer not to know. 

Don’t read it then

1 minute ago, PaulC said:

Don’t know why you read that stuff, it just makes people more anxious and worried. No good for ones mental health 

My mental health is fine mate - each to their own....I prefer as much factual information as I can get

17 minutes ago, PaulC said:

Never going to really know that except we know where the first outbreak occurred but they haven’t exactly found out how it got transmitted to humans. 

Do we ?

”Given that some China's earliest COVID-19 patients were connected to the Hunan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan, it is likely the seafood market played a role in amplifying the virus. However, there is not enough evidence to prove that is where the virus transmitted from animals to humans. There is also evidence emerging that among the first 41 patients hospitalized in China, 13 had no connection to this particular marketplace. The path of the pathogen is still unknown.”

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/14/834109166/where-did-the-coronavirus-originate-virus-hunters-find-genetic-clues-in-bats?t=1587327778835

From an article in Shortwave a couple of days ago.