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Or Juan Vargas. Or Ryad Boudebouz. Or Lewis Holtby. Or Maksym Bily. Or Dusan Tadic. Or Oussama Assaidi. Or Yassine El Ghanassy. Or Giorgi Merebashvili. Or Zlatko Junuzović. Or Valentin Stocker. Or Cristian Tanase. There's a whole damn world of options out there. But we have McLeish who doesn't seem to attract oversea players. Zigic Zarate Beausejour Hleb Martins Benitez Michel Jiranek My god there is some quality there to look forward to..............oh wait, hang on a minute. They are all shite!

Water off a ducks back. Couldn't give a monkies TBH. Some people are so blinded they don't even read what has been posted half the time! Ok Julie,I'm not having a dig at you personally but I'm bored of reading constant...this was just tweeted by such and such... For example everyone was pissing their pants when some so calked Villa insider claimed Moyes was a certain for the villa job and we all know what happened there! We now have Nzogbia stories and the truth is no one knows apart from the club,player and his agent. It is all just speculation yet someone tweets it some people take it as fact yet if it was in a daily rag it would be dismissed as bollocks. And that article you linked too,I won't apologise TS is not classed as a credible source on here and not a quote in sight just some journo's opinion. Do you know what? If you dont like it, dont read it. The first part of the thread title states........SPECULATION so if Julie has heard or seen something that might give us a clue then good on her. I love reading Julies, Gazton and The Trees posts and interpret them as I see fit. If you think that they are BS then fine, but dont slate people for being willing to dig and post information they come across.

I see Darren Bent has started to put the feelers out too. "Everyone wants to play in the Champions League" aka, "Come and get me!"

I think this is done and Whelan is just being a media whore. I am guessing here but we have probably made a 9m bid in our usual manner, discretely. Whelan decides that rather than advise Villa he wants 10 million by phone or fax, he will do his talking via Sky Sports. PF will probably give him a call and say, fine, heres your 10 milllion and we get to talk to NZogbia. The only irritant is that once again, Whelan has blabbed his gob off and the world knows how much we have spent. Apart from that, not much to see and I think this will go ahead.

5 years!! I think they had the contract written up for foster and just did a cut and paste for Givens name!!! A good keeper but thats a long contract for a 35 year old with a dicky shoulder.

.....what the ****? Cant really argue with that mate can you? The club was more stable under o'neill than I and MANY others can ever remember it being, with 3 consecutive finishes of 6th and really look like breaking the top 4 in 2 of them seasons. Yes I know some people think he spunked a load of cash, but all the blame cant land at his feet, there must have been somebody sanctioning the deals. And I cant really remember ANY villa fans moaning when we brought the likes of Sidwell, Beye, etc etc. At the time everyone seemed happy that we were building a squad that could push us on those extra couple of places. I can also remember people moaning how long the deals took to go through, and if I remember rightly this was also chalked down as MON fault also. Funny hey! And his point about us finishing in the top half at the moment is not far off in my opinion, where do you expect us to finish with how things stand at the moment? just cant see what point you were trying to make with that comment. To be honest, I dont know how "What the ****......" can be regarded as a comment??

So in the the "current climate" CNz is half the player JH is? Is JH worth £20m? No imo. however when looking at other deals this summer, including those of two of our very own left wingers, you would have to conclude that in the current climate CNz every inch a £10m player. We are flush with cash after said sales and desperate for a winger. forget what was offered in Jan, its supply and demand, we are desperate. DW knows this, and for the life of me cant understand why anyone is so shocked over his stance, we would, and have done exactly the same with our players the last couple of years. Players are worth whatever someone is prepared to pay for them. It doesnt matter who is half as good as who and Liverpool are spunking cash left right and centre so your point to me is a mute one. There are better players out there for that money and if we had an innovative manager who had fans support, we might just take a chance on them instead of playing it steady and buying only from the premiership. Jesus, this is just like ONeill but with worse players and we know where that ended up.

Have some cahoonas, call his bluff and walk away. This guys may be a 10 million pound player in the current climate, but he is not much more!

Indeed. Any information we get from SSN or the Birmingham mail has been made available to such sources because it's so out of date that the disclosure of such information would not affect the negotiations. I.e. Yes a bid probably was rejected, but that was probably some time ago and the club are probably (hopefully) in the process of negotiating with Wigan as we speak. No one in the media really knows what's going on. Considering Dave Whelans level of confidentiality, they probably know everything!

Our player of the year last year (imo at least) with two years on his contract goes for just above what we got for Ashley Young with 1 year left on his contract (who wasn't as good as Downing last year), they got a bargain Agreed. Thirded. English, International, Premier League experience, left footed and in his prime. Bargain at 20 million when you LOOK at what is being paid for the likes of Phil Jones and Jordan Henderson. Personally, I would have told him he was going nowhere and if he worked hard this season, we might sell for next. We would have still got IRO 15 million for him. Everyone elses players seem to be valued much higher than our own on this forum. How many times do you see: "He would cost XXX way out of our range" "He is only worth XXX, we got a good price" Crazy :shock:

Gutted, I had heard we were gonna play rush goalie next year!! Seems like thats not going to happen now!! :-)

N'Zogbia nearly done. Hes on par if not better than those two. IMO of course. This?? The deal is nearly done. :winkold: Oh, so the deal is not nearly done?? Which is it?

N'Zogbia nearly done. Hes on par if not better than those two. IMO of course. This?? The deal is nearly done. :winkold:

Not interested in NZogbia but its good to hear that the Ginger Ninja has been on the phone to let you know that the deal is nearly done Stu! I am hoping that Randy has signed off a 35 milllion triple swoop on Man City to pick up James Milner, Adam Johnson and Shay Given. That might tempt me out of this melancholy attitude to all things AV.

Stu you genuinely life in your own little world of optimism. I have no doubt that we will spend some money, but I think it will be no where near 40 million. Two prima donna wingers?? Thats what you call the former creative hub of our team, England internations in their prime. Seriously??

I think that there will be an extra 5 mill tagged on for good measure now that the transfer window dealings are moving in earnest. He was going to blues for what, 10 mil?? Lets see what he goes for in this window

You've dodged pretty much everything, going off on one, taking the convo onto other irrelevant things. I very much doubt that and as I said before the Downing to Liverpool story was EVERYWHERE weeks ago. So much for ITK. :winkold: The player agreed terms, do you mean? Mate have you even read this forum before?? You have come on here badmouthing people who actually are just either putting an opinion across or drawing logical conclusions based on what is out there either on twitter or in the media. You, as far as I can see have caught this bad habit of just commenting on other posters instead of contributing anything of value yourself.

This shouldnt get lost in the wave of other posts. If we had anything about us, we could have agreed the price but asked Liverplop not to disclose it until we brought in a replacement, probably NZogbia. Now Dave Whelan knows what we have in the kitty, he is in a position to play hardball!! Prettty shit and amateur planning full stop!!!! :x

I dont see that as a rant Harry, a pretty truthful assessment of our current predicament. I said we had raised the white flag on competing for the top four with the appointment of McLeish, what did we expect the more ambitious of our players to do??? I think Randy will recognise what he has done when season ticket sales and gate attendances drop, plus shirt and merchandise sales fall. We are not in a good place.

So "we wont accept anything less than 20m" then? Tbf it's a great price for a player of his ability. Milner - Bought for 12m, sold for 26m Young - Bought for 9.65m, sold for 18m Downing - Bought for 12m, sold for 18.5m Not bad business really, all things considered. of course its bad business. because we havent replaced any of them with better players and have thus gone backwards in what world could that be considered good business ? not that we've agreed to sell Downing for 18.5m of course It's good in a purely business sense. Three players wanted to go, and we got good prices for them. Never forget that people laughed at the time for the fees we paid for all three. Thats crazy, if Downing goes we will have sold three England internationals!! How in any warped sense can that be good????? Having players on the pitch is what wins things, no prizes for cash in the bank. Sometimes I am amazed!!!! :shock:

If you were commenting on ONE post from ONE poster then why put 'fans' ? Plural? Because although I referenced the post above, I stated in my response above that there are more than one post of that ilk on here. Do you have anything else to do but pick apart semantics?

Gutted if this is true. Cant believe Villa and its fans give up that easily. Just see Darren Bent sat in the changing room now saying WTF?? In fairness, what can we the fans do about this? Maybe fans could protest about the proposed sale, that kind of stuff tends to work...! Or maybe I was just commenting on the "Good Riddance I say" in the post I actually quoted?? Did you read that bit or do you open your mouth only to change feet? There are a number of such posts on here which I find hard to fathom considering he was last years player of the year.

Gutted if this is true. Cant believe Villa and its fans give up that easily. Just see Darren Bent sat in the changing room now saying WTF??

And Downing is a decent player but by your own admission........ I agree we were not great last season which is probably why Downings head was turned so easy. That post was about Scott Parker, who was playing for a team who were relegated by some distance playing some of the worst football I have ever seen. Downing played in a team who actually at times played some enterprising football, trouble was, we forgot how to defend. Not the same in my opinion.

Yes of course, my apologies for interrupting you holding court with an alternate argument.