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3 minutes ago, villalad21 said:

Think you're wrong about Luiz.

Clubs will gladly be willing to pay up for his supposedly 25 mill buy back clause.

Midfielders like him is a very rare breed and extremely valuable for any team. There will be no shortage of takers.

That's why I said IF he stays.............

42 minutes ago, villalad21 said:

We will be without Tammy and Jack this time.

We got no prolific goal scorers up front. Next to no creativity in midfield. Our wingers are shocking.

I can see this team finishing around 9th if we fail once again in the recruitment. And remember there will be next to no pre season. New season will start almost straight away.

And remember Purslow is against loans. Unless there is a buy back clause.

I dont think anyone can predict anything until we know what team we have, the Jack replacement in the championship is already at Villa if he stays and thats Luiz - He has been great in the holding role but he is much more than that. I personally would only say Jack, Trez and Mings are certain to go the others could easily go either way

1 hour ago, sparrow1988 said:

Proven in the Championship means nothing. Ross McCormack was proven at Championship level. We all know how that signing ended up - with our current club captain crashing his Land Rover 4 years later after a house party during a pandemic enforced lockdown when Ross hadn't played for the club for about 3 years.

Having said that I think Gayle would be a decent signing as he offers something different, he's quick and strong, works hard for the team and has a nose for goal, but I'm not going to entertain this notion of proven Championship quality because there are too many external factors which influence a players performance.

In any case we're going to win the last two games and stay up so I hope we're aiming higher than Gayle.

Agree, has to be a player bought based on the system you plan to play

Heart says 2-1 Villa...............head says 1-1

1 hour ago, wilko154 said:

If's and But's 

Another huge week coming up, just hoping that some results go our way!

 

Watford to draw to West Ham 

Bournemouth to lose to Man City

Aston Villa to beat Everton

 

16 - West Ham - 35 points

17 - Watford - 35 points

18 - Aston Villa - 33 points

19 - Bournemouth - 31 points

Does that set of results bring Brighton back in if they lose Thursday ? Would be on 36

I think this is a must win and results dependent Arsenal becomes the most not lose, we have to put the pressure on ahead of the Friday night game and hope city thump Bournemouth. Watching Everton v Wolves they are definitely there for the taking and looking like Mina and maybe Holgate could be out at the back we have to go for it.

19 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said:

apologies, read it wrong!

No worries I was basically just summarizing how we could get to a last day jobbie - Once you get to that anything can happen!

Can Baggio play Sunday?

22 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said:

Different strokes and all, but I can't agree with this. I actually went to matches in the Championship, and we won quite a large proportion of them. I had a better time over those three years than I have done at any other point in the last 10.

Agree, if it happens then it happens and i would be confident that we could bounce back and I know we will win games/compete

Watford

Newcastle D

West Ham L/D

City L

Arsenal L

Bournemouth

Leicester L

City L

Southampton D

Everton D

Leaves us 6 points to find.....7 If West Ham/Watford is a draw

I just cant see it - Desperately need Norwich/Newcastle results tomorrow

In my head (Written on my work pad version 251 of how we stay up) this week I actually had Watford to win, Bournemouth draw and Villa defeat this week which when I was doing them I thought leaves us in a horrible position of being 4 points off with the potential to go 7 points on Saturday lunch time which I think would be curtains regardless of any result we get. However trying to stay positive I still think it may look a bit like this

Watford

Newcastle D

West Ham L

City L

Bournemouth

Leicester L

City L

Southampton D

Im ruling West Ham out as think they will beat Norwich tomorrow, and so the above would leave us needing 4 point minimum to take things into a showdown with West Ham who hopefully would be on the beach.....seems do able? The problem it it just doesn't at the moment, we look so empty of ideas, effort and quality I struggle to believe we will score a goal let alone get points but trying to be positive for me we have to look back and think about where our best performances have been think that means a potential 343 again. I would personally like to see this Sunday....

                             Reina

                Konsa Mings Hause

Guilbert       Luiz     Hourihnne     Taylor (Target if fit)

El Ghazi             Sammatta         Grealish

For what its worth I have us down for 

Palace W

Everton D

Arsenal L

Got to keep that little bit of hope!

Not that im ever right on these things but i can really see.....

Watford - Newcastle (D) City (L) West Ham (L) Arsenal (L)

Villa - United (L) Palace (W) Everton (D) Arsenal (L) and then needing to win at West Ham

That Watford v Newcastle game is the big one....Ive always loved you Stevie and if I ever did say you were a potato head I always did mean a La Bonnotte

Good news is sounds like Brucey is going to rest a load tomorrow at City and target Saturdays game for points

We can debate all the other results as much as we want the facts are that set of players of ours needs to now stand up and go and win a game on Thursday night. A win in my opinion will completely knock the stuffing out of Watford as they will expect to go into the weekend with a 4 point gap

1 hour ago, villalad21 said:

I'll be watching Norwich - Watford like it's a Villa game.

This!!

I woke up this morning and I was already thinking about the game as if Villa were playing. Even if Norwich can get a draw it will mean one of their better games to go.

Looking at Everton (Awful last night), Palace (inconsistent), West Ham (If already safe) Arsenal (In form but play in the cup semi on the Saturday night before and may have little to play for) we cant argue we haven't got an opportunity to stay up we just need to get out of this Norwich/Watford game week with the game growing by no more than a point

My view is (and may be unpopular) that the left midfield position suits him better and is where we should be playing him in the prem. It just feels when he is playing centrally he doesn't get the ball in as many dangerous positions and so the opposition can either swarm him or foul him - Giving away a free kick which is 40 yards central to goal is quite difficult to do much with where as out wide you have a better angle to get the ball into the box. I would go with connor in the more advanced central role, yes granted he may let the game drift by but that space created by Grealish does give him opportunities to shoot and he also has a great free kick on him and while we are lacking goals he has to in my opinion be a starter.

2 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

If we play like we did yesterday until the end of the season I genuinely think we could force 9 - 10 points.

5 massive cup finals!

Its just the goals for me, we do look more solid but we need to score at least two to win games and it looks so unlikely currently

I think having watched the game yesterday Jack has to go back out wide and Hourihanne needs to come in the centre of the park. We just dont look like scoring and what ever people think about connor he can produce goals and assists especially from free kicks and for me that is worth a place above one of the 2 wingers (I would edge towards keeping El Ghazi in)

This week is huge, 2 Watford wins and a united defeat for us could mean we are 7 behind by the time we play palace so vital that they dont get more than 3 points from them 2 games

I still think we will end up going to West Ham a point or 2 behind needing to win and hopeing for an Arsenal win

Just looking at a couple of others as examples of people who have escaped

Sunderland 2014 - Last 6 games they had Chelsea/Man United/Man City away and took 7 points

Wigan 2011-12 - Won at Arsenal/Liverpool and beat United in last 9 games

Its been done but you cant write off thees games as to hard, you have to get something 

As a few have said its down to us, we need to forget who everybody else is playing as if we don't win games then we don't stay up regardless....

My guess is we will need 10 points to stay up which means unless we take anything over Liverpool and Man United we will need 10 from 12 which I think is just to big an ask

On 30/06/2020 at 11:52, jim said:

We are in free fall with two points from the last 24 and no signs of it getting any better.

The only thing that's embarrassing is the way we are playing and going down with a whimper.

Bottom 5 have earnt 3 points since the restart and we got 2 of them - We are all just as bad as each other !

6 games to go and 4 pretty awful teams, there really inst a fat lot between any of them and I think it will come down to a mistake/moment of magic for one of them teams to step out and win a couple of games - You only have to look at the points gained between us since restart, 3 and we have got 2 of them!

I look at our squad and one thing that has improved is the back line and Luiz, we are not conceding as many chances/goals and so at least we are getting a bit of a base to build on - It just needs someone to step out now and be that hero (Jack?)

Will be interesting to see where we are after this weekend as I think if we can just hang in touch to that last 4 games I think there will be opportunities to get some points

Maybe im daft but I still think we can do it -  Keep the faith !

4 minutes ago, nick76 said:

5 pages already....this is a joke of a thread.  We are still in the PL on level points to be safe with a fifth of the season to go and Villa fans are doing this.  
 

Just an embarrassment to the club!

Totally agree, there is still a number of twists in this season, we are no worse than the others down the bottom - Its who can find a couple of results

Only little advantage is they play City Thursday night, they will absolutely not want to lose this game and will play as strong a team as possible with it being their first as champions with the whole guard of honor etc and will put everything in.

Added to that City will be also wanting to show them they mean business their is the potential for some fatigue/knocks which may lead to changes on Sunday and maybe some complacency.

For them reasons im going to be positive and predict we will only lose 4-0