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3 hours ago, tonitottakai said:

Way too much. £0,5m, Onomah and a bag of carrots.

So they are throwing in a day's grub for Onomah as well?

2 hours ago, mjmooney said:

We're doing this in the right order: buy first, sell second. I expect a totally quiet deadline day this year, and glad of it. 

Me too, I'll be delighted if come deadline day I'm barely paying attention to what's going on, let alone stabbing the F5 key.

1 minute ago, supermon said:

Transfermarkt says he only just signed for Reims on 1st July 2019

Yeah, not good. We'd get reimed on the price now.

5 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Saw someone else say this and i think it's a great idea

I mentioned it and was going to ask @Superbees what he thought.He referred to him as "silky" and I thought the same from the highlights. He's not a big CH but would be a decent sized DM and looks to have the skills, speed and physique to do a great destroyer-feeder job.

1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Is it wrong that i've also been hoping he would piss off?

Nothing against him personally but I always view him as a liability.

Obviously I'd say it isn't wrong. There have been far too many times when I have audibly groaned merely at the sight of his name on the team sheet. Ditto, nothing personal, I wanted him to be a top player for us - or at least the best he could be - but he really never was. He sometimes contributed - for example, IIRC for McGinn's goal at Wembley he pushed a nice, rapid pass out wide enabling the cross to go in - and got some vital tackles in sometimes.

But, and it is a huge but, far too many attacks stuttered when he was involved and too many dangers came down his side.

3 minutes ago, villaglint said:

Also potentially says we could sell Taylor for a few million and then have Hause as back up LB and CB

A move I'd welcome. Taylor isn't a PL footballer in any position, even as back up. He got better last year but for most of the time he's been here he has been a weak link, straying into downright liability territory at times and that was in the Championship.

2 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

He presumably only gets that reputation because he's soft spoken and polite. That goes a long way for a lot of people when it comes to people in positions of power.

It's a very good point. He's absolutely nailed the skill of being the faux-humble victim, that stupid but faithful golden retriever act whilst weaving in a nice bit of passive aggression. The word removed.

12 hours ago, sne said:

Those away kits  

That's the kind of kit some shit, amateurish, no-hope, forever-ply-their-trade-in-the-lower divisions club from some crappy area like yam yam land would wear.

Oh, wait, WBA are some shit...

Will be brought off on the hour, applauding all sides of the ground in a tearful goodbye.

51 minutes ago, thunderball said:

This has been the case for a while. Plenty of Twitter commentators saying we are still in the mix, here is one just now....

May prompt us into action?

We are likely using Utd to flush out the rabbit on this. If we want him, we'll get him and at a lower price than if we'd been the first - and therefore probably only - team to talk to Brentford.

"Trezeguet"?

31 minutes ago, rodders0223 said:

Ball playing centre half, look forward to 4 years of people saying he should be playing DM.

TBH, when I looked at that YouTube highlight reel I did find myself wondering if Dean has DM in mind for him.

3 hours ago, mjmooney said:

NOOOOOO!!! Always a disaster for Villa players. 

Indeed. I'd be more than happy if we never had another player on international duty ever again. I couldn't give a **** about international football, I almost never watch it. They may want it but I don't want our best players attracting covetous eyes through anything but performances for us and if The Fates decide they are to suffer an injury, I don't want it in a friendly with the Faroe Isles.

They can get injured in the 94th minute of a Champions League Final when a Barca, Madrid, Bayern or Ajax player hacks them down in frustrated, humiliated rage at them scoring the seventh goal without reply with a scorpion kick from 25 yards out.

1 hour ago, ferguson1 said:

I actually love him!   

Classic shot.

Tyrone.

In new kit.

Mind The Gap

All in one frame.  I spy a screensaver/wallpaper.

6 hours ago, abdomlahor said:

of course every team wants to maximise their profit. it's just that for me there's too much risk paying that for him, but i do understand why we did. i just think we could have leveraged the fact he wanted to come here and stuck it out until the end of the window to force their hand on it a little bit more.

If by risk you are referring to past medical issues, I'm not convinced the risk is unacceptably high at all and obviously neither do the club. He's shown both clubs he can handle  a half season of blood and thunder Championship battles and emerge as being demonstrably one of the best - if not the best - in that division. I also think it's very unlikely he won't get a thorough medical before we (over) pay for him and he'll be insured against a career-ender to protect our investment.

If by risk you mean we don't know if he is Premier League class, that's true but we haven't bought anyone that we know is. But probably will be. In fact, we've just paid even more for a player we don't even know if he'll suit the English game in any division. But also probably will. The only way we will get "sure things" is buying Prem players off Prem clubs and they don't come anything but "over-priced".

I'm also of the mind the leverage you talk about pivots the wrong way. The common knowledge that he wants to come here and we want him doesn't lower his price in their minds, even if the transfer doesn't happen unless they need to sell him and we don't know if they do. They are obviously willing but no sale isn't going to harm them, they could just loan him out again for a fee and get someone else paying his wages and maybe increase his value even more.

No, we had a weak hand, unfortunately, but at other times we won't. And as someone said, above, maybe Bournemouth will feel the sting of the slap of the strong hand sometime in the future.

3 hours ago, Zatman said:

Wasnt that other Pako they struggled when left. 

Yes, it was Pako Ayestaran who was Rafa's wingman.

This one did indeed work with Benitez too but, happily, over the last few years, seems to be only good at getting appointed and then being fired after mere months for doing a shite job.

7 hours ago, MaVilla said:

he's got 12 months left on his contract, literally zero point to loaning him out.

Doubtless they will look at him in pre-season but I think it's equally doubtless they'll come to the conclusion there is literally zero point in having him around.

They won't offer him another contract at the end of this one and they won't ever play him but will have to pay him. The only reason he'll be around this season is if they can't farm him out somewhere.

1 hour ago, Johnnyp said:

Why am i a bit...meh,  about this. I've seen him play a fair bit. Am i missing something ? I'd have Gueye back in a hearbeat if Everton were selling.

I'm in the same boat. Maybe he is terrific but I've seen little of him since I only watch Villa games and only really seem to remember him as being a bit of a word removed - with a shit haircut - who fouled Grealish a lot.

But there are plenty here who watch more non-Villa games than me who are bigging him up and if the staff want him here, that's good enough to go for him. However, I'm sure they'll have their walk-away figure too so it's all down to whether Leeds have exceeded that and clearly won't move on it.

And like you, I'd rather have Gana back but don't see that happening.

1 hour ago, abdomlahor said:

£15m. Yes, I would ask for more because I want to make as much profit as possible. Not because I believe he's worth it, but because I want lots of money to buy more players with. 

And if you exchange your "I" for "Bournemouth", you perfectly illustrate the point he is making, simultaneously agree with it and are some way to understanding what has happened over the last few weeks.

25 minutes ago, praisedmambo said:

Oh sure he's legit then. Unlike the abundant people who do that on twitter 20/30 times a day. Not just for Villa mind.

There should be a list of ITK tropes. This would be pretty early on/high up it's so common. 

14 minutes ago, pete101 said:

53 minutes ago, privateer said:

He isn't saying that exactly. He says, according to what is posted above, that he isn't ITK about anything else other than what he has been told about Cahill. Could still be he's talking crap but he is setting the parameters of his apparent knowledge as restricted to one player and one deal.

  23 minutes ago, praisedmambo said:

Oh sure he's legit then. Unlike the abundant people who do that on twitter 20/30 times a day. Not just for Villa mind.

There should be a list of ITK tropes. This would be pretty early on/high up it's so common. 

  

But fortunately reading and comprehension isn't dead everywhere. 

1 hour ago, Kiwivillan said:

Not itk but then says knows someone with inside knowledge which is itk. What a load of bollocks 

He isn't saying that exactly. He says, according to what is posted above, that he isn't ITK about anything else other than what he has been told about Cahill. Could still be he's talking crap but he is setting the parameters of his apparent knowledge as restricted to one player and one deal.

1 hour ago, PieFacE said:

 

Suspicious

Keep an eye on Brentford? They are buying Hogan back then.

14 minutes ago, LondonLax said:

His girlfriend had just had a miscarriage but there is a bit of stigma around that unfortunately so he said his grandmother had died instead.  

Stigma how and projected by whom? It's not the **** 16th century and neither did she have a parturitive mishap in a Dothraki tent and pass a stillborn scaly winged beast.

The only stigma around a miscarriage I'm aware of is of miscarriages that are induced in clinics.