jasthevillan

Hi General, a disappointing result for us today but we are going in the right direction nevertheless. I have just seen that there is futher debate on safe standing with the Football Supporters Federation stating that they would like to pilot it at a big Premiership football club. Everton have thrown their hat into the ring but given the desire of so many Villa fans for safe standing do you think that we would be able to do the same given that our stadium is more modern and would be better suited to testing for modern stadia. This would surely confirm our status even further as a club that does actually listen to it's supporters.

I watched a lot of PNE at university and Nugent is probably better than both of them at taking a chance, Gabby and Luke rely on pace more but that is becoming increasingly important in the game. So he will take 6 months longer than Ashton and Bent to get to the big league, big deal. As I said Cahill took 7 years and I don't see what position has to do with it, it still took 7 years for someone to take a punt on him. It ain't about how long it takes you to get somewhere it is about what you do when you get there, if you saw Nugent against Saints on Monday and how he took his goal I'm confident that he will be a success in the Premier, he is a clever player.

Some good shouts although Richard is well over priced and over hyped IMO. MO'N wont just stick to the UK I'm sure there are some players who he saw in Europe when managing Celtic who he thought he would have loved to buy if he had the money. He now does and I think Carew was the first one of these signings, better value for money on the continent too.

Not so sure about more stuff for God, he knows we love him and he should be pretty well off with book sales and media work etc. Would be a bit daft to do something for him again when some others have given their all for Villa as well and got bugger all back in days when the maximum wage was around etc. Can you honour God again with a testimonial etc. when there is someone like Jimmy Dugdale with his legs amputated?

Wrong again, Crewe have been up and down between the Championship and League 1 for ages and Ashton spent at least one season playing in league 1, Well you certainly have "enough time" on your hands to answer my posts in vain :roll: But he still never spent more time than them in the league than either of them and if we are being pedantic Nugent played for Bury in League 2 which is lower than League 1. Like how you only choose to answer certain questions so I wont write my questions from my previous post again as it is a waste of time with you.

Incidently CyberVillan, when did I say that Nugent was better than Gabby or Luke? I can't remember but seeing that you have more time than me can you check and let me know.

No he never spent more time than Bent and Ashton playing in the league as Bury weren't in the Championship. Check your facts son. What have I been found out as? Please tell?

Nope, because no team has felt the need to push the boat out to get him like they did with Darren Bent and Dean Ashton, i wonder why?. Do you know for how many years Ashton and Bent were playing regular for Crewe and Ipswich respectively? Longer than Nugent has been at PNE. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Especially for you mate seeing that all your posts have at least one :roll: ! Erm both Ashton and Bent were 16 when they made their debuts for their teams, Nugent was playing for Bury (who were two leagues lower) when he was 16 and moved to Preston in January 2005, so he's pretty much had 3 seasons with them and around 5 seasons of league football overall but yet still nobody from the premiership has taken a chance, Darren had four years at Ipswich before he left and Ashton had just about had 4 and a half years, but nice try though!!, man you're desperate to prove me wrong. A joker. Jan 05 to March 07 and he was heavily linked in Jan 07 so he could easily have gone after 2 years but PNE weren't willing sellers because of what the Premiership would be worth to them. Bury to PNE at the top-middle of the Championship is a big step and he succeeded, he is playing for U21s and has succeeded, that is a pretty good progression. Last time I checked 2 years 2 months was closer to 2 years that 3 years nice try though! If you can't do a good argument why reply as if you have won it hands down? Do you rate Tim Cahill? He spent nearly 7 seasons at Millwall and was around 25 when someone took a chance on him. Hindsight is a great thing but Nugent will be a big success in the top flight.

Yeah that would be really special ina full house against Sheffield United. Imagine the Holte jumping with scarfs swinging round heads!

Rumour that Reo Coker may be on his way for £3m, not bad for the money but it will be at twice that.

Nope, because no team has felt the need to push the boat out to get him like they did with Darren Bent and Dean Ashton, i wonder why?. Do you know for how many years Ashton and Bent were playing regular for Crewe and Ipswich respectively? Longer than Nugent has been at PNE. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Especially for you mate seeing that all your posts have at least one :roll: !

If Darren Bent is a veteran then John Carew is a fossil!

3 of the top four grounds? That means nothing, you could also change it to say he has scored 3 elsewhere in a whole season. Keep giving posters the sarcastic faces it really helps to prove your arguments have more holes than an old sock.

People with bad credit have it for a reason we don't want the ground half full by mid season because people with bad credit have been unable to fulfil their payments.

Because the u21 managers have been nobs , and Walcott seem to be the speedy one they chose to play up front with Nugent being the more physical striker, but i think it's obvious that Gabby in the long run is the better player.

Currently on loan at Burnley with DJx2 at the bottom of the Championship he is that good! If we signed him I would be as disappointed as when the Ice Cream man Cascarino replaced Rambo McInally.

Petrov is in his first season so i'd be inclined to at least wait until next season before judging him, Veron might not have set the world on fire in England but he did win the title with Manure if i remember right!!, he had his moments that can't be denied and i'd love a player of his quality at Villa, and you're wrong regarding the four players i mentioned, Toure is like Diop in build, Muntari is also 6 foot and strong, and as you've said Appiah is a power house, only Mokoan out of the four isn't that big but he's still better than Sidwell, your worries regarding Tevez "creating divisions" doesn't really hold weight imo, Carew is said to be on good money and at the end of the day if we want to compete with the best we have to pay the going rate, if anyone in the villa squad doesn't agree with that they can put in a transfer request for all i care. Despite Veron not because of him, did Djemba Djemba not win the league title a few times too? And what about Phil Neville he won about half a dozen. I wasn't referring to Muntari etc. with regards to being small but Bremner, Giles, Keane and Souness. Tevez has a lot of promise but it is early for him yet and he will be off to Spain I suspect and be a good player but in English football the stats say he scored 1 goal in 1200 minutes so far and was relegated, you can put your house on that. He is another one of these players who is said to be the next Maradona like so many before him but the one that will hit the heights is Messi.

Agreed Ant, there is a befief amongst outsiders who don't do their homework that Randy is here for another motive,frankly they are irrelevant and our owner has chosen to be judged on his actions as opposed to talk.

You're talking complete rubbish, "big" doesn't exactly have to be in height it can be in strength and build, Sidwell looks not much bigger than Davis to me, and it just proves what your ambitions are for the club if you would have wanted to sign the likes of "Bullard" :roll: , and excuse me but did you see Henry and Bergkamp when they first arrived in the premiership?, i think they've proved that form isn't everything and class is perminant, for years we've been signing average players like Mccann and imo Sidwell falls into that bracket, it's time we sign some proven star names who has performed at a high level, we've got Carew and we can get more, don't be scared of change, if you really think Sidwell is better than the likes of Appiah, Toure, Mokoan and Muntari then i'd question if you've ever seen these players play. So you must think that Petrov will be a big success at Villa because form is temporary and class is permanent. Heres one for you, a quality Argentinian playmaker who was seen as one of the world's best players and went to the best team in the country, Juan Sebastian Veron, he had more experience regarded just as highly but couldn't hack it and not many Argies have. If you can't settle in the league you are no good to us. None of those four players was huge in build and neither are some of the best DMCs of today in Makelele and Fabregas. I agree the likes of Appiah are good players but you don't need to be a big name to be a good player or part of a good team. My ambitions for Aston Villa are massive but you must expect it to take a bit of time to be able to compete for the players we want in terms of success and maybe even salary because we don't want to create divisions in the squad like Tevez' beloved Wet Spam.

Erm i think the fact that Tevez is proven at international level and is a big name in the game has something to do with it :roll: , it's not a "contradiction" at all, and if you wanna talk about "top 8 side" Wigan were in the top 8 for ages last season and got the League cup final so should we sign Lee Mccoulgh now?, if you knew anything about Yaya Toure you'd know he's desperate to play in the same league as his brother (the premiership) and his team Monaco haven't done very well this season, he's been their one bit of quality and i'd be confident we could get him, Yes but that doesn't mean they are right does it? :roll:, imo he's an average player who won't take us to another level, our team is short enough as is it and imo we need someone big and imposing in the middle of the park who can get up and down the pitch and can both defend and create chances, Sidwell isn't even on Boateng's level imo. Absolute tosh mate! Most of the best central midfielders in this country over the past 40 years have been Bily Bremner, Johnny Giles, Graeme Souness and Roy Keane none of them are particularly big. Tevez can be whatever he wants internationally but this is club football, 1200minutes and 1 goal from a set piece. With regards Wigan last season there is a player I would have signed and his absence from the team is partly responsible for their fall from grace, that man is Jimmy Bullard, not the biggest name like Sidwell but big names don't necessarily win you anything you have to earn it.

Will there be a draw for a season ticket holder to receive a squad no. for next season?

Actually alot of people on here have been after Sidwell for the middle of the park from at least the start of this season, he looks a lot closer to Vieira than Tevez looks to Zola at the minute.

Two of Barton, Nolan and Sidwell would do me, especially the latter all 3 are better passers than McCann and could work well in a 3 with Petrov and bringing the best out of him or even Davis.

Yeah ok Robbie Keane is a load of rubbish, whatever you say. Would rather have Defoe mind.

Erm... What are you erm..ing about?????? Giles Barnes is 18 or something, clearly there is a big difference you should have noticed. I think he is erm..ing about you saying why buy Kamara and Gera when they are both at a Championship club and then saying that Giles Barnes who plays in the same division as them would be an awesome signing, a wee bit contradictory I would say.