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Summary from beeb

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https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-63309400

 

Not optimistic but UTV. I always want us to win.

27 minutes ago, Panto_Villan said:

I apparently made the mistake of not reading the news this afternoon. This thread has got about 30 pages longer. Can someone summarise to me what's happened?

Just now, ender4 said:

If we lose 3-0 tomorrow we are in the relegation zone.

I genuinely wonder if there is a clause in Gerrards contract about being in the relegation zone after X matches = less compo. It woudl explain some things.

Brilliant.

 

Its Poch or Tuchel then. Good news! Seriously i would also be delighted with Emery. I would be very underwhelmed with Frank.

29 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said:

Smith and Gerrard aren’t the only football  related appointments by Purslow, just as important are the sporting directors. Purslow’s picks so far are Suso and Lange. Have they been successful, has recruitment gone well and what is the current transfer policy exactly?

Good questions. My answers 

"Have they been successful?"
Overall yes I think so. I regard his first priority to keep us in the premier league. We are in the premier league and while our trajectory has not always been upward Purslow has acted when he believed that we were not making sufficient progress. He would likely argue thats why he sacked Suso and Smith and will presumably sack Gerrard and Lange if he feels they are not making sufficient progress either.

"has recruitment gone well"
For players its an unqualified yes for me. I like our players and I believe (and have seen) these players consistently perform far better under different coaches. I think we are very fortunate to have such an excellent squad I couldnt name you a player I would worry when I saw his name on the team sheet. The entire squad is very good. They have simply been mismanaged.

"what is the current transfer policy exactly"

I think its changed. Before Jack left it was to value buy with good sell on potential. value buy because FFP limited our ability to spend big everywhere. and we had a full squad to relace. After the Jack windfall they changed to immediately improving the squad with higher quality or more expensive players. I think Gerrard helped them buy materially adding to bringing in our summer signings and Phil. Everyone is unlucky that our other two star signings got long term injuries but Coutinho is injury free. I expect him and a lot of other players to flourish under the next (presumably better)  coaching setup.

Anyway thats what I think. Just my impression listening to Purslow and seeing his actions over the years

7 minutes ago, ozvillafan said:

If Purslow is so good - why did Liverpool let him go?

 

according to Wikipedia it was basically "job done"

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Purslow was appointed managing director of Liverpool Football Club in June 2009, with a priority to renegotiate the £350m loan the club had outstanding with RBS and to assume overall management of the club until a new permanent CEO could be appointed.^[5][6] Three months into his tenure, a team headed by Purslow negotiated an £80 million 4-year shirt sponsorship deal with Standard Chartered Bank.^[7]

On 6 October 2010, Purslow voted in favour of the sale of the club from the unpopular then-owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett to the NESV group. In response to this, Hicks tried to block the sale by removing Purslow and Ian Ayre from the board and installing his son, Mack, and his business associate Lori McCutcheon to the board. On 13 October 2010, at a hearing in the High Court in London, Mr Justice Floyd held that Hicks’ actions were unlawful and in breach of the agreement he had signed with RBS.^[8] Floyd's judgment allowed the sale to proceed and, on 15 October 2010, NESV finally completed its £300m takeover of Liverpool in a deal which drastically reduced the club's debt to RBS.^[9]

Having completed his brief by finding a buyer, Purslow stepped down on 20 October 2010 after NESV assumed control of the club.^[10] He remained as a non-executive director and special adviser until February 2011.^[11]

Following the sale, Hicks and Gillett pursued legal action, however, a settlement was reached in January 2013 with Hicks and Gillett withdrawing all allegations made against Purslow and fellow directors Broughton and Ayre.^[12]

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The shares were allotted Sept 21st 2022. 5 days after the 1-0 win against Southampton.

I have no conclusion, just noting the date.

Speaking of accents I really came to dislike Lambert as manager but it always bothered me when his accent was attacked. Just not cool to mock the way someone talks, there is plenty to criticise on the pitch.

Bloody hell, dragging it out for another game then? Unless there is a contract clause we pay less compo if we are past 10 games and in the relegation zone then Purslow is really messing this up royally. Just get the inevitable done and get in an interim manager. 

Tommy Jordan can go with Gerrard as far as I am concerned.

1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

I'm really wondering if they held back in the summer due to having one eye on the " future"

Could be. The tap was definitely turned OFF after our first game maybe it became clear Gerrard didnt actually know how to use the top players that had been bought for him. 

In this matter I have decided to suspend my traditional scepticism of what the Telegraph writes and instead I choose to believe its true. All of it.


 

First good thing I have read today.

Poch, you know you want to!

 

he is still here? wtf??

9 hours ago, trillvillan said:

The more and more times I think about who we should hire next that's realistic - I keep falling back to Unai Emery. 

 

I really think he would get us in Europe and compete. 

I would be happy with that. He has a 55% win rate in the premier league over 18 months. Thats good enough for me.

I didnt bother watching the game. Not gonna get up early to watch Gerrard ruining our players and taking us into relegation.

Grateful to other fans who have posted how it went. Thanks for taking the time to share.

 

I just want to enjoy watching Villa again. Gerrard hasnt worked, its done. The experiment is over.

2 minutes ago, AvonVillain said:

What an odd way to put a stat. So in other words, this is Villa's second worse start to a PL season.

That was our relegation season is why its put that way. In other words this is our worst PL start since the last time we were relegated.

3 minutes ago, david-avfc said:

I know it's the way it is nowadays with these foreign owners across the Premier League, but something just does not sit with me with owners who never turn up to the games. I can't believe that are genuinely into the sporting project when they attend maybe once or twice a season, I just don't buy it. I'm not niaive I know they are here for a financial reason but you'd like to think they would show more passion for it

Even if there is no passion, nobody is rich enough to ignore an investment losing value that you have invested hundreds of millions into.

I simply cannot believe the owners think the spectacle of Gerrard taking millions of their money and burning it in front of their eyes every month is acceptable.  

Do your job Purslow. Your gerrard experiment was a failure , fix it now.

How is this farce still happening? Just give him his pay off thats all he is waiting for. No more gambles on vanity projects. These players deserve a premier league level manager,