honest_bertie

One thing we seen to be neglecting is what Jack himself wants out of this. Obviously we all want him at Villa and It would be really disappointing to see him leave now as he seems to be coming of age and showing signs of his real talent... but what if he has made his mind up and he wants to go? Players and agents hold the real power in these situations. Would it be fair then to slag off Xia as some seem to be based on Jack wanting to leave?

hope he stays for anither year but not sure we will for multiple reasons.

Appreciate all Dr T has attempted to do these last few years but looks a bit out of his depth currently, backed the wrong people to get Villa up in Wyness and Bruce who have miss read and failed to appreciate that the championship has changed and is no longer a experiance essential and hoofer league it used to be. Deserved better with all the money and energy he has put into it but so it has gone. If he is still serious about Villa he needs to consider if Wyness is really the right CEO as well as SB as manager.

Current mood about Villa feels a bit like Brexit... been told there are plans for all outcomes but not what they are, gut instict feels like there are no plans other than to carry on and take it all as it comes, but continue the mantra to fans that all is in hand and plans are afoot. Hope i’m wrong and Dr T has it all sorted but am now resigned to the fact Villa are well and truely a Championship club like Leeds and the other dinosaurs that used to roam in higher echelons of the football league. We are where we deserve to be based on our Learner ownership years and current guys reliance on old school football men. Fans are premier league, deserve so much better.

I think he has plenty to offer still but going the way of Whelan, getting old and cant quite play to level he has in the past. Always looks like he is about to cough up his lungs or colapse. When on form he's great but not as consistant as he used to be. 

What i really like about him is his passion and evident care for the team and club. Cant knock his attitude and i really like some of the sly play he does, we've been missing that for a long time and he, JT and Jed have brought a little more slyness to the team, winning fouls, backing up teammates when scuffles happen, we used to be to much of a pushover. Maybe wortg one more year if qe dont go up but not sure he could handle the pace in the PL if we do go up.

One of the worst perfomances i have ever seen from an induvidual player i think! He was that bad. Looked like he was trying but was just awful. 

13 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said:

Are you absolutely sure we have a plan A??

Actually no, not currently

Living Norwich this was my only chance to see Villa this term and what a dissapointment and had to sit with the locals! Credit to our away support though,  fantastic, so much better than that performance deserved. felt for them all travelling so far. Best thing i heard all day was a Villa fan outside saying "to be honest i expected an absolute shithole but fair dues its quite nice!"   

I dont think i have witnessed a more amateur perfomace than what Taylor just produced. all bar Grealish weren't much better but he was awful!

Back on the Bruce out bus if we somehow get up through playoffs or not. So limited and seemingly bereft of alternative plans/tactics once the plan A is not working. Got to go either way. If we get promotion and Fulham don't, hire their manager, if we fail to get promotion get in Dean Smith, used to working on tight budgets, plays good football and Villa man. Whatever - Bruce not done well enough and needa moving on

Gave him credit after Wolves and getting us up to top 3/4, felt like we had some sort of plan or way of playing, felt like we were geting an identity in place. Unfortuantly though the last two games have shown his limitations again. Did that new coach Agnew take a couple of weeks off?

Please can someone just try to shoot, anyone just have a pop!

Have criticsised SB as and when i felt he was not achieving to the standard we should have been at but credit where its due he has stuck at it and proved me wrong and i salute his work these last few months. I wonder how much of a factor the new coach (bald fella, cant remember his name) has been as we seem to have galvanised and have more identity as a team since he joined. But even if it was his influance kudos to SB for bringing him in, you are a sum of your parts and where i think we seem to be strong at the moment is in our togetherness as a team, squad and staff, it feels like we are a proper club again and for that i thank SB and Dr T. - up the villa.

Have questioned him over the last few years but now showing his promise. Keep it going jack 

Good result, fair play SB got all his calls right yesterday and we are on a good run. Has Agnew been the influence that was needed in coaching set up maybe? Nothing will convince me SB is anything other than average manager but he is getting it right at the moment results wise (as he should be with the resources and squad he has).

Pleased he scored and prefer him in the team to Davies as it forces us to play better football and do things like cross the ball rather than hoof it long for Davies to hold up. Good to have both as options I guess but would rather start Hogan, for me he's a better player and seems to want it more. Not convinced as others seem to be by Davies as yet.

1 hour ago, Genie said:

When he loses he’s an idiot.

When he draws he’s and idiot.

When he wins he’s lucky and still an idiot

Fixed

35 minutes ago, M_Afro said:

I want those things too but I would like a manager who has already provided that environment at a similar size club. 

But that manger won't be coming because he will already be successful. No one is going to drop down from a similar sized club that is  playing well are they? I like the idea of Dean Smith managing Villa the more I think about it.

14 hours ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said:

A 0-0 draw is a big possibility in the Boro game and Bristol although they are in good form are no world beaters. Scrape a win in that one and Bruce will have bought a good bit more time.

I wonder has Tony ever read Louise Taylor's famous article on Bruce from his Sunderland days.

Probably not before he hired him, hopefully has by now. Either way perhaps all the Villatalkers on twitter could post it repeatedly on his twitter page, might open his eyes a bit? I would but not on twitter.

20 minutes ago, villarocker said:

When Bruce gets sacked it will be interesting to see whether Xia goes for someone already in a job or someone who is available. His first two appointments have been available and not worked.

Actually, who was the last manager we actually took from another club? Bruce, Di Matteo, Garde, Sherwood were all available and each have been failures. Maybe the fact they were out of work was a sign of their quality? 

Am I right in thinking Lambert was our last manager that we took from another club? Looking back at his time here, although he seemed like a failure at the time he was with us, you could argue he was actually a success because we really probably should have been relegated during his time at the club after the funding was well and truly pulled on him. Having to buy the likes of Bowery and Stevens from out of nowhere just to get a big enough squad really left him out to dry. So, you could argue he was a success in that he sustained our Premier League survival. 

Dr Xia, next time can we make sure we get someone in to manage us that is not a dinosaur or unwanted. 

Great post, personally think Lambert and Garde in particular were both hung out to dry and the others were not in work for a reason.

Unfit and seems to moan and wave his hands around a lot whilst looking at the floor, usually when he has misplaced  pass or fallen over

21 minutes ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said:

The only positive thing in the summer is that the wage bill should come down with the likes of Gabby, Terry, Snodgrass and Hutton all likely to be on big money. Assuming that is around £180-200k a week that should be enough to build a competitive championship 1st 11 on if there were some clever free transfers/small money signings made. We have to wait another 18 months to get rid of Richards, Elphick, Jedinak and Whelan.

That is very depressing

Could see Grelish and Hogan playing for Brentford, think they would be well suited

I don't like Steve Bruce football. 

Probably our best player today but that unfortuantly highlights how poor our team is. I prefer Houraine, wasn't better than JG today but at least had some attempts on goal and tracks back a lot more. I find jack really annoying as majority of the time he ends up slowing down attacks, dribbling around looking like he might do something and then pssses it backwards or sideways or gets tackled. Still waiting to see what it is makes him so special.

Not looking good enough.

Very limited player or stifled by having to be the target for every pass forward to bounce off?