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They stole the celebration anyway. They needed to put down the last bits of Aurelian's solar cult and so stole the feast day. Conveniently this allowed them to subvert all the other winter solstice festivals too. Almost everything nostalgic and cultural we do for Christmas has nothing whatsoever to do with the fable of Christ's birth.

It's just Premier League, like the English organising body is called the Football Association. It's one of the perks of inventing the sport and corruption of the name devalues it. Villa play in the Premier League, there is only one league called the Premier League in top flight football. It doesn't need a country put in front of it. The Scottish FA chose to call their league the Scottish Premier League, the FA chose to call their league the Premier League and people should respect that. Just like it's the FA Cup, Not the English FA Cup.

As Lucifer was created perfect (as was man), why didn't god save him and the other fallen angels? I can't see that Lucifer did anything worse than Eve did. I guess god is just a misogynist.

Ghosts are in the eye of the beholder. It's all hokum. Mediumship is a Victorian parlour entertainment. Ouija boards are a children's toy. If ghosts were real then every one that you saw would be a dinosaur as there are a lot more dead dinosaurs than dead people.

I feel we are getting close to the predicted ad hominem. I might be wrong about the formatting, perhaps you do randomly hit return in the middle of paragraphs. I've just found a site which has extended Dawkins' Weasel program so that it doesn't have a pre-defined target. You can even run it yourself. A warning, you may have to read a little to understand what is being demonstrated, otherwise it is possible to think god is intervening every time you click the "Go" button.

No you would need an infinite number of monkeys for an infinite amount of time as I quoted previously. Although arguably, either one of those infinities is redundant.

I note the broken formatting again, I guess this is cut and pasted rather than your own opinion. The only probability considered to be "nil" is zero. If it is impossible it has zero probability. If it is highly unlikely, then it cannot be zero. Science is not based on people scratching their heads or throwing things through windows. There is no "fundamental principle" here. Something is possible or it is not. Even if it is very, very unlikely, it is still possible. More broken formatting. If you have not read the book this is paraphrased from, or at least the chapter that explains what the experiment was, then you shouldn't expect any comment you cut and paste about it to be taken seriously. Information is not the same thing as intelligence. That's why they aren't the same word.

Actually I said that I thought you'd said it previously but I wasn't sure. I even asked you how old you thought it was and you confirmed that you didn't know. I had to ask as you quote so much from other people that I don't actually know what your own opinion is. Yes, in the context of how it is used in Genesis, that is correct. You employed circular logic and asked me to accept the whole of the bible has a single context. Both of which are bogus. I assume you mean a difference between creationism and intelligent design? In that case it is not possible to have a difference between one thing. I can't be bothered to look back, but I think you started this discussion by saying there wasn't a single example of order out of chaos. I don't think I changed the subject. You cite the bible as evidence, I am explaining why I do not accept it as evidence. Hitler was a confirmed Catholic, born to Catholic parents, one of whom was practising, the other not. Constantine converted to Christianity, much as you yourself when you became a JW. To say he was not a christian as to say that you similarly are not. All religion is about power and domination, or exploitation and subjugation. They didn't want the bible translated because they knew that it was just a set of stories, much edited and full of inconsistency and contradiction. Excuse my ignorance, but when did the JW version of the bible diverge from the council of Nicea's bible, or if you prefer, from the church of Rome's bible?

Yep, my mate knows that every time he drives out of town he'll receive a bunch of text messages as his phone registers to the next cell, even though the phone shows good coverage.

I know someone who is having exactly the same problems with an iphone on o2. I think the only thing you can do is pester the network. If it's not networked locked you could try a sim from another provider to try to prove this.

Careful, or a nutjob will try to canonise your phone.

You really don't have any answers of your own do you? So why did you use his bogus "proof" to back up your argument? We don't have anything that was written by Moses. Not one scrap. You cannot prove that Moses wrote that and even if you could, all that makes Moses is an author just like any other author. Authors write what their paymasters pay them to write. What is a "virgin planet"? When were the other thousands of planets created? Where is the second "light" in the sky (Ge 1:16)? The moon isn't a light. In Ge 1:9 "And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so.", so where is this single body of water? Or is this a special use of the word "one" meaning "many"? I can't examine the writings of Moses, no-one can. Even if I accept that he wrote Genesis, I still don't understand how things written by other, unrelated authors from different social groups and time periods could provide a single context, other than that intended by the later editors. If the bible is the word of god, why did god stop talking to biblical editors after Constantine convened the council of Nicea? Was it because this was when it was decided the mythical Jesus was divine, 300 years after his death? What about the gospels which were discarded? How do you know the sixth and seventh books of Moses weren't real? I don't trust facts from the bible any more than facts from Harry Potter. That isn't to say that there aren't facts in both. Kings Cross station definitely exists. I've seen it. Why have you brought the word "nutjob" into our discussion?

I'm not bothered by the small superstitions that people have, just as I'm not bothered that some people believe in a non-religious god. In the real world, even magic pants don't work, but believing they do is a personal thing that can trigger an effect like a placebo does. Believing in your magic pants has no impact on others. It's rolling these superstitions up into a cult that I have a problem with. By cult I mean a group which exerts power by a variety of methods, but usually through "money with menaces" threats. I think it's particularly abhorrent that as a society we allow this to happen to children.

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Really, that's the best term to describe him?

I disagree Simon and here's why... Firstly Genesis 1 V 1 states that "In the beginning God created the heavens & the Earth" - Therefore the Earth & the Universe could have been billions of years old before Jehovah created anything on the formless waste that was the Earth. The 1st day of Creation involving the Earth began once God turned his attention to it. So why did you quote this in defence of your point on the last page? This is from some text that you cut and pasted as proof of your argument. Why are you moving the goal posts? I can only respond to what you write.

As A Religious Encyclopaedia (Vol. I, p. 613) observes: “The days of creation were creative days, stages in the process, but not days of twenty-four hours each" It's not like that in any way. Hebrew contains different words for such periods of time. Just because the English word "day" has two meanings doe not mean that the Hebrew word translated as "day" has the same multiple meanings. Please sort out your quoting, I did not quote from "A Religious Encyclopaedia". Because according to Genesis, Earth and heaven were made on the first day. That's one day. You actually quoted this in the bit you cut and pasted. Who? There is another much more compelling interpretation overlooked by the author. That this is all simply a stone age story.

This is nothing to do with android. Phone Orange and tell them to fix it.

Did (s)he have an argument against that fact?

If you believe that Jesus was sent by god to save mankind, then Judas should be your hero. He was the one who caused god's will to come to pass. However John and Matthew tell us that Jesus knew Judas was going to do it, so the betrayal was of no consequence.

I think it's wifi only, but by the time it hits the uk, who knows?

No I didn't say that was the reason. I looked at the argument from both perspectives and decided that ORDER in the Universe meant an intelligence behind that ORDER. That ORDER and the Universe therefore must have been created for a purpose, otherwise an intelligence would not have created it. You stated this nonsense slightly differently when you asked for one example where order comes from chaos. I listed quite a few. There is no requirement for order to come from intelligence. Order just happens. Does "ORDER" mean something other than "order"? You forgot to tidy up the line breaks in these paragraphs when you cut and pasted them. But in a designed universe, how could a perfect creator create problem people?

As A Religious Encyclopaedia (Vol. I, p. 613) observes: “The days of creation were creative days, stages in the process, but not days of twenty-four hours each" It's like me saying... in my grandmother's DAY ........ I'm not speaking about a 24 hour period at all am I? It's not like that in any way. Hebrew contains different words for such periods of time. Just because the English word "day" has two meanings doe not mean that the Hebrew word translated as "day" has the same multiple meanings. Yôm Kippur is the last day of Tishri. It is one day, not ten. Are you referring to the quote 2 Peter 2:5 "Just as it was in the days of Noah, so too it will be in the days of the coming of the Son of Man”? Because that's just the plural of day. Remember in this fable Noah had 3 sons at the age of 500 years old. So the earth was created, according to this, in a time between 7 days and 7 millennia? So just possibly this could add 7,000 years to how old you think the world is? It's neither here nor there. Regardless of this, Genesis is out of context with respect to the passage you cite. You can't pick individual words written by different authors, remove the context and claim they mean the same thing. Well you can, but that's grasping at straws. This as an irrelevance. "Evidently"? I'm assuming you are cut and pasting again as there is no part of that sentence to which the word "evidently" can apply. With respect to Genesis, the Hebrew grammar syntax, the specific word used (day) and the clear understanding of the text all indicate the word "day" is simply narrative and cannot be allegorical.

You should read "The Blind Watchmaker" (which you misquoted earlier) it does a really good job of explaining this. Yes, co-incidence is great isn't it? The moon used to be a lot closer to the Earth though. That is not a fact. This is not correct. Current theories suggest that life as we know it requires liquid water to be available in the presence of the other atoms required for organic chemistry. This does not require a certain distance from the sun. It is likely there is liquid water under the surface of Europa, which is well outside the "Goldilocks" zone. The moon is completely irrelevant.

I have no idea. Genesis 1 V 1 In the beginning God created the heavens & the Earth.. That could have taken billions of years. Really? So the Hebrew didn't use the word "yôm" which can only be translated as what we now recognise as a 24 hour period? It doesn't use any of the Hebrew words which could mean longer periods of time and "yôm" is used consistently throughout the bibile to mean a night and a day. That is simply untrue. I didn't allude to a court case, I read the fact on his wikipedia page. I'm sure one of his followers would have fixed it if it were in error.