claret75

I wish Collins would go away.

What a completely half arsed performance.

Collins is such a fanny, moaning about his poorly nose haha.

Warnocks a PRICK.

This is shit. I don't have a problem with the formation, especially away from home, but the players are woeful. CM are chasing shadows.

MG reporting that we have signed WR Brandon Stokely. Now he may be 35 but imo there is the guy who can walk into the lineup and contribute in the slot straight away.

A poor mans Wes Welker, but i'll take that. Shows how badly they **** it up though by letting Smith walk to the Eagles. Hopefully he can tutor Jernigan and Cruz so they can contribute more later in the year.

He's a scrub, like Gaffney

We've got no choice but to pick him Our CM is the weakest it's been for a while.

Whats not having run on you in the past got to do with anything? The Skins OL has been one of the worst in the league recently, but it's improved.

Eh? How do you manage to work that one out?

You gave up 4 sacks, didn't even have a 3 yards per rush average and Grossman was pretty much hit on every play. Your Oline is bad as ever. Especially when you take into consideration our Dline was made up of backups and rookies, missing 2 Pro Bowl ends.

Believe me, that was a BIG improvement on the last 2 seasons. Grossman had much more time than McNabb had all last season.

Well he would when we were without both our all pro ends. Missing those two is a huge dropoff for us hence you looking better and still giving up 4 sacks and averaging 3ypc.

Excuses, excuses...Redskins had players injured too!!!

I'll have a bet with you Giants fans if you like...I'll give £20 to VT at the end of the season if the Skins don't have a better record than the Giants. If the Giants are have the same or better record you have to give £20 each to VT. What do you think?

I'll raise the stakes and make things more interesting, how about if the Giants don't have a better record than the skins by the end of the year i leave the message board and if the skins don't have a better record you leave?

Your just being silly now.

Whats not having run on you in the past got to do with anything? The Skins OL has been one of the worst in the league recently, but it's improved.

Eh? How do you manage to work that one out?

You gave up 4 sacks, didn't even have a 3 yards per rush average and Grossman was pretty much hit on every play. Your Oline is bad as ever. Especially when you take into consideration our Dline was made up of backups and rookies, missing 2 Pro Bowl ends.

Believe me, that was a BIG improvement on the last 2 seasons. Grossman had much more time than McNabb had all last season.

Well he would when we were without both our all pro ends. Missing those two is a huge dropoff for us hence you looking better and still giving up 4 sacks and averaging 3ypc.

Excuses, excuses...Redskins had players injured too!!!

I'll have a bet with you Giants fans if you like...I'll give £20 to VT at the end of the season if the Skins don't have a better record than the Giants. If the Giants are have the same or better record you have to give £20 each to VT. What do you think?

Whats not having run on you in the past got to do with anything? The Skins OL has been one of the worst in the league recently, but it's improved.

Eh? How do you manage to work that one out?

You gave up 4 sacks, didn't even have a 3 yards per rush average and Grossman was pretty much hit on every play. Your Oline is bad as ever. Especially when you take into consideration our Dline was made up of backups and rookies, missing 2 Pro Bowl ends.

Believe me, that was a BIG improvement on the last 2 seasons. Grossman had much more time than McNabb had all last season.

No because you never run on us anyway so its not like you lost something you once had.

The pick six was a great play by your rookie, but the only reason he made it was because he wasnt blocked properly. The RT on that play has a responsibility to initiate contact with the end/lber to engage him and keep his hands down. Usually this involves a cut block of sorts, taking the defenders legs/knees and is very simple to execute. Our RT fell down. Just one example of the bad play excuses for you.

Whats not having run on you in the past got to do with anything? The Skins OL has been one of the worst in the league recently, but it's improved...Williams is a good tackle, but his injury led to Pierre-Paul giving him a hard night and making running the ball tougher.

What about Grossman fumbling in his own half? What about our secondary messing up on the long pass that set up Mannings TD run? What if Gano had put a 39 yard FG over? The winning margin may have been bigger

A lot of ifs and buts...at the end of the day you were well beaten.

It was a game late into the 4th so far from being well beaten.

You averaged 3 yards a rush against us and that was with a rookie starting at MLB and a DE at OLB.

Your secondary didn't mess up on the long play, they were well beat by a double move and Eli eluded your pass rush, watch it again.

What about Grossman fumbling? Its not like it occurred due to bad play or failed execution such as a missed block, it was due to a the pass rush by JPP who put a move on your tackle and left him standing there thinking what just happened.

FG yeah, poor execution.

The long pass was badly defended...FS Doughty **** up, if Landry had played, Atogwe would have been there instead of Doughty...there's another of the Skins injuries having a negative impact.

Your excuses are wearing thin...you had a rookie at MLB and DE at LB? Skins had a rookie playing on the the DL, luckily he sacked your QB twice. Also, ROOKIE Ryan Kerrigan had never started a game at LB before, his position was DE too.

Do you see what I'm getting at?

Think we really need another receiver anyway. I'd like to think we'd pick someone up, anyone, because from #3 onwards they are shite.

Donte Stallworth?

No because you never run on us anyway so its not like you lost something you once had.

The pick six was a great play by your rookie, but the only reason he made it was because he wasnt blocked properly. The RT on that play has a responsibility to initiate contact with the end/lber to engage him and keep his hands down. Usually this involves a cut block of sorts, taking the defenders legs/knees and is very simple to execute. Our RT fell down. Just one example of the bad play excuses for you.

Whats not having run on you in the past got to do with anything? The Skins OL has been one of the worst in the league recently, but it's improved...Williams is a good tackle, but his injury led to Pierre-Paul giving him a hard night and making running the ball tougher.

What about Grossman fumbling in his own half? What about our secondary messing up on the long pass that set up Mannings TD run? What if Gano had put a 39 yard FG over? The winning margin may have been bigger

A lot of ifs and buts...at the end of the day you were well beaten.

No one said you werent the better team. You dont win very often and feel the need to defend your win from being questioned we get it, but the injuries and bad play are facts for all to see.

You couldnt run on us this game again but without our all pro ends you faced less pressure and exposed our secondary. I hope they are back the next game so we can put you back in your place.

Righto lol

Can I use Trent Williams' injury at LT as an excuse for us not running the ball as well? He played injured all game.

What frustrates me about this site is that those that do rate Petrov are never prepared to have a discussion as to why they do, what they believe he brings, what sort of formation suits him best and what are his weaknesses (afterall every player - even Messi - has their weaknesses). And they are very keen to brand those that don't as Petrov "haters". I doubt whether any of us hate any of our players, although maybe Heskey and Warnock might bring about that level of anomosity with a few! But we all have our views as to what would make us a better team and want to discuss those.

And in equal measure it's just as infuriating that we get the same old nonsense about Petrov tiring, passing backwards, never shooting, how bad he shoots when he does shoot, crap captain, to blame for the global economic meltdown, nailing Jesus to the cross and flying a plane into the twin towers not to mention the sometime whispered accusations that he's a secret member of Al Quaida and the Real IRA.

I couldnt believe he scored that goal...80% of his efforts are not just bad, they're terrible. He's an average PL CM, always has been.

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Some Giants fans are clearly deluded...Skins played very well, why they have to blame the defeat on their bad play and injuries I don't know. You were beaten by the better team on the night.

More news...giants get beaten by scrub team.

albrighton with a classy cross

what the **** was delph doing for the pen...ffs

Haha...at last Petrov hits a shot that either doesnt get off the ground or go miles over tha bar

quality play from villa there...Collins typically tries a spectacular volley, then Petrov miscontrols a simple ball and Bannan tries a 30 yarder with several players in the box

*face palm*

playing much better 2nd half

Warnock really is stupid.

This has probably been the worst half of football I have seen from Villa in the last 5 years. Absolutely shocking half. How Everton arent 4-0 up..

Weve played much MUCH worse than this in the past 5 years

Petrov is absolutely woeful.

Have we though? If Everton had a decent striker, we would be at least 4 down. Not one of them out there looks like they want to even be wearing the shirt.

Its a poor performance but ive seen worse.

We may as well take Nzogbia off and throw a man upfront if we carry on giving the ball away, at least we'll be able to throw some balls up to the front men.

At least we look better with Bannan on instead of Heskey, the CM improved since he came on.