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  1. The guy interfering with the judges in the Khan fight isn't even an IBF official.

    Time to call it a no contest. Sucks for Peterson but that's what the rules call for.

    Despite there being no evidence that he affected the result? I'm pretty sure the Fan Man was a distraction to the officials but that's no cause to make that a NC.

    Things that were against the rules:

    1) Random guy with no credentials sitting at the top table

    2) Said random guy talking to the officials

    3) Said random guy handling scorecards

    Any one of them is grounds for a no contest.

    All 3 of them together, when coupled with the fact Welsh's card (the guy who he was sitting next to, leaning all over and handling the scorecards with) didn't match the others? You really think that that should just be shrugged off with a "can't say he affected the result!"?

    I'm sorry but that's ridiculous. Rules were seriously broken, the penalties should come into play, anything but a no contest and boxing is an even bigger joke than I thought it was. You might not like Khan (I don't) but that doesn't mean that the regulations shouldn't be followed. What's the point in having them if they aren't followed through with?

    Yes it's wrong, and it's something that should certainly be prevented in the future. That doesn't change the fact that Golden Boy accepted in a meeting after the fight after seeing the scorecards involved that the correct decision was announced. So what was the effect of Hatman's actions which warrants revoking Peterson's win?

    If Hatman had been sitting next to a judge and doing those things I'd be all for taking action, but a supervisor? Not for me.

    All shall be revealed after the IBF hearing next week anyway. I suspect a rematch will be ordered with the win standing.

  2. i take it lets make history means lets get filthy **** rich

    im still not convinced it will happen, if he really wants this fight will he then split the pot and not ask for the tests that he did previously? if all he is doing is building up the hype only to then make the same demands that saw it collapse last time then he's a dick

    I don't think it will happen. It's clear Arum isn't interested, that's probably why Floyd is piping up now.

    The guy interfering with the judges in the Khan fight isn't even an IBF official.

    Time to call it a no contest. Sucks for Peterson but that's what the rules call for.

    Despite there being no evidence that he affected the result? I'm pretty sure the Fan Man was a distraction to the officials but that's no cause to make that a NC.

  3. Del Boy!

    I think he will get beat, which will put him on three defeats in four which in turn will make him look worse than he actually is. I can kinda see why he wasnt up for the Fury fight, the disappointments of the two cancellations vs Wlad clearly got to him and as he had been in the gym non stop for six months then he was probably sick to death of training. Schoolboy error though because I think Chisora beats Fury if they are both at 100%. He was absolutely robbed in Finland, but I think Vitali has too much class. Do you think Chisora will still be able to fight against top ten ranked opponents after this if he loses?

    One of the problems with this heavyweight division, other than the fact that it's filled with poor fighters, is that the top 10 fighters rarely fight each other. They just pad their records until they get the Klitschko pay check. There are some good fights to be made - if he doesn't win - against the likes of Price and Fury. What I worry about is that if things aren't going his way against Vitali he could be on the end of a nasty beating, so it was encouraging to hear him saying this week that he would rather be pulled out than end up in hospital like Briggs did.

    I personally think he will do quite well. I'm not saying he's going to win, but I think he will be competitive and has his moments. Which is more than can be said for most recent opponents. Either way, the build up should be fun...

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  4. He wasn't sitting next to a judge. He was sitting next to a "supervisor". The bloke who transfers the scorecards to the master sheet. There is absolutely no evidence that he had any effect on the result.

    Regardless, none of this changes the fact that Khan lost the fight in the ring.

    No evidence?

    Except for the fact the WBA scorecard didn't match up with the other scorecards, and the IBF one has amazingly disappeared.

    I'm sorry but if the guy who he's sitting next to, the WBA official for the fight, admitted that his scorecard didn't match the others, then it's safe to say that he DID have an effect on something.

    Whether Khan lost the fight in the ring or not is irrelevant to the fact that this guy shouldn't have been there, shouldn't have been talking to ANYONE on that table, and that the rules of the sport state that if ANYONE interferes with the judges or officials during a fight (and from the video it's clear that he did) the fight should be ruled a no contest.

    I don't like Khan, I think he threw the fight away, but I like to think boxing should have some integrity. And that means doing the right thing and following the rules of the sport, and calling the fight a no contest unless there's somehow some miraculously credible explanation for why an IBF official who wasn't there on official duty, was interfering with the WBA official to the point where the WBA official's card didn't match the others (be that because of the direct actions of this guy, or just from the distraction).

    Where has this come from about the scorecards not matching up? As far as I can see Khan's camp aren't even claiming.

    How did Khan throw the fight away?

    I don't think it should be called a NC. If it is proved that HatMan did some serious wrongdoing and had an effect on the outcome, i.e. the scorecards were announced wrong, then sure. But until that point, why should Peterson lose his titles?

    It looks like Peterson is going down the Top Rank route anyway, so it's more likely we'll see him fight Pac or Bradley again, than a Khan rematch at this stage.

    Richard Schaefer was claiming it not long after the fight, (there's plenty of articles saying it from the middle of december) Khan has stated it on twitter, and it's on every article about the controversy.

    If you haven't seen the claim that the scorecards didn't match up you can't have read much into it.

    Khan threw the fight away by not fighting. When he fought he won rounds, when he didn't he lost them. He didn't need to push off all the time, he did, he threw the fight away.

    You say why should Peterson lose his titles, but why shouldn't the rules of the sport be enforced? Boxing is already seen as being corrupt as hell, if the very rules that are meant to ensure the judging of a fight isn't interfered with aren't enforced then surely that just goes to show that it has not intention of shedding that stigma?

    Sure it might suck for Peterson, but that's just the way it has to be. The rules are there for a reason, and from the looks of it the rules were clearly broken. What's the point of having them if they're not enforced? No contest and a mandatory rematch is the only way to do it.

    I saw them making claims like that in the week after the fight but nothing recently, such as since Hatman's involvement was spotted. I've tried not to read into it too much because I find the whole farce fairly boring to be honest. I also don't have much trust for the noise coming out of Khan's camp.

    If it is proved that Hatman had an effect in changing the result of the fight - which seems unlikely - then sure they should ammend the result then, but currently there is no evidence that I can see that his presense changed the result of the fight.

    There have been far, far bigger injustices in the past year than this.

    I don't agree on Khan throwing the fight away. He was pushing because he had no answer to Peterson's inside work. If he hadn't pushed him off Lamont would have been on his chest all night and would have won much easier.

  5. He wasn't sitting next to a judge. He was sitting next to a "supervisor". The bloke who transfers the scorecards to the master sheet. There is absolutely no evidence that he had any effect on the result.

    Regardless, none of this changes the fact that Khan lost the fight in the ring.

    No evidence?

    Except for the fact the WBA scorecard didn't match up with the other scorecards, and the IBF one has amazingly disappeared.

    I'm sorry but if the guy who he's sitting next to, the WBA official for the fight, admitted that his scorecard didn't match the others, then it's safe to say that he DID have an effect on something.

    Whether Khan lost the fight in the ring or not is irrelevant to the fact that this guy shouldn't have been there, shouldn't have been talking to ANYONE on that table, and that the rules of the sport state that if ANYONE interferes with the judges or officials during a fight (and from the video it's clear that he did) the fight should be ruled a no contest.

    I don't like Khan, I think he threw the fight away, but I like to think boxing should have some integrity. And that means doing the right thing and following the rules of the sport, and calling the fight a no contest unless there's somehow some miraculously credible explanation for why an IBF official who wasn't there on official duty, was interfering with the WBA official to the point where the WBA official's card didn't match the others (be that because of the direct actions of this guy, or just from the distraction).

    Where has this come from about the scorecards not matching up? As far as I can see Khan's camp aren't even claiming.

    How did Khan throw the fight away?

    I don't think it should be called a NC. If it is proved that HatMan did some serious wrongdoing and had an effect on the outcome, i.e. the scorecards were announced wrong, then sure. But until that point, why should Peterson lose his titles?

    It looks like Peterson is going down the Top Rank route anyway, so it's more likely we'll see him fight Pac or Bradley again, than a Khan rematch at this stage.

  6. He wasn't sitting next to a judge. He was sitting next to a "supervisor". The bloke who transfers the scorecards to the master sheet. There is absolutely no evidence that he had any effect on the result.

    Regardless, none of this changes the fact that Khan lost the fight in the ring.

  7. Boxrec"]Chisora to fight Vitali Klitschko in February, according to German newspaper

    German national newspaper Bild is reporting that Vitali Klitschko will box Londoner Dereck Chisora next February.

    According to them, the WBC heavyweight champion will defend his title at Munich's Olympic Hall on Saturday 18th February.

    Chisora looked desperately unlucky to lose by split decision when travelling to Finland earlier this month to challenge Robert Helenius for his European title.

    "An interesting opponent," the 40-year old Ukrainian told Bild. "For me, he won the European Championship against Robert Helenius quite clearly."

    The newspaper also reports that the veteran champ will fight David Haye in Germany in June.

  8. I don't think there was a problem with the tactics. It wasn't like Khan wanted to fight on the ropes, he was just forced to by the stronger man. You can't flurry and run all night against an opponent like that.

    Maybe. Khan is the more technically gifted fighter. He is also quicker and has better footwork. I think he could have and should have performed better. I don't want to sound like I'm taking anything away from Peterson, he fought very well and deserves his titles!

    I disagree. I thought Peterson was technically better. He was more accurate and had more authority to his shots. I think his footwork is better as well which is one of the reasons he could trap Khan on the ropes so easily. Yes, Khan has quick feet but his foot placement is poor which leads to him falling off balance and squaring up on the inside.

  9. It's very easy to blame the ref, or Johnson, for not stopping it in hindsight but no one was calling for it to be stopped at the time. Jim Watt said he quit, and the US commentators for Showtime thought the same. There was even a doctor commentating as part of the showtime team who I believe agreed. 3 ringside doctors, and none of them took any action. It's worth noting that this wasn't the first time he had started blinking uncontrollably like that. He had done it in his previous fight against Julian Jackson (which he won) and it had happened in sparring sessions leading up to the Benn fight. The way he was pushing his gumshield out of his mouth was unusual, but so was the frenetic pace of the fight. For me there is one person to blame for what happened that night, Gerald McClellan.

    So do you think he had problems before the Benn fight? Why do you say McClellan was to blame? Im not saying i disagree, just wondered.

    Im not a doctor, but is rapid blinking the sign of brain injury?

    From what I've read he definitely had problems before the Benn fight. I was reading an article from one of McClellan's sparring partner's (Tarick Salmaci) earlier. He said that they were sparring and after Salmaci landed a jab, McClellan started blinking just like in the Benn fight and they had to stop the sparring. It's not all that surprising given that it's reported he used to drain down from above 180 pounds for his middleweight fights (160lbs) and was then getting in with thunderous punchers like Julian Jackson.

    The reason 24 hour weigh-ins were introduced in favour of same-day weigh-ins was to give fighters the chance to fully rehydrate. With the focus being on brain fluids. A lot of fighters, like McClellan, just use this as an opportunity to push the boundaries further, to drain themselves of even more weight to give themselves an advantage on fight night. There's still been virtually nothing done to curb this, it's all to common for fighters to come in over a stone above the weight limit on fight night. It's not safe for them to cut that much weight, and it's not safe for the fighters who then face to face men much bigger than themselves. It's only the IBF who are now introducing 10% rehydration limits, which is a step forward.

    As well as that for McClellan being to blame, he decided to get in the ring with Nigel Benn. He agreed to the fight. Despite all the safety precautions in place, you're still taking blows to the head.

  10. It's very easy to blame the ref, or Johnson, for not stopping it in hindsight but no one was calling for it to be stopped at the time. Jim Watt said he quit, and the US commentators for Showtime thought the same. There was even a doctor commentating as part of the showtime team who I believe agreed. 3 ringside doctors, and none of them took any action. It's worth noting that this wasn't the first time he had started blinking uncontrollably like that. He had done it in his previous fight against Julian Jackson (which he won) and it had happened in sparring sessions leading up to the Benn fight. The way he was pushing his gumshield out of his mouth was unusual, but so was the frenetic pace of the fight. For me there is one person to blame for what happened that night, Gerald McClellan.

  11. I have absolutley no interest in boxing and didn't know about this incident at all, so I'm most likely speaking out my arse here.

    How is boxing still allowed? I'm not saying it should be banned or anything, I'm just surprised it isn't. Why do people enjoy watching two people smash each others faces in? Why do people want to smash each others faces in, especially after incidents such as this?

    I'm not taking the piss by the way, genuine questions. I just don't 'get' boxing or any other fighting sports really

    People clearly do enjoy watching Boxing. 3 million people tuned in to watch 2 fairly unknown fighters in a British title fight in July. Not to mention the 20 million who watched Barry McGuigan back in the day. Why they enjoy it is a different matter, but to boil it down to "two people smashing each others faces in" is silly. Is Football '22 blokes trying to kick the ball in the opposite goal?', not quite.

    It's recognized that boxing saves a lot more lives than it ends. The sport today is actually very safe, a lot of fans actually complain that the sport has became too safe with the amount of premature stoppages we see today. To make a comparison, a lot more people die from showjumping than Boxing every year.

  12. I hope they show McClellan for what he was really like as a person before the fight.

    As for Lisa and her "How can he sleep at night?", I'd ask her the same thing. How can she sleep at night knowing that it's her fault that Gerald is as bad as he is now.

    You mean by flying him back to the States against the doctors wishes?

    Yeah, apparently most of the damage done to McClellan, in terms of sight and hearing, was done when he relapsed in the States.

  13. I hope they show McClellan for what he was really like as a person before the fight.

    As for Lisa and her "How can he sleep at night?", I'd ask her the same thing. How can she sleep at night knowing that it's her fault that Gerald is as bad as he is now.

    The tragedy is how once no longer a money maker for king he was abandoned and it has taken all his earnings plus to pay medical bills and as that ran out years ago he relies on donations. Where was King?

    Don King did donate $25k a few years ago to be fair. I think he had robbed McClellan of most of his money before the fight as well, in typical King style.

    The problem is that fighter try to lose weight for fights by body fluid loss and dehydration in the brain can cause brain damage

    What's terrible is there has been so little to change this in the years since. It's just plain dangerous for both the cutters, and the fighters who have to face them.

  14. margarito tried to say after the fight that he wasnt hurt at all and he didnt feel the punches, I bet he **** felt them this morning

    did you see the aaron fight wallet inspector?

    Yeah, Rose boxed brilliantly I thought. Arron was way too reliant on his jab and when he couldn't land it he looked clueless. That card Edwards handed in was a disgrace.

  15. Wallet inspector that is unlike you to say something like that lol

    You can't possibly be insinuating that he knew about the cheating all along??? He had no idea that they were filling his gloves with cement and barbed wire, they done it all whilst his back was turned lol

    Good scrap though, I'm surprised it wasn't stopped earlier to be honest, it could easily have been stopped the round before. Cotto just had to keep dancing to his left I don't give a **** what margerreto said he couldn't see a **** thing out of that eye

    Haha.

    I think it was only for Margarito's heart that they let it go on that long. Even after the 9th he was desperate to go on.

    Cotto was very good.

    I bet on him in rounds 7-9, £5 at 9/1 with bet365. Check my account today to see my bet is a losing bet and get fed the following when i enquire:

    In reference to your enquiry, Miguel Angel Cotto vs Antonio Margaritto -this fight was stopped after the 9th round by the ringside doctors who ruled that Margaritto was unable to continue, bets have been settled in-line with the official result a round 10 technical knockout.

    Our rules state that" If either fighter fails to answer the bell for the next round then his opponent will be deemed to have won in the previous round"

    As such M.Angel Cotto was deemed to have won this bout in the 10th Round. please confirm your username and four digit security number.

    Yeah something doesn't add up there and i have told them as much.

    The bell rang for the 10th so it goes down as a 10th round stoppage. I think it was officially called as 0:03 into the 10th round. Unlucky.

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