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  1. I’ve seen the rumour about us trying to put a cash plus player deal together with Real Madrid for Grealish.  Anybody hear anything about which Madrid player?  Thinking it might give clues as to the position we’re looking to fill and the amount we are prepared to pay for it….

  2. 15 minutes ago, burchy said:

    There was talk before all the Grealish circus of quality opposed to quantity and quality is circa 30-40m plus so even with only two players targeted we’d be looking at 80m odd, without the 100m added on from the Grealish sale. 

    We’ve still got sizeable money spend I feel. It will be interesting to see who we spend it on and how much.

    I think there’s an opportunity for us here and I hope we seize it with both hands. 

    Get the feeling Buendia was in both scenarios, so you may be double counting ?  Guessing …. Konsa cover, 2nd Gk, 1 significant CM and replacing any further exits.

  3. 1 minute ago, DCJonah said:

    How has anyone taken that We're done spending from that video?

    We've replaced Jack so all the talk of Cantwell is probably rubbish  

    But we all know we need another CB so no chance we don't add any more.

    I see Cantwell as a replacement for ElGhazi, but not at £40m.  We’ll have moved on.

  4. Apologies if I’m late with this one, but occurs to me that Deano has some history of having best players sold on and having to re-galvanise the team with new blood.  Seems his time at Brentford was perfect schooling for moving Villa quickly forward, as a team, post-Grealish?

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  5. 1 minute ago, The Fun Factory said:

    Surely if he is imminently going to City, Dean and the management would have had the meeting asap at 9am with coffee rather than faffing about all day to see if the captain and the talisman of the team is going to pack his bags?

    No, you want him back in the swing of things with his mates, making it clear what he’d be giving up.

  6. 31 minutes ago, Spoony said:

    Purely devil’s advocate here but it’s interesting no one here is really talking about the pure financials of it. From a purely financial perspective, is there any scenario where rejecting £100m for an asset and then paying that asset £200k p/w makes any sense? Even qualifying for the CL or whatever doesn’t really cover that does it? And we then consider how unlikely it is we will even qualify for the CL. 

    I think we are possibly ignoring the fact that £100m is a truly insane amount of money and the wages Grealish is no doubt demanding will be insane. 

    Under MoN we finished 6th, 3 years in a row, whilst simultaneously paying the 6th highest wages in the league.  If we’re looking up the table we have to pick up the salaries of the players that will get us there.

  7. 2 hours ago, blandy said:

    Not sure. I thought that to start with, but now don’t. Because of the effect of promotion on finances (massive plus) and particularly income, I think it’s neutral at worst. Even a newly promoted club spending a ton on transfers gets that outlay amortised over the player contract lengths, so in some ways the promoted clubs are better placed, starting from a EFL level of running costs, but PL income.

    They’re cheaper because they aren’t as good, if they were, you’d have them on premier league contracts ??

    EFL calculation would apparently allow us £11m more in losses.  That’s a sizeable disadvantage.

  8. 59 minutes ago, blandy said:

    The EFL way of doing it isn’t being used by the PL. The EFL has said, because of COVID, instead of taking the last 3 years losses together, we’ll allow you to use 4 years losses and then count the 3 year pass/fail value as ¾ of that 4 year total.

    The PL has said, also, that instead of taking the last 3 years losses together, we’ll use a 4 year window, but unlike the EFL we count the two most recent of the 4 as just one (averaging).

    Both methods basically give clubs a maths tweak to spread COVID losses over 4 years, instead of the normal 3 year window, for FFP purposes, but they do it in different ways.

    (As I understand it)

    Thereby screwing over the newly promoted, that little bit more, nice.

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  9. On 29/07/2021 at 09:38, Czarnikjak said:

    @blandy

    Found it, it is in the Premier League Handbook after all, just in different section of it:

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    It is 4 seasons as I assumed in my calculations.

    Must have something wrong but if you divide by 4 then * 3…. that’s (35 + 35 + 13 + 13)/4*3 = 96 * 0.75 = £72m ?

  10. 49 minutes ago, allani said:

    Top 3 or 4 English strikers doesn't make him "top 6" level - especially as the teams that those players represent finished in 7th, 9th, 10th and 11th places respectively.  Unless you count Jamie Vardy but he's probably now on the downturn of his career so as much as I rate him, I haven't included him in the above.  I think Ollie was very impressive last season (especially as it was his first season at this level) but he's not (yet) in the top 5 or 6 strikers I have seen at Villa Park or the best 5 or 6 strikers in the PL.  He missed a few one-on-ones last season that you would expect a genuine "top 6" striker to bury with their eyes shut.  I want to see him sort that out before I count him as a "top class" striker.  However, I genuinely hope that with Jack and Emi providing him through balls to chase rather than long balls down the channels that he will score more this season.  If Man City were to buy Ollie now they would be buying potential not the end product which I guess was my point.  Hopefully this season (and next) he makes that step up because if he is banging in 20 odd goals in front of Jack, Emi, Bertie and ANO then we will be having a great season.

    If he switches to taking penalties, his supply improves (Emi, full season Jack, +ANO) and he improves his chance conversion rate (hits fewer posts, holds his run by 6 inches etc) he’ll be hoping / expecting 25+ ??

  11. 4 hours ago, jacketspuds said:

    El Ghazi is a good squad player and proved his worth on more than one occassion last season. I would hope that he is the one pushing for a move as opposed to us looking to sell him on.

    100% agree with your first sentence, but it’s new contract time for AEG (2 years left), he’s going to want more money and more playing time.  Not convinced he’s going to be offered more playing time, and if he’s not playing more why would you offer him more money??

    What’s different to usual is that we aren’t paying him an offensive weekly salary that means he can maybe find what he’s looking for elsewhere?

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  12. 51 minutes ago, M_Afro said:

    Johan is obviously working hard on stuff in the background. As Dean said before the end of the season, a lot of work had already commenced on potential signings. I suspect the profile of player that we are now after will complicate and string out negotiations and we may face much greater competition. All of this will delay matters. We have to dig deep here people and trust the process. We have serious people in charge now.

    Any chance finalising things has been delayed due to WE still being in a post Championship bender 🍺🍺🍺 ?

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