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9 hours ago, Delphinho123 said:

Of your current crop of talent, who do you think could step up to the Premier League? 

Benrahma, Watkins & Henry without a problem

2 hours ago, jacketspuds said:

Slightly tongue in cheek, but the way you talk on here makes it sound like you've got a team of players worth £15m-£25m each. Only thing I would say is you've got to be careful not to big them up too much, otherwise it'll start to look like your manager is underperforming with a squad that good.

I can see where your coming from, we have what is considered by many people a team of player more than competent to hold their own in the Championship who play good fast flowing football for most of the time, and are worth the same price as players from other teams in the Championship, but within that group we unearth each year a couple of exceptional talents that are worth the price you state, Griffin Park only holds 12,000 with just 98 corporate seats means we have to sell them each year to survive, hopefully the revenue that the new stadium will bring in means we might be able to stop selling our best players.

1 minute ago, VillaHatesMe said:

What can you tell me about Josh Dasilva?

Another one from our money making stable, best improved player this year, still learning and getting better all the time, going to be outstanding, snapped for nothing from Arsenal, will fetch us another handsome profit.

5 minutes ago, jacketspuds said:

I can't see Chelsea going for Benrahma if they get Havertz. I personally think a fee between £20m and £25m would do it. He's one of the best players in the Championship and would make a big difference to us.

I would love to see him in a Villa shirt, as I can't stand Chelsea, or Arsenal (another interested club) but you will have to pay the price, £20M is far too low as he still has 2 years left on his contract, and that always puts the price up, If Villa are seriously interested in him they don't need to mess up any bidding with us like they did last time (allegedly) and miss the boat.

12 hours ago, mottaloo said:

Probably been mentioned already but I'd keep an eye on the championship play offs and should brentford mess up then go in for benrahma esp if trez is off to Turkey. 

I think Benrahma might play his face up for a move and if we offer a fair fee say £12-15m then it might help them make a dent in the debt of a new stadium esp when there's not going to be any fans in it for however long.

Dream on, We only sell at our valuation as Villa discoverd last year, we were the only Championship club to post a profit last season (£20 Million profit made on player sales alone), and that did not count with the sale of Maupay £18.5M, Konsa £12M + 3 more making a grand total of close on £40M profit that goes on this seasons books,  and this is the only way we survive by buying players cheap, developing them and selling them on at premium prices, as far as the new stadium goes there is very little debt as Griffin Park is destined for prime housing and was purchased by the developers who built our new stadium and the surrounding flats, 

After yesterdays disaster at Swansea we have a uphill battle to join you in the Premiership, as we peaked far to early, It is more than likely that Benrahama will move on anyway, and the feeling is the fee will be in the region of £25-30 Million with Chelsea allegedly leading the chase.

3 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

He looks unbelievable.  His run just now was superb.

Just lacked the finish 

Shame, he's not having one of his better games, bit below par at the moment, and Watkins is having a mare!!

1 minute ago, jacketspuds said:

Just curious, if you had to sell one of them, who would you rather Brentford sold out of Benrahma and Mbuemo?

Obviously I hope all our players stay, but to answer your question I would rather Benrahma be sold because at just 20 years old Mbuemo is going to be the real deal this next season, whispers are that we have found another Algerian who is as good as Benrahma, if not better.

6 hours ago, 7392craig said:

I know Brentford are playing well, I know Benrahma has had a great season. But if you don’t get promoted you won’t be getting £40 million for him. That’s the ceiling of his price even if you come up.

I think you could find that there are a couple of London clubs interested who would pay £30 million + for him, you are correct about £40 million, that's just pie in the sky and pure fantasy, that comes from newspaper and web journalist with nothing better to write about, so they make it up!!!!

4 hours ago, MotoMkali said:

Wasn't he injured last season? It makes much more sense for us to go for him now assuming you guys don't come up and we don't go down. 

He was injured, but only missed a few matches, and since then he's been on fire, so he won't go on the cheap. 

10 minutes ago, villalad21 said:

We absolutely have to go all out trying to sign Benrahma.

Can't do the Maupay mistake again.

What makes you think that if we don't go up you can sign him this time round, according to to the press etc you weren't prepared to pay the price in the last window, I think Villa might have missed the boat once again this time round, his stock and price have escalated to at least twice the price you were "allegedly" prepared to pay, and even during this monitory restraint due to Covid-19 we are not desperate for the money, and also reading between the lines I think he would prefer a London club, but then, who knows, offer us and him the right money and he, like most players will go wherever, remember, money is still what it's all about. 

2 hours ago, VillaChris said:

Newcastle very interested in Eze according to reports.

I imagine we'll try to get Benrahama for 20m if it's talk of reduced fee as pretty sure they wanted at least 25m last summer. So you could sell Trez for what we paid back to Turkish league and also Jota and that's about half of the fee. Wonder if Brentford fan would actually want Jota back as part of the deal as he was excellent for them.

The sums quoted were merely wild guesses by the media, nobody knows what prices are paid until company figures are produced, the club know his valuation and do not need to sell as we made a profit of £20 million last season according to this years published figures, we also have made (a reported) £40 million profit on Players from the start of this season, that includes Maupay & Konsa, so we have no need to sell on the cheap, and he would therefore would fetch a good sum of money.

As far as Jota goes, he's history and worth very little money now, plus we don't want him back, and we have better now, times have changed, he was a fantastic player for us who gave us so much enjoyment on and off the pitch, I don't know what they did to him at Brum, but he was never the same again, I think DS signed him thinking he could make him reproduce his Brentford form, that obviously went tits up. 

5 hours ago, John said:

Chelsea are already awash with options and he might not get frequent games with them. Still I guess money talks wages wise, they have the money, so they can operate a "buy all the players" transfer policy as well. I can see he might want to stay in London (if he does, I hope it's with yourselves).    

Can't agree more, it would be the icing on the cake for us, after what has been the most traumatizing time for all of us, we need football to bring back a bit of normality, Nail biting time coming up for us both, you hoping to stay up, us hoping to go up, we both have tricky ones to start with, you Sheff Utd,  us Fulham, Good luck to Villa, hope you survive.

30 minutes ago, useless said:

There might not even be any London teams interested in him, I know he's been linked to Arsenal and Chelsea but I doubt that, both those teams have fallen behind where they feel they should be so will want more proven players who've performed in the top leagues, you could say the same about Tottenham as well. If we stay up and Brentford aren't promoted, then I think there's a very good chance of us signing Benrahama if we want him.

But it's only all paper talk, and probably bears no resemblance to what might or might not happen, but as he and his partner love London, my money is going on Chelsea, if we don't get prompted, Frank Lampard is starting to build a new squad for the future, and like at Derby he is going for younger hungry players, and Benrahama fits the bill and will be affordable for Chelsea.

18 minutes ago, Villa Stu said:

He was injured last summer and we needed to pretty much sign a full squad mate. If we stay up it will (hopefully) be quality this time round over quantity

He only missed the first 2 matches, Boro & Brum in early August, he was fit but was nursed back into games as a precaution, was then ever present, so he would have still done a good job for you, but I think you have missed the boat on him now, as I'm sure it will be a London club he goes to.

2 hours ago, Brentfordnylons said:

Big IF's as I have a feeling Villa stay up and Bees go up.

Even if you stay up and we don't make it I think there is very little chance of him going to Villa, he is one of our highly prized assets and he still has 2 years to run on his contract + option of another year so he won't be going on the cheap, Villa wouldn't pay the alleged fee we asked for last year, so what is different? besides him and his partner love the London life and if he does move on I would put money on him joining a Premiership London club, as they seem to have already taken an interest in him.

On the other hand I hope it is as you predict, fingers crossed, as I always love a trip to Villa Park

15 hours ago, Tomaszk said:

Absolutely. Be so interesting to see how they get on if they get up.

I think they could easily go down first or second season but I'll be surprised if they aren't an established Premier League side in 5/6 years.

I think if we do ever go up we will do a "Bournemouth" and survive for a few seasons using our tried and trusted method of buying/selling that works well at the moment, whether it would work in the Premiership remains to be seen, Wolves & Sheff United seem to have brought & sold wisely and are doing well, But The Premiership is a whole new ball game as Villa are finding out, I was surprised that DS never came in for a couple of our players in the Jan window, paper talk and tittle tattle claimed they wouldn't spend the (press quoted) money we were asking, with hindsight had you have brought them or brought more wisely, you might well have been further up the table and out of danger, who knows?, but I do hope you stay up. 

4 hours ago, Villan4Life said:

Brentford have let some of their scouts go, Only few of the other scout's are being kept on.

Cut back's even for them currently as i know a few that have been on 1 year contracts

Wow, that's news to me, have you got a link on that one?, the last I heard is they employed 2 new Scandinavian ones that will also cover Iceland & Finland as well, as well as another one for parts of South America, and this was only last week.

11 hours ago, sne said:

But I imagine Brentford just like most others clubs had not factored in Corona when they budgeted for this season.

A lot of clubs will be hemorrhaging money and some will be forced to sell players just to stay afloat.

Not saying you will but everything has changed now, who knows.

We all agree that Covid 19 has changed the world's stage, and a few clubs might well go close to even closing down, but I think we are in a fairly strong position given our player sales revenue these past 2 seasons, but it still could be tight.

On 27/05/2020 at 09:54, abdulaziz1 said:

Benrahma is linked with Chelsea! We’ve definitely mistaken by not getting him last season.

Now also linked with Newcastle and another French club, any movement with Benrahma is dependent on where we finally finishes at the end, we get promoted, he stays, we stay in the Championship and he will more than likely be off, But he won't be cheap though, we actually made a £20 million profit last season, and that was without the sale of Maupay and four other players to a total of approx £40 million,  we stand to make more profit again when next years finances are revealed, so we are not desperate to sell, especially on the cheap, As with Maupay we will manage without Benrahma as we have other players in waiting to take his place, that is how we operate.

On 17/02/2020 at 05:04, villalad21 said:

This is why I never wanted Dean Smith in the first place.

His teams simply cannot defend. Ask any Brentford or Walsall fan and they'll tell you the same thing.

Look how much Brentford have defensively improved after he left.

We now have the best Goals Against record in the Championship and the sixth best out of 92 clubs, seeing our defensive problems under DS the DOF's were fairly quick in replacing most of our defensive line up at the start of this season, they made some shrewd buy's with players they had been scouting for a long time, and at the moment, fingers crossed, it has paid off. 

As an outsider it seemed that Villa spent a lot of money at the start of the season very quickly, do you think it was panic buying? because Villa wouldn't have had a lot of timed to scout and evaluate them, reading through your forum it appears that many of you are disappointed with some of the players acquired, am I right, or barking up the wrong tree?, just out of interest it would be nice to hear some thoughts of you Villa fans on your recruitment system, good and bad.

22 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

Benrahma hatrick.Really wish we had signed him.  Such a talent.
 

If Brentford come up they’ll be able to keep him for another year.

Thank goodness Neither him or Ollie Watkins moved on in this window, I think they wanted to stay to see if we can get promoted ready for the move to the new stadium, Watkins is contracted for 3 years +1 option and Benrahma has 2 years left in June, so If we don't get promotion this year I can see both of them moving on, I think we have already anticipated this could happen and have bought in 4 new players this window, just in case,

I don't think either would look out of place in the Premiership, Benrahma, after a few injuries at the start of the season has now found his old form has returned, as seen on Sky yesterday, Watkins has transferred to a genuine striker without any problems, and is the Championships leading scorer,  fingers crossed we can make to the promised land, if not expect a bidding war to break out at the end of the season for those two.

At least you are making some progress, I think you will make it, Just.

21 hours ago, useless said:

Brentford hardly spent any more whilst Smith was there, and this summer after he left they spent £30m, more than any other championship club, my point being that that's a big part of the reason they're doing so well now, not because Smith has left.

I think it's a bit of both, with regards to DS spending money and him leaving us, after selling Maupay and the like we made £35m from those sales, we invested very well in 5 new players, leaving us £5m profit, the other reason is that DS was always reluctant to change his defensive set up and we suffered from it, after a shaky start with new players bedding in Thomas Frank has changed our defensive style of play (something DS failed to do time and time again) so much so, that we now have the best defensive record in the Championship, shoring up a leaking defense is a definite improvement since DS left us.

Taken from a report from a good Danish media site with regards to Emre Mor who I believe was mentioned on here a few times

Reports from Denmark explain the Bees are convinced with the wideman’s qualities as a footballer, Despite that, they go on to mention Mor having difficulties in adjusting at his previous clubs, Borussia Dortmund and Celta Vigo, and the same has happened at Galatasaray, It’s claimed Thomas Frank’s side have not received positive responses internally or externally about the Denmark-born Turkey international so far. 

Brentford have a Danish manager and a handful of players from the same country in their squad, one who has played with him at Celta Vigo,  According to the report, the Danish players at Brentford are concerned about Mor potentially being their teammate at Griffin Park, Therefore, Brentford have ended negotiations to sign Mor in the winter market, if true, due diligence seems to have been the order of the day.!!!