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Oh it is possible not every fighter of course but majority is possible to kill the party or organization of Hamas is possible. Practical? either go to war destroy terrorist party who is controlling your neighboring country or what? what else more practical thing left to do i dont know no one knows that why this is a mess for 70 years. I dont think concerning yourself about radicalization of the population when they already radicalized is practical or reasonable. They govern by terrorist party who was elected democratically in 2006 they dont try to overthrow it and they dance in the streets on 911 and London bus bombings no one is concerned about their radicalization at this point. No my question is as its supposed to be because im 100% convinced that there are people who think that Israel cant fight back or punch back or do anything because they are racist occupying force. more specifically targeted actions what exactly does this mean? using international support what exactly does this mean. targeted hit squads and special forces this is nonsense. You cant send special forces into densely populated city with population who wants to kill you. Mogadishu 1993

International condemnation of Hamas. Oh my god terrorists who bomb themselves and kill women and children are shaking from fear of it . How no one thought about that before... ISIS unlucky Dialogue they kill your people and you suggest dialogue what else a fire pit holding each other hands and dance around the fire and sing kumbaya? childish nonsense. So if IRA tomorrow does a terrorist act and kills 4000 people in london you would suggest dialoge and international condemnation? are you joking me.

"wow what brave answer" to a question no one asked. Can you tell me now how many civilian deaths would be justified or acceptable in your view if israel wants to destroy 30 000 or 40 000 terrorists?

Yes i think if you are occupied you can fight against occupiers military infrastructure and soldiers. There are other fighting methods besides violence. I think its very clearl that palestine didint apply seriously any other method only violence. I think crazy radical zionist jewish settlers in west bank is occupying force and should be forcefully kicked out ASAP. I dont think israel as a whole is occupying force because i dont think there was a country before israel in there. I can understand if people say there were palestinian villages and their land was occupied but im not living in fantasy land and i understand how countries are born and i understand that if you not prepared to build a country someone else will. Do you think Palestine population support Hamas? if no what are you basing that opinion on?

I can put words into your mouth too. This guy just called a terrorist act where civilian population were targeted a combat situation. Its funny that you will say to me that i dont understand other people positions where you actually have no idea what i believe and what is my position. The first sentence alone i literally half an hour ago wrote that i dont count or look at the situation like that. So look at the mirror and apply your advice to yourself about trying to understand other people position. Oh and i see you liked that SNE comment with answer ZERO. you want to elaborate?

So these people will not answer the questions.. They will signal here for a immediate cease fire by non stop writing about civilian deaths. Its because their answer to the question how much civilian deaths would be acceptable or justified is 0 or 1000 such an unrealistic small number that it signals that israel should or cant do nothing. And that is the whole point these people dont think that Israel can fight back or try to destroy Hamas. They think its occupying racist force and they think Palestinians have the right to fight back through Hamas. Its dog-whistling stop ignoring it and call them out and ask these difficult questions to these people. 1.So if israel says they want to destroy hamas 30 000-40 000 terrorists in gaza. How many civilian deaths would be justified or acceptable? 2.What justifiable acceptable actions could Israel take after october 7?

So you asked a difficult question and i answered. I asked you one question already two times you not answering it. Im not asking is there a good answer to the question and if there is no good answer you still can give me an answer. If number is zero and war always requires civilian deaths in your opinion what Israel had to do after October 7? nothing?

So same question to you. So if israel says they want to destroy hamas 30 000-40 000 terrorists in gaza. How many civilian deaths would be justified or acceptable?

how many one israeli life worth to me? i dont count it like that. I see a terrorist organization who needs to be destroyed i see 40 0000 terrorists who needs to be destroyed i would say for me 80 000 civilian casualties deaths would be acceptable or justified. Can you now answer the question? If number is zero and war always requires civilian deaths in your opinion what Israel had to do after October 7? nothing?

So fantasy world... If number is zero and war always requires civilian deaths in your opinion what Israel had to do after October 7? nothing?

So if israel says they want to destroy hamas 30 000-40 000 terrorists in gaza. How many civilian deaths would be justified or acceptable? I dont think anyone in this forum answered this question once.

Oh come on now they have to demonize Israel somehow right?

So i think at this point no one is denying that Israel is kinda callous to Palestinian deaths I think everyone saw it already in 2004 so its nothing new. They hate each other and are mortal enemies its not very difficult to understand why. Your questions 1and 2 are not real questions. You simplified them and removed critical very important information. So i will ask the question with the important context and i will answer it. And can you answer this question below? If Hamas captured my city with 40 000 armed fighters dug tunnels around the city and mined the roads around with IEDs and is using my house as a military base to wage war against my country with my family in it. Would i say that my government would be justified to bomb the house? YES. would i like it? NO.

If im not mistaken every neighboring country made declarations or documents or promises to destroy Israel. And in all of the Israel wars United States never ever directly send their army to fight for Israel they only give money.

What do you think my position about Netanyahu and settlers and Zionism is? Can you tell me?

Pro-Palestinian rally at Cooper Union leads to tense moments at school library - CBS New York (cbsnews.com)

@Mic09 no you cant follow the conversation original question was you actually changed and hijacked discussion and made it everything about israel. i think everyone can see it by reading.

no the original question was about irans influence of the arab world. can you actually quote me that question you talking about the israeli intentions in the geopolitical game in the arab world?

The harsh reality is no one likes Palestinians im talking about the Arab countries who surround them. Not Egypt not Jordan no one likes them because every time one of those countries take Palestinian refugees they do some crazy shit. Killing kings or prime ministers taking over the government kidnaping planes bombings. Everywhere they go they try to influence or force the country who took them and helped them to fight against Israel. Every Arab country who is now "crying" for Palestinian civilian casualties are virtue signaling with intent to make themselves look like victims and Israel look like evil aggressor against muslims. Those countries have no real intention to help Palestine or their people. It wont affect their trade or cooperation relationship or if it will they will normalize relationships pretty fast because they don't care about palestine.

Whoa same i got triggered too good job calling that stuff out.

Uh oh Jewish conspiracy theories here we go. Whats next? Soros? jews control media? world economic forum? go ahead dont be shy. Your follow up question trying to paint me as outsider who is not interested in the team here read this. Othering is the process of portraying someone as fundamentally different from or inferior to the group they belong to. It can involve emphasizing perceived differences in race, ethnicity, nationality, beliefs, or other factors to create a sense of "us" versus "them." thats exactly what you just did using villa i think thats disgusting. The point of this tactic to alienate person from the group so everyone can gang up and push that person out . nice try not gonna work. Yes yes my first language is not English you want to shame me for that seriously go ahead? i think im trying my best and i think my statements are pretty clear and understandable. It puts you on the list? yah dude you are "very important". I think your comment is like actually disgusting shame on you.

I would like to do more balanced posts but i cant i feel very uncomfortable doing it because of people like you. Because this forum is full of people who are actually demonizing Israel minimizing what they suffered or justifying Hamas actions. (Yes yes no one sees it i know that the official line). I can point it out for three days and still no one sees it. It really reminds me of white supremacist forums where they dog whistle 24/7 and pretend that no one is saying what they are actually saying. wink wink. I think you are propagandist or act like one because: 1: You are talking about the situation absolutely one sided. You will acknowledge that people died from terrorist attacks and its bad for a sentence or two i think this is your defense to appear not one sided its not working. Then you proceed to do walls of text a one sided commentary. 2. You demonize israel. Statements that their main concern is a land grab. Statements they refuse to take hostages. Statements that they actually want hostages dead. 3. Selective information and quoting. You will put an effort to provide something but your summary will be one sided unfair you will ignore or distort facts to fit the Israel evil narrative. To laugh at Israels security concerns and to just dismiss that they are surrounded by all sides with hundreds of millions of people who hate them and want them to not exist is very very telling.

These videos you posting is not even close to the framing you wrote. I think you lied when you said that this framing was from a video. Are you just going to pretend that you provided videos with the framing? Oh and the first NBC video 1:29 directly shows the criticism of your insane dishonest framing.

@VILLAMARV i dont think you are being honest i think you playing the game. If anyone interested i suggest to read that conversation. I would agree that you butchered that MLK quote extremely and i think you butchered it in that way because you wanted to support the idea of justification and calling the terrorist attack a riot or minimize it. For you to say that im quoting you out of context is dishonest because i quoted you before this exchange with your full quote and statements. I wanted to show what my rationalization is so i took in my opinion problematic parts and wanted to explain my thinking. I think if you read the whole conversation my rationalization makes even better sense.

yesterday i gave my opinion about the conflict solution pretty clearly you can find it i believe in you. @Thug where is that video?