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It's not the same as watching Kimi beat HAM and ALO by a few points for the title but if you pretend Merc and RB (well, Max) don't exist this season has been really exciting, Formula 1.5 I think seems to be the joke name for it. Obviously if the battle for 3rd in the constructors was a battle for 1st instead the excitement would be ten-fold but it's still nice to watch 3 or 4 teams battling so closely over a season.

Stroll was the only driver from RP, Renault, McLaren not really pulling his weight this season and then bam, sticks it on pole round an ice rink in a monsoon. All that training with Rob Wilson seems to have really paid off.

I think the set up that worked so well for them in quali and then the first stint was probably the cause of his pace falling off a cliff but it definitely added some excitement to the race.

1 hour ago, Follyfoot said:

To eulogise about him on here is deeply offensive. Tantamount to talking all night to your wife about an ex girlfriend.

Surely this analogy is more akin to them talking about Bellingham, an ex player who left them for something better as fast as his legs would carry him.

3 hours ago, alreadyexists said:

Still loving this, going to watch the full 90  again tonight I think

Good idea, will help bleach that Southgate system performance from my retinas

46 minutes ago, villa4europe said:

Literally this player as a boy 5 years ago

I'm about the 89th minute he ended up at LB clipped a ball over the top in to space, he did that 5 years ago vs I want to say Norwich and gabby ran on to it and scored a great goal, tonight it was Declan Rice in space and ended up in **** all... And by **** all I mean 15 seconds later grealish somehow popping up on edge of their box with the ball

Quaterback 

He's the quarter back who is also the best running back and the best wide receiver in the team

34 minutes ago, Follyfoot said:

Gentlemen we have just witnessed the birth of a superstar

I've had this thought at about 12 different times with Grealish, I think each time was actually more akin to stages in the life cycle of an actual star. But they are happening faster and faster.

His performances in the 10 win run, dragging us to safety, destroying Liverpool, first England start MOTM, Destroying Arsenal, first competitive England start MOTM.

He's gone through nebula, protostar, star, red giant. Everyone is raving about him. He'll go full supernova in the Euros I think.

Winks on for Henderson. Game changer that Gareth mate

40 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

I think a lot depends on how he does this season. Continues with these numbers and then sets the euros alight is there a chance a Real Madrid or Barca could come in for him?

Barca can hardly afford to keep the lights on at the minute.

If he keeps up his ridiculous >1 goal involvement per game through the season and the Euros you would have to imagine either Real come in if they can't get Mbappe or PSG come in for him as a replacement.

Long way to go before we have to worry about that though.

11 hours ago, KenjiOgiwara said:

Isn't it kinda what we did with Konsa? 

Haha you're dead right, and for a fraction of the price. **** Leicester 

All the more impressive because we managed to do it as part of a complete rebuild in a single transfer window.

Now if we can do the same again with understudies for Luiz and Barkley in case they leave that would be super

17 hours ago, Genie said:

I watched the extra time and pens in the Scotland game and one thing really concerned me. Several of the Scotland players with a moustache.

This guy looks like he got lost on the way to the darts

 

He looks like the brother of the main guy in Peaky Blinders, the one who can't do the accent

8 hours ago, Philosopher said:

All this cover stuff i don't like, especially when we are probably a midtable team at best.

If we sign a CB we have to be thinking buy a player at least good enough to threaten Mings and Konsas place  In the team. Or a younger player we believe will become a top player. 

A left back with the potential to oust targett.

This is exactly the tact I'm hoping we'll employ, like Leicester with Soyuncu. £20m at 22, had to sit on the bench for a year, then comes in to the team to replace Maguire and is a revelation. I think they planned to do the same with Fofana (£30m at 19) but injuries forced their hand and he's already playing a key role.

That's the ideal way to evolve a team into challengers imo.

53 minutes ago, rodders0223 said:

Undr the Cosh podcast exclusive.

Lambert once told Chris Brown at Blackburn that Grealish was absolute shite.

 

Bought Tonev this **** word removed.

Fantastic, could I trouble you for the episode and a rough time stamp?

Moved every other **** game except ours, obviously realised we're too powerful when we get the Sunday night spot. Given it to 2 of our Sunday night victims instead.

20 minutes ago, PaulC said:

Salah now tested positive. When it rains it pours

I wonder how he caught it...

53 minutes ago, abdulaziz1 said:

I would mind seeing Davis coming for Trez, and shifting Watkins back to the wing.

Watkins was on a hat trick though so why not keep it simple and bring on Elmo at RB, then move Cash to CM, McGinn to RW, Trez to LW, Grealish to CAM and take Barkley off?

Probably just me but I always imagine suggestions for changes that move a player playing very well out of position to accommodate someone not playing well being written on a noticeboard covered in string and drawing pins.

4 minutes ago, messi11 said:

Pointless signing. 

He's played 200 minutes so far (scoring 1 goal) out of less than 10 games the club have played since he signed.

Konsa played 15 minutes in our first 11 league games, was he a pointless signing at that point too?

"Bertrand Traore and Ross Barkley are very good players and they will offer Villa something extra" - Jurgen Klopp

7 minutes ago, Kingman said:

One in six chance this stays as Saturday 3pm.

If as previous weekends then could possibly be... 

7.15pm - TBC

Winks hasn't played a single minute for Spurs since he came on for 15 minutes to protect their 3-0 lead against West Ham and they **** drew.

An example of the form you need to be in to get into this side.

5 minutes ago, darrenm said:

Barkley should really be there instead of Winks

I think Barkley should be in there instead of Maguire, then they could play 4-2-3-1 instead of this awful 5-2-3

59 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

I'm just referring to his style of play. That he scored most of his goals in the box is immaterial, he was a striker, that's to be expected. By that logic, we could say he's similar to Jermaine Defore as well, which obviously isn't true. You could tell from the way he and Ollie play. Ollie plays like a pacy winger that was converted to a CF, and RvP played more like a second striker/ACM that was converted to a CF

I don't really agree to be honest, you're right RVP did play second striker/ No. 10 a bit for Feyenoord (not as much as he played CF I don't think) but he was never amazing there, whereas at his best he played like the archetypal complete CF imo, as does Watkins. On the shoulder and dropping deep, multiple times a game. Also >20% of his goals with both weaker foot and his head, unlike Defoe and most other strikers. The only reason I pointed out how few goals he scored from outside the area was because that was used as an example of something he did that Watkins doesn't. Plenty of players who are unlike them scored a far larger percentage from range.

1 hour ago, Keyblade said:

 Like I said, Ollie reminds me of Gabby when he played through the middle, with the predatory instincts of Bent, but with way more ability than both as you say. Again, I'm just referring to style here.

I think that is massively underplaying OW's competence with his weaker foot, his proficiency in the air, the power and quality with which he strikes the ball with both feet and the amount of problems his work rate causes defenders. I think the RVP hat trick game you mentioned was a perfect example of something similar. He ran our defence ragged with his movement which gave their other players room to create chances for him.

We're probably just going to have to agree to disagree though. I'm aware the comparison I made is overly complimentary and bordering on ridiculous.

Like you I'm just talking about the style, the style in which he strikes the ball, moves, finds space, works the channels, can take any type of chance, occupies defenders.

38 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

RvP started as a #10, it's only later in his career that he started playing as a poacher.

He played a bit as a second striker but he was still making runs in behind more than playing between the lines. Actually I'm pretty sure he quite often played as a left winger in his early years. Sound like anyone else? 

38 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

He scored all kinds of goals.

Agreed, left foot, right foot, headers, <10% outside the box, >60% inside the 6 yard box. Like Watkins.

38 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

Think about his hat trick against us at Old Trafford. Ollie just can't do that yet.

You're right he can't, but only because all 3 of the **** should've been ruled out for offside! Watkins will need to wait for VAR to be removed to score an offside hattrick.

Jokes aside the first was a poachers goal in the 6 yard box, and the last was great composure under some pressure like Watkins' first against Liverpool. The volleyed banger admittedly is something I haven't seen yet but it'll come I'm sure. He struck one a bit similar last season for Brentford but not first time on the run. I can't remember who against, I think it would've been the right of the two stars outside the box.

Edit - Here it is, filmed on a potato

38 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

Ollie is like a mix between Gabby and Darren Bent.

He's got far more link up and hold up ability than both imho. Also he's two footed and covers loads more ground. And better first touch.

4 minutes ago, handsworthvilla said:

Don't see it at all. 

RVP had a wand of a left peg, could score curlers from range, take free kicks etc 

AFAIK in his entire 492 game career RVP scored 10 free kicks, just 6 in the PL.

Harder to find the stats for his whole career but <10% of his PL goals were from outside the box, including the free kicks.

I think Watkins 2nd goal against Liverpool showed he can find the top corner, even though that one was only from 13 yards. I expect him to chip in with the odd one from further out but it's not a major part of either's game.

Also >60% of RVP's goals came from within the 6 yard box, which I expect to be similar to Watkins going forward.

Again, not saying he's near that level yet. Just that his playing style reminds me of him.

6 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said:

It's very rare to see a striker being so versatile. He works hard, he's capable of going wide, going deep, runs the channels, good hold-up play, scores with his right left and head. Even converted a penalty the Brentford fans claims he is awful at. 

I'm slightly confused what striker you can compare him to. Klinsmann? 

I've thought this all season but I've kept it to myself because saying it out loud or writing it down makes me sound ridiculous.

He reminds me of RVP.

As you say he's deadly with both feet, strong in the air despite not being enormous, quick, willing to drop into space, covers absolute acres of ground. Are we describing Watkins here or RVP?

Admittedly this is slightly tongue in cheek as he's clearly not as good (yet) but if we're trying to find a striker with a similar play style RVP is the man imho.

45 minutes ago, MaVilla said:

So....is his primary foot his left or right foot?

I think right?!?!

It's definitely his right, he took the penalty with it but his left is among the strongest I've seen. Vardy is possibly the only striker in the league with a stronger weak foot.