Stratvillan

I think Tammy is massively underrated. An interchanging forward line of jack, Tammy and ollie, with Anwar and Wes as back ups subs etc would be immense.

I think we are all fixed on a type of winger because of Morley Walters Daley etc I think we ll go for a more fluid forward line.

Think cash has been really good going forward.

Just now, thabucks said:

When would you try them then ? Next season when stadiums are full and we have something to play for ? Over playing them now slowly introducing them to the first team with less pressure and no fans ? Most fans wouldnt want El Ghazi anywhere near the first XI next season so why not play JBP ? 

When they are ready. Playing against 18 year olds is not the same as playing in the prem. Bellingham etc are the exception not the rule.

Just now, Delphinho123 said:

Davis and Ramsey aren’t untested and playing maybe one other for 30 mins at the end would be fine.

 

Ramsey I agree

Davis I dont.

I think both are totally unproven however.

26 minutes ago, TRO said:

Probably, winning 5 in 20 games, but i can't speak for the rest.

But why throw totally untested kids in - if the theory is they can't do any worse that's bizarre.

I'm not sure what everyone is basing starting the youngsters on, other than they're not el gahzi et al.

Solid. Would have started Ramsey over Barkeley. Would like to see pg at some point. Looking at the bench, the options are limited.

19 minutes ago, tom_avfc said:

This thread is turning me off football almost as much as the Super League farce.

Im not sure I can justify the cost of a season ticket to spend 19 matches of football in the company of a fan base that has become so entitled.

I genuinely thought a couple of years in the championship might have humbled us a bit but no we’re now calling for a manager who’s taken us from 14th in the championship to 11th in the premier league in 2 and a bit seasons to go.

Spot on.

Spot on.

Spot on.

Just now, rodders0223 said:

Gives Wes 4 minutes. You couldn't make it up.

What a sub, distracts the defenders!

Super Smith!

Lacking any real quality in the final third.

At the risk of being hounded, I don't think we ve played terribly.

(runs for cover).

3 minutes to melt down!

I agree, with elmo leaving, I'd play kesler. Just think that if Ramsey starts in mid, playing chuk or Barry would be too much. If Jack was playing it'd be different.

There's nothing wrong with giving them time, and I'd like to see Barry,Chuk and Ramsey all involved st some point tonight.

If we throw them all in from the start and we get heavily beaten, that's not going to help them in the long term. 

8 hours ago, flashingqwerty said:

I saw the game, and they played better and worked harder than we did tonight

I was on about the leeds man City game.

4 minutes ago, flashingqwerty said:

Noone told Leeds.  

Did you watch the game or just see the result and construct your own narrative?

1 minute ago, turvontour said:

No but that's the point. It wasnt that we couldn't lay a boot on them. They gave us an advantage and we messed it up. We were getting on top before Cash moment of madness. 

Sorry it's not you specifically its loads of comments. When we lose to a bigger team the same lines are rolled out over how superior the opposition are.

If we'd lost the 7-2 against Liverpool 2-0, then youd have had loads of posts saying "they're the champions" "we didnt stand a chance" "it was a free hit" "these arent the sort of teams we should get points from". Wouldnt mind so much if wed beat likes of Sheff U and Newcastle.

Don't disagree with a lot if what you say. Theres a danger of being O'Leary and accepting defeats.

The criticism I'd have is our lack of a genuine press. I think that comes from fear of being ripped apart.

I'd argue the advantage of the red card lasted so Short  it was meaningless.

Can any of the 7 people who voted Smith as very poor explain why?

He made the subs most people would have.

He made attacking changes.

I don't get the judgements. 

Just now, turvontour said:

I really dont get these comments. Leeds literally just beat them, with fewer players.

Everyone knows how much money they've spent. It was a bad performance from us. Should have got a point given we started a goal up and they played most the game with ten men.

Leeds have spent she'd loads its it a myth they haven't.

How long did the 10 man advantage last tonight?

1 minute ago, AVFCDAN said:

Tell that to Leeds and Bielsa then because they didn’t get the memo.

Games like today really make me question Smith as a top level coach, what was our plan today because from start to finish it didn’t seem like we had one to me.

I don't need to. I watched the game. Leeds sat with their team in their own box and let man City shoot at will. 99/100 man City would have won. 

Just now, villalad21 said:

Rather that than never having the ball like us

You know where they play, it's not far from Leeds.

3 minutes ago, villalad21 said:

Boring when they need to be

It's called good game management

I'm not commenting on the effectiveness, but it's shit to watch.

Luiz is really poor......again.

Just now, villalad21 said:

Smithball