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9 hours ago, bobzy said:

I don't understand this at all.  His dream job comes up and he is being classless by having the nerve to accept it?  What?

Obviously if the same thing happened to them 3 months into a job then Villa came after them then they'd definitely turn it down.... Nope of course they wouldn't. 

If i was in Bruce's position and Villa came after me I'd accept the Villa offer without hesitation.

4 hours ago, villalad21 said:

The tea thing is just some banter.

What is the big deal? Get over it

There isn't a big deal it's just the snowflake twitter generation we have now,  I didn't see it but if i did i would have laughed.

7 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

Hull City managed by Steve Bruce faced them in the final the year before. Their performance was light years from ours.

The reason it was so bad for Aston Villa that particular time was because Tim Sherwood had the brilliant tactical idea of playing a suicidally high defensive line containing Ron Vlaar and Jores Okore against Arsenal. I've never seen a team so thoroughly dismantled in my life. It just had to be Villa.

Again as i said Arsenal under Wenger on their day could do what they did to us to anybody.  yes they struggled Vs Hull the year before Arsenal under Wenger were one of those teams that could embarrass themselves for example Vs Blues in the league cup but were more than capable to tear a team several arseholes. 

Yeah had we gone after them in that game we could have got something but equally they could have scored so many that Man City wouldn't have the record for biggest FA Cup Final victory.

Anyway for the record i'm not saying Sherwood is any good i'm just saying that he's better than Lambert because he got us to the final, whereas Lambert lost over 2 legs to league 2 Bradford City how you can say losing to a team that had at that point never failed to qualify for the Champions League under Wenger is more embarrassing than Bradford is utter madness. Also lets not forget Lambert changed his footballing philosophy every time he returned from Germany.

1 hour ago, Keyblade said:

As individual experiences, the FA Cup final was the most humiliating for me. With Bradford, the result was more embarrassing than anything. 

I know who Black was, but he was nothing more than a caretaker manager. I don't even consider him to be a Villa manager.

Bradford was so much more embarrassing than the FA Cup Final as lets face it on there day under Wenger Arsenal could do that to anyone. Bradford was so much more embarrassing it's practically impossible to compare. 

1 hour ago, Keyblade said:

I'm not defending him. I'm saying he's not worse than Sherwood, who is quite easily bottom of the pile. Not even a manager.

Who tf even was Eric Black? Shouldn't even be on the list imo.

So someone who managed to get a premier league team to lose over 2 legs to a team 3 leagues below then (last professional league) is worse than a manager who got us to an FA Cup Final that's some logic. 

Sherwood Vs Lambert isn't about who's better it's more a case of who's less crap. 

Eric Black was our manager after Garde and as has been mentioned managed for a similar time as Sherwood so that is the reason he is on the list.

58 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

He literally just got announced that day, and was in the stands during the match. He met the players in the dressing room at halftime. His first real match as manager was against West Brom in the QF.

Lambert had a reputation as one of the most promising young managers in English football, having promoted Norwich back to back and finished 12th in the PL in their first season. Had nothing to do with McLeish or Sherwood. He was highly rated when he came to us. He also managed to keep us up twice on the most embarrassing PL budget in recent memory. His legacy isn't much better or worse than McLeish or Houllier.

Tim Sherwood's reputation was that he had a lot of pashun and was caretaker manager at Spurs for a few months. What has he done since then? Exactly. They guy is just not a football manager. He managed to slick talk his way into our job and a couple of results but it quickly unraveled. He's a total fraud.

Paul Lambert managed to lose to Bradford City over 2 legs who were in League 2.  tbh i've just read that out loud and i'm considering changing things and putting him behind Eric Black.

How you can defend Paul Lambert after that embarrassment is astonishing.  

7 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said:

So you're suggesting that Sherwood was basically given players that ultimately failed at the club, without choice?

No I'm saying that the players he was given could have succeeded had he not brought wasters like Richards and Lescott.

4 hours ago, kurtsimonw said:

He also kept us up. And it turns out the majority of his signings that summer were pretty solid, they mostly play at the top level. I don't think he was a good manager, far from it.

As for Bruce, I'm not one of those that say his good points don't count. We were in the bottom 3 when TS took over, and we stopped up. To me, that's an achievement. He also lost Benteke, which was completely out of control. Then the signings of the likes of Adama, Amavi, Veretout, Gana and Ayew - it's not like he threw the money away. Yes, some might say Adama is useless, but the fact is he moved for a decent fee and plays in the Premier League still. I personally think Amavi is one of the worst performers I've seen at the club (in the Championship, no less), but he still plays at the top level.

Sherwood is a poor manager, I don't argue that, and he's one of the worst managers in my life time. The main reason for that being he got nothing out of the squad, which had a bunch of talented players. But Garde didn't either.

You're kidding right?  the signings that were his was Lescott, Richards (the Winners in his words) and Gestede. Lescott and Richards were the ones that poisoned the dressing room and Gestede was just useless. The players that weren't his signings Amavi, Veretout, Gana and Ayew were actually the better players but needed was experienced pros (of the John Terry mould) but what they got was Lescott, Richards and Gabby. As i said the ONLY reason he isn't joint bottom for me is the FA Cup Final.

For Me it's:

Smith (No explanation needed)

Houllier (could have taken us forward had it not been for his heart)

Bruce (reignited my passion for villa after so many years of shit had extinguished it)

Garde (as other have said has he started the season we'd probably not gone down as he wouldn't have signed the players that poisoned the barrel)

McLeish (got exactly what you new you'd get from him and if my memory serves me right we never dropped into the relegation zone with him)

Sherwood (would be joint bottom without the FA Cup Final)

Lambert (finally killed off my passion for Villa)

RDM (spent a fortune and had us scrapping at the wrong end of the championship)

Black (took charge when we were already down but unlike when Darren Moore took over West Brom in a similar situation didn't even try to go down with a little bit of pride which is unforgivable)

5 hours ago, kurtsimonw said:

Problem here is refs can be very sure of a decision, so wouldn't ask VAR. Even if ultimately their decision is wrong.

If that happens then the TMO if he's viewed it differently on his screen (given that generally you get a better view on TV) then he'll step in and advise the Ref he has got it wrong because the TMO is there to assist the Ref come to the correct decision.  It doesn't always work but nothing will ever be faultless,  imo Rugby has a better system but that doesn't mean that wrong decisions aren't made because they are nothing can correct all the time.

It should work better and quicker in football then in Rugby tbh as you have goal line technology so doesn't need to be used for that and offside only needs 1 replay. For penalties or red cards you only really need to see 1 or 2 different angles in football to get a clearer picture of whats happened whereas in Rugby a lot of the time it's called upon there is 10 to 15 men on top of the ball so takes up a lot of time looking at different angle to try and see the ball.

For anyone who is concerned that it'll kill the goal celebrations the reality could be that it makes it better because if a goal is reviewed and it stands then you get the chance to celebrate that goal twice and if the goal does get disallowed then it's only like celebrating a goal then finding out it's been ruled offside etc.. so it's not like it'll change that dramatically.

So just to clear things up us football fans moan when the ref makes an incorrect decision, and when they get something that will help them make a correct decision football fans moan about that as well. 

The TMO in rugby isn't always correct as perfection is impossible but it just cuts down on the amount of incorrect decisions that are made. The problem with VAR is that unlike the TMO in rugby which is 1 person in the stands whereas VAR is a committee (this is what is wrong with it imo) 

The TMO doesn't get involved with every decision it's only used if the ref asks for it when the ref is unsure (if the TMO isn't sure then it's the refs decision that stands as he's the one that is in charge) the only time the TMO gets involved without the ref asking is when he sees something that the ref has clearly missed.

In short football needs to ditch the current VAR system and adopt the TMO system.

4 hours ago, rbcuk said:

Just looked at the villa support twitter page someone asked when they are out for sale, they come back with - We have no details on when the waiting list will begin. Please keep an eye on the website all the details will be placed on there

My God they answer every question with that, they may as well close down that twitter account as it's as useful as a Birmingham City chairman 

On 28/06/2019 at 08:43, Robbie09 said:

I’ve attended 95% of the away games for the last 20 years, and for the last 12 years my 2 lads have travelled with me to games. I’ve not been a member of the away scheme as I couldn’t stretch to the fee at the time they went on sale last season. 

Forking out for 3 tickets for each away game, 2 of which are for most games classed as adult tickets is costly to say the least so I’d be pretty cheesed off if there wasn’t a loyalty scheme in place.

I understand this makes it difficult for those that haven’t built up a history of away games but what other options are there?

The away season ticket last season you didn't have to pay for every away game as if you couldn't attend or afford to attend you just didn't buy a ticket. As you brought a ticket like everyone else you were just first in line, you didn't automatically receive the ticket like the previous away scheme,

This is why I can't understand why Villa are trying to change it as you brought the away season ticket if you knew you'd go to most if not all the games and if you couldn't you just didn't buy a ticket. So it wasn't like you sent it back meaning the club would have to resell it which could mean people missed out, last season no one missed out if you didn't go because the ticket was never allocated to anyone in the away season ticket.

2 hours ago, terrytini said:

I’m not entirely sure what you mean here ?

Prior to the start of last season the Scheme was changed so that there was no minimum requirement. The Club just said they would monitor it and if anyone returned “ an excessive amount” they’d “ look at it”.

But.....

...the whole point is that we no longer know HOW they will operate it.

The only clue so far is that they scrapped the History requirement for the friendlies. 

Thats why there is a concern .

To be honest the ticket office is a shambles at the moment I've tweeted them asking for an update regarding the away scheme and all I get is a stock answer saying to keep checking the website. 

The fact that we are 6 weeks away from the start of the season and they haven't announced this is shocking and shows that the ticket office needs an overhaul. 

1 hour ago, terrytini said:

As for your certainty you won’t be refused that’s the whole point - how do you know ? If they don’t set any criteria at all you would have no certainty .

I went to about 19 games but am not at all sure in the way you are.

I think when they suddenly changed the rules a few weeks into the season the rule is that you'd have to have been to 75% of games 

On 25/06/2019 at 12:59, terrytini said:

Well, if so, that’s a relief. Thanks for posting, I’ve not been able to find anything !

I completely agree with the thinking, if that’s what they mean, but, fans were told last Season that they could return as many as they wanted, without sanction....so that’s partly the Clubs fault.

As @Rugeley Villasays, the easiest thing would be to simply go on games attended....15/12/9 ( although because last year was 25 Away games I’d start at higher than 15 ) they could change amount each day or near enough so shouldnt  hold sales up.

 

Tickets were never sent back with the away season ticket last season, as you never got the ticket automatically you brought them like everyone else it's just you were 1st in line so all it was, was a queue jump.

It wasn't like the old away scheme where you automatically got the ticket and had to send it back then the club had 5o resell it.  So anyone on the away scheme last season that didn't go meant that it made it easier for a fan who wasn't on the scheme to get the ticket.

Doesn't bother me tbh as I won't be refused this season as i went to pretty much all the games last season.

1 hour ago, Zatman said:

Not you unless you are trying to tell us something

No, i just questioned Smith during our bad run (in no way did i say i wanted him gone or anything anywhere near that) i just read too much into your comment.

I'm glad that Smith has more than answered the questions i had about him, he's performed miracles because he's even got me softening to John Terry and that is something i thought was impossible lol.

6 hours ago, Zatman said:

That villa "fan" that only ever posted here when we lost last season has surprisingly disappeared 

If this was aimed at me i haven't the reason i haven't posted in ages is because of a job change I've hardly had any spare time, I've just about managed to have time to get to games (luckily i was able to) although I'm sure I was still posting when we were winning tbh 

24 minutes ago, KentVillan said:

In the long term, yes, the score is all that matters. In the short term, if you just use the score to measure the ability of a manager, you will miss a lot of the nuance -- was his team being dominated, was there an unlucky bounce, or a bad refereeing decision?

This focus on short-term results is how Alex McLeish has a Premier League Manager of the Month award.

You also seem completely deluded that Dean Smith's bad results have been mainly down to his bad decisions, and his good results mainly down to good decisions. That's a dramatic improvement over the course of a month isn't it? Or maybe, just maybe, football's more complicated than the "FFS PASS IT FORWARD" fans realise.

Point 1) Considering it's a results business wins are what the managers ability will be measured on as if he doesn't get wins he will end up Sacked it's as simple as that.  You can go on about all the other bullshit you spoke about but it's just that bullshit because win games manager keeps his job loses games manager will get the sack.

Point 2) Maybe you need to learn how to read education isn't as good as it used to be I suppose.  I'll try and dumb it down for you,  I'll Criticise Smith when he makes mistakes (which he has done) but I'll Also Praise when he gets things right.  If you are still struggling to understand it's best you go ask a teacher to explain.

On 10/03/2019 at 14:22, villalad21 said:

Oh sorry forgot you're not allowed to be critical or disagree with Smith's decisions if we win on this site.

Hadn't Grealish scored on that wonder strike it would been another draw and you would have a whole different tune. That's the problem with the majority of the fans on here, they don't actually analyze the game, they are so stuck up on the scoreline and ignore everything else.

You do understand football don't you?  You do realise the scoreline is the only stat that'll determine where we end up in the league you can analyse the game all you want but the only thing that matters in football is we scored 1 to the oppositions 0.

Also for the record I have criticised Smith in the past and was right to do so when he made errors in our poor run but I will also praise him when he gets things right, which imo he did vs Blues, he didn't change the side that destroyed Derby which was the correct decision because it says that he'll pick on form and not just his favourites.  Whelan did a good job he kept things tight you say he could have cost us the game I don't see how because despite Blues having lots of the ball they didn't really do anything with it and we had the best of the chances.  Then when Blues had tired out he put McGinn on and they just didn't have the legs to deal with that.  Smith got the line up and sub spot on Vs Blues. 

7 hours ago, Dave-R said:

That attack was absoloute disgusting on Grealish. It's true what hendrie said with all the knife crime going on in the country it could of been anything in his hands ither than a punch..

City will no doubt get fined for that, not enough protection on and off the pitch.

Glad Jack got the goal, we need to keep him regardless of whether we go up or not. Grealish deserved the captain's armband but glad it got passed to Mings when he went off because he's so calm and takes charge of those around him.

No doubt the attack on Grealish will overshadow the win over city which is a shame.

I don't see it as a shame i see it as finally the nation see them for what they are.

1 minute ago, Zatman said:

Lansbury and Bolasie wages combined was way north of 100k a week. Bolasie got about 2 million for doing nothing here. Bjarnason, Neil Taylor arent playing for peanuts either

McCormack how much has he been paid for doing nothing? £12.87 million signed so that's 10 million more than Bolasie right from the start and i'd imagine it's more than 2 million since we signed him for doing nothing here.

1 minute ago, Zatman said:

Di Matteo had 10/12 games. He might have turned it around more than likely not but what idiot gives a blank cheque to a manager then has no patience

I'm not quite sure why you mention RDMs 11 games in charge as that doesn't match what i said.  I said it's strange you brought up Bruce as the cause of the financial problems when between Bruce and RDM, RDM was the one that spent more,  RDM brought McCormack for £12.87 million, Tshibola £5.31 Million and Gollini £4.50 Million who all flopped that's £22.68 million wasted on players that flopped and that isn't including wages.  Whereas the only flop Bruce had was Hogan who cost around £9..45.  So I think you'll find RDM was far more wasteful than Bruce

On 02/03/2019 at 13:41, DCJonah said:

This is the result of our financial advantage over the league being trusted to Bruce and overseen by a complete fraud. 

Thanks to both of them

weird you'd mention Bruce when i think you'll find RDM spent more than Bruce.