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It’s not the worst outcome for jack. If England fail (as expected) he’ll escape the inquisition however considering the likelihood of us chasing the game in the second half or of extra time you would think he should get some game time to make a memorable impact.

47 minutes ago, sidcow said:

Who is David Ornstein? 

According to some friends who are Arsenal  season ticket holders he is their Percy. 

Comparing one of  the best set piece takers in the world (as well as a very good player) to Conor Hourihane is like comparing ghazi to Grealish. 
 

JWP got 8 goals and 8 assists in the league last year according to the official premier league stats. 

Tielemans got 6 goals and 4 assists in a much better team.

I know who I’d rather buy for Villa. 

 There’s not a single unlikable player in our squad and then you have absolutely wonderful men like Emi. 

I think that’s unfair. Southgate deserves a lot of criticism for other issues but the overall atmosphere in the camp is far better than previous tournaments.

players will always have their own agenda - Jack included - but I don’t sense a clique/camp type divide.

there may be an issue re his accommodation of certain players e.g Kane doing what he wants, Henderson playing when not fit, obsession with foden and mount etc but I don’t think the specific players are unlikeable.
 

Apart from foden the cocksure little shit. 

Ty is firmly established as third choice CB now and he should be proud of that. 
 

He’ll get another opportunity due to suspension or injury at some point and just needs to keep playing well when called upon. 

Money talks. Offer him a big signing fee and 60k a week with a promise of a new contract next year if he does well and we may have a chance. 

20 minutes ago, paul514 said:

I think I would sell McGinn for that, he is a good player but we didn't play him correctly this season, he isn't a DCM. We would be better of cashing in at that price and buying a DCM or even just a better player which is quite easy from abroad when you have 40m to spend.

McGinn is Jack’s best mate. No way in the world is he being sold unless McGinn forces the issue. 

I’ve been a harsh critic of Tyrone in the past but he’s really excelled under huge pressure for England - let’s be clear a lot of people were just waiting for him to put a single foot wrong and he didn’t. 

whatever happens  now with Maguire he’s proven himself at this level and hopefully that will give him even more confidence/focus with us next season. 

A newly promoted team or a Newcastle could much worse than put 10-15m on ghazi

Jack getting a new 250k per week contract is far more likely than him leaving this summer.

Can we ask him what pressure the club is applying on the authorities - before the season starts - to ensure the successful use of VAR this year? The very successful deployment in the euros means that fans will not accept the incompetent deployment that we have had in the premier league to date.

9 minutes ago, mjmooney said:

Well if I were Players' Player of the Season Matt Targett, I wouldn't be too happy about this. 

You’re right he won’t be happy….he’ll be like a dog with two dicks 

Excellent signing. He will have limited game time (none of it as a winger I suspect) but all of his contribution will come off the pitch.

Hopefully he wants and is adept at a coaching role and can maybe take Terry’s spot when he ultimately leaves.

Looking back I don’t blame any of our stars during the post MON era for leaving. Lerner had clearly given up, they were top players and had every right to push on and do the best for their careers and their families rather than circle the plughole of relegation with us and waste away the best years of their career because of our lack of ambition. 

I love young. He gave us so many happy memories and I’d happily see him return. He’d be a huge asset for the younger players development and I think he has a good affinity with us - after all we made him. 

I know we have money but we don’t have man city money. It’s ludicrous to expect every signing either to be 20m+ or a very highly rated young player. 

No brainer to bring in a model professional, a serial winner who has a soft spot for us to provide cover in lots of positions and to help guide the rest of this very young squad with their ongoing development.

Could be as simple as a one year deal or a potential future coaching role depending on what he wants to do. 

I remember reading a number of articles when we signed him stating how much of a good fit he was for the premier league based on his style etc. 

Must also have been extremely difficult to move to a new country and basically be in lockdown for everything but your job.

I find it amazing that we have actually been able to get him in 6 months early to start that settling in and adaption process. If he’s fit I think he’ll be an important player for us next season. 

On the first game I’d keep sterling but move him to the right instead of foden.

You then have a choice of rashford or grealish (clearly should be jack) for the left forward position and foden or mount for the advanced midfield position. 
 

Hopefully McGinn does Jack (and England) a favour and puts a reducer in on Foden or Mount so that Southgate’s hand is forced. I suspect that’s the only way we will see Jack get any major game time and England find any genuine creativity.

4 minutes ago, VillaFaninLondon said:

Fair point on Alli who had very impressive stats at a young age at Spurs. At the time though Alli was considered one of the best young players in the world and he's had an almighty fall from grace let's be honest. I still think Foden looks a much better prospect in terms of his all round game than Alli, technically Foden is phenomenal. I always thought Alli was a great goalscoring midfielder but had a gangly feel about him and never impressed me that much when he wasn't scoring. 

 

I think it's easy to say Jack would have had a better impact than Foden yesterday given Foden was average, but he still managed to hit the post and looked one of our better players in the first half. 

 

I like both of them and if it were up to me I'd have both Foden and Jack starting for England. 

Foden was very average apart from hitting the post and got a silly yellow to boot. Putting Jack’s credentials to one side I’d definitely drop him and give Jack or rashford a chance v Scotland. 

I think Kane’s performance yesterday was more an indication of how poorly foden, sterling and mount linked up with him and failed to play to his strengths.

He got desperate to get on the ball and started dropping deeper and deeper.

I’m clearly biased but I think it would have been a very different story for Kane had jack played - both have spoken at length pre tournament re how they see the game the same way and play well together etc.

Drop Foden, get jack in on the left and move sterling to the right and I think you’d see a much happier Kane. Hopefully he gets in Southgate’s ear. 

Been excellent first half.

He’s a PE teacher. That’s his level and somehow he’s England manager