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3 hours ago, DakotaVilla said:

The general consensus appears to be that if we qualify for champions league we won’t have huge room to spend but won’t have to sell anyone significant either.

If we don’t qualify for champions league then it’s very likely we will have to sell a first teamer to avoid PSR issues and to create some spending room. 

Some of the posters have done some quite detailed analysis so hopefully can provide additional detail. 

CL or EL makes no difference to spending as it is a one off qualification.

The club can’t go, well we have an extra 50m so let’s buy 120m of players on 4 year deals because the fee is amortised so when you don’t get qualification the year after you are screwed.

The sensible way of looking at it is your top players are less likely to leave and it makes the club more financially healthy.

this of course changes if you qualify for a second or third time in succession as you have banked a bit of the profits.

The reality is we are 15m under the 105 for. 3 year period and we have a bunch of surplus players who will fetch their book value collectively with a few of the doing the heavy lifting which frees up about 25m a year in amortisation plus whatever their wages are.

if we shift them all and the owners are willing to put the cash into the club as they have previously then we can spend the kind of money I was saying on page 53 without breaking PSR or FFP

12 hours ago, duke313 said:

Didn’t we just scrape by FFP? Obviously we had no room to sign those positions without making a major sale. 

no we are 15m under the limit

9 minutes ago, Czarnikjak said:

It's interest free debt to their owner...he paid for their stadium. 

i mean that is great from their owner but these massive sales they have made should have wiped all that out.

1 hour ago, Lichfield Dean said:

I know FFP/PSR doesn't work this way, and debt isn't always a bad thing, but to me this is the most important of all the charts, especially when considered in conjunction with some of the others:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68713522

how the **** do Brighton have that much debt?

I have no worries about FFP this summer, I worked a list that didn’t include selling any of our major players whilst spending a lot that didn’t break the rules, brought down wages and was sustainable with the amortisation of the players brought for future years.

its on page 53 of the transfer thread 

7 hours ago, duke313 said:

You have to remember he supports Man Utd, they’re entitled to win everything don’t you know.

Oh to be that used to winning….

it would be nice

2 hours ago, omariqy said:

Can’t stop watching this

 

Biggest injustice he has ever seen? I can think of about half a dozen vs us alone.

why did we go on the attack? ‘It’s the Man Utd way’

3 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

This is why many weren’t too concerned about United. 

That and they can add up

1 hour ago, fightoffyour said:

What is or was this mythical 5 points? They’re 11.9 points behind us ffs

I just don’t get how they can’t read a table, how they suddenly think they will win 7 in a row

Shhhhhh to all the Man Utd for fifth people now please

Just turned it on its 2-2

5 hours ago, DJBOB said:

UCL qualifying might not be the floodgate that pushes us back into the spotlight.

But it also could be.

Saying that it definitely won't overlooks the massive importance it has in terms of boosting our revenues and our profile to be able to compete on an annual basis. It may well end up like Newcastle or Leicester. But we could also propel ourselves into constant European campaigns and a closer reach for a title race, more funds for a bigger squad to compete in cups. It's kind of boggling to me that people are understating it.  We were last in the Europa league 13 some years ago. We were last in the European Cup 40 years ago! 

There's a whole generation of Villa fans who have never seen us in the European Cup/UCL - including me.

 

You can count on the revenue from sponsorship etc you can’t can’t on CL money.

3 hours ago, VillaChris said:

Qualifying for CL for 2-3 years running makes the difference as Spurs have done at points in the last decade.

All I'd say is be prepared for more selections like last night at various points next season which will be an interesting reaction on here.

Qualifying for the CL has no boosts for players we could sign other than a bit of extra cash for that one year, which doesn’t mean much because of PSR wage restrictions and amortisation of any player we do buy because we won’t be counting on getting the income in the years after.

what it does is help keep our players and increase our commercialisation through increased exposure. That is the lasting effect.

getting CL 2 or 3 years out of say the next 5 years will just super charge that, cement us in revenue behind the big six, open the gap behind us.

it would also allow us to spend like we will get into it most years.

6 hours ago, thabucks said:

Just read UTD are interested in Nice’s LB Melvin Bard - weren’t they interested in Digne previously - attack minded left back so maybe we could negotiate a Digne or Moreno plus £££ deal for him. 

United will be careful in their dealings with nice because of ownership

2 minutes ago, omariqy said:

In a weird way, it might be a good thing we lost to Man City the way we did. Man City will get a bit of confidence back ahead of their game to Real Madrid (which we need them to win). It also keeps them in the title hunt with them playing Spurs towards the end of the season. We don’t want them treating that as a dead rubber. 

Reaching

1 hour ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said:

Hate to be the bringer of bad news but there are tentative signs that God is going to go down the Matt Le Tissier route, still love the man but would wish he stops with this nonsense.

 

 

people are allowed to have opinions, bumping old player threads makes me click them thinking they are dead -.-

1 hour ago, Sulberto21 said:

Hopefully Lee Hendrie will finally fulfil that potential…..

Duran is going to be a top striker.

lets see some more evidence before going that far.

He has looked better this year than last, he also seems to have some rare qualities.

1 hour ago, Wezbid said:

It's not a half arsed selection to me. Olsen had to step in. Duran had to. Tielemans is working his way back to full fitness and will be needed in games where he's not run ragged by City's possession game.

Bailey can't start every game and was replaced by Zaniolo who had upped his game and needs the minutes for the run in, Pau is only just back from injury and can't be over-stretched, he's far more pivotal against the likes of Brentford.

I get the frustration travelling there and not seeing the players you want to see but there is nothing half-arsed about what we do. 

These players are humans, with limits and there's also still a lot of games to come.

some fans think if you pay a player another 10k that week they somehow become less fatigued.

Newer understood how some fans don't get they have bodies the same as the rest of us.

36 minutes ago, ben1505 said:

Anyone on here remotely concerned about top 4 favourites Manure catching us?

No, zero, nada, zilch.

1 minute ago, Callum said:

Pay off his contract and get this malignant leech out of this club. 

well they have tried to get rid, the player has to want to do a deal to be worth paying him off for us to do so.

bare bones tonight, hope we don't conceed anymore.

I think we all knew we werent going to win when we saw who was missing from the team sheet

I also thought we played well first half.

I don't think we should sign him anyway, but one error doesn't rub out a decent first half from him.

10 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

" With the entourage "... are we going clubbing or? Who is this anyway?

 

signed a 5 year deal last summer, taking him into his mid 30's............

captain and an italian. He isn't moving here

6 minutes ago, duke313 said:

Does anyone remember the media fawning over Newcastle last season in their race for CL?  I don't see the same from them regarding our pursuit.

well the media tagged them onto the big 7 straight away too.

It's just lazy pundits who don't have a clue how the finances work and just think to themselves.... 'dey av loadz of munney'

5 minutes ago, The_Steve said:

Angeball isn’t sustainable- they looked very tired after that game. 

A huge confidence boost knowing we are fourth going into the City game regardless of the outcome. A point would be huge.

True it would be unsustainable if they had to play in Europe too, but they don’t. I don’t think they will conk out, we might, especially in midfield