Grasshopper

I'm still backing him.

 

One reason is that I don't like admitting I was wrong when I wanted him as manager

 

I also like the fact he is proud to be the Villa Manager and is aware of the history etc.  I know I will be shot down for this but O'Leary used to really annoy me with the way he put the club down, while he was manager.

 

Lambert though might be missing one vital attribute and that is being a lucky manager.  He has built a half decent squad of players on a  small budget but he just doesnt have the luck either with Sending offs or Injuries.  Just never seems to get going.

There is no substitute for talent

the one vital attribute he doesnt have

We could do worse than the "Fat spanish waiter" I read somewhere yesterday that he will be leaving his present job at the end of the season and would like a return to England.

But we need a new manager NOW

We won't go down.

Respect for your oprimism.

Why wont we go down?

 

There surely can't be anyone still backing him?

 

Really?

Respect

Its getting insane with all the negative stats that he is still here. I mean why the hell are the media not on it. I thnk it'll get so bad over the next few games that even Richard may turn, then he is well and truely f******

You think?

 

 

There surely can't be anyone still backing him?

Hang around on here long enough and you may find some.

 

Interestingly the couple of real fervent supporters are silent but are reading the thread as they have 'liked' posts. Its a shame they have not posted as I would be really interested to hear their take on Lambert given the disaster unfolding.

 

they're all probably a little embarrassed ATM

 

................... we are only 5 points off relegation places but they also fail to mention we are the same number of points off a top ten spot and only two more than that off a top 8/9 spot...................

 

OK

 

Check this

 

7 pts behind L'pool - but - 5pts off Relegation place.

 

at our current 1.something a game Liverpool would have to lose 7 GAMES ON THE TROT for us to be level with them.

 

WBA (new manager), Palace (new manager) &/or Burnley would only need to win 3 games on the trot (or at some point in a run without losing) to OVERTAKE US

 

Taking into account our next games Leicester (0-1-3pts) Arse Chelski & 'pool (0-4pts).

0 pts from 12 = LAMBERT OUT!!!!

More likely 1 point from 12 = LAMBERT OUT!!!!

possibly 3pts from 12 = LAMBERT OUT!!!!

great would be 4 pts from 12

unlikely 6 pts from 12

 

4 from 12 would be 1 pt per game average

WBA, Palace AND Burnley could all end up above us if we get any less than 3 pts

 

12 from 12 I'll give Lambert my B****cks on a silver plate

 

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If we occupy a relegation place and "Sacrifice" the Bournemouth FACup tie to "concentrate on the league" then................

 

LAMBERT (well & truly) OUT

 

I was ridiculed for saying this

only 1 game in and I fear the worse...................

Relegation is simply unthinkable

We all know that Lambert has recently signed a new deal, and that seems a good enough reason to think that Lerner won't pull the trigger.

However, if we

1) lose our next 4 games (Liverpool, Bournemouth, Arsenal and Chelsea), does anyone think Lerner could drop the axe? It's not completely unrealistic to think those 4 games could be lost.

Surely Lerner (or Fox) would have put some

2) clause in the contract to not have to pay off the full contract if we want rid?

1) hope not, but it might

2) Hope so, but might not

Whatever, we cant afford to employ 'another yes man' as lets be honest, that's why Lambert is still here! Herein lies the problem. Why would Lerner sack someone who is doing the perfect job for him? The perfect job being 'keep us in the PL on a shoestring whilst Randy pockets the sky money every season. I'm afraid this will continue until Lerner recoups most of his money. Sad state of affairs, I know, but thats it in a nutshell. Its either that or we go down and Lerner takes a hit on a potential sale. Not too much to look forward to then!

Taking things a step further.

Senario - Lambert takes us down

Lerner "Well done Paul" turns to Mr Fox "let the fire sale begin"

Lerner phones up PL & Sky "how much over the next few years?"

2016/7/8

Message on Face Book

For Sale

AVFC 10mill ono.

Call Tom

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

However, seeing the writing on the wall in AVFC case seems so obvious that its soul destroying to watch the inevitable unravel before our very eyes.

I believe the time is long overdue for Paul to go.

There comes a time when just staying for the sake, money, bloodymindedness or having nowhere else to go, comes into a grey area of being selfish and not thinking about the consequences of your own delusion.

When it gets to this point, where I personally think he is, maybe even beyond, and you dont go gracefully, then your asking for what you get.

Paul, Go before you invite the wrath. It wont be nice.

The way I see it is:

 

1. Lerner is the owner and is 100% responsible for selecting the manager and 100% responsible for funding him. We would all love to see him gone but he isn't going to just walk out and right off his investment so we are stuck with him until a credible buyer comes along. There is no point in chanting "we want Lerner out" because he won't be there and probably doesn't even bother watching the games from yankee doodle land.

 

2. Lambert is the manager and is 100% responsible for buying players (within his budget), 100% responsible for training, 100% responsible for team selection and 100% responsible for tactics. There is every point in chanting "we want Lambert out" and "you don't know what you're doing" because he is there and he hears it and hopefully this gets back to Lerner via Mr Fox. There is also every point in fans voting with their feet and not turning up to games as this is also likely to get back to Lerner via Mr Fox.

 

To those of you who say that there is no point in sacking Lambert while Lerner is still there, ask yourselves if getting rid of the person who is 100% responsible for everything that occurs on match day is wrong because I for one believe it is better to fix one part of a defective thing than just let it all fall apart as we are currently.

 

Guys, this club is sleep walking into a deep abyss inadvertently aided by those that think there is nothing we can do and that Lambert is the best we can get.

100%

 

I think managers are given too much credit by football fans. When a team is doing well the manager is a genius and when the team is struggling the manager is a joke. Look at Moyes, Martinez or Pulis for a few of examples of managers who's standing amongst fans seems to flip season by season depending on how their teams are doing. 

 

The far bigger factor predicting how well a team will do is how much the club is able to spend on the playing staff. We can change our manager over and over again but we will still be mediocre until we can offer the wages required to build a more competitive squad.

 

I agree in part with this. However you see I think Lambert whilst not being belessed with a great budget in terms of fees and wages, although it is better than some, has in fact put a decent squad of players together.

You know though one of my biggest issues with Lambert over the last year or so, and it was highlighted again yesterday, is too many times we have lost to teams not due to a lack of quality but due to a lack of desire. At the arse end of last season, when we were in a dire position and should have been fighting for our lives, we lost to Palace and Fulham not because they were better than us but because they wanted it more. The same happened yesterday. The reason we have taken two points from games over the last 4 weeks against West Brom, Sunderland, Palace, Swansea and Leicester isn't down to them teams being better than us or paying more in wages it is down to a manager that fails to get the best out of the players at his disposal and fails to get them playing with a heart and desire that ensures they give everything for 90 minutes. Leicester yesterday were full of heart and desire and wanted it more than we did and that is unforgivable. This issue is also highlighted by the fact we have on a number of occasions gone out of cups to lower league opposition under Lambert, again due to him not getting the best out of his players.

Long term of course a new manager is not going to take us back into the top 8 with the current owner and anyone expecting a change in manager to achieve that is living in cloud cuckoo land. What a new manager can offer us though is the chance to organize a decent squad of players and get them playing effective football that gets the best out of those players, gets them giving their all and most importantly gets us results.

The long term will only be sorted by the removal of the owner. The short to medium term can though instantly be improved by a change in manager.

 

100%

I don't dispute that Lambert has operated under conditions and circumstances that most managers either don't have to or wouldn't have put up with.

 

Part of me wishes he would have walked and then exposed all the problems and issues at the club.

 

But he hasn't, which makes me think why if it's as bad under Lerner as everyone claims - why is Lambert still here? Blind faith and loyalty? Stupidity?

 

As some have said if he gets sacked he will find himself in the football wilderness for a long time, so is he here because he has no choice but to desperately try and turn things round and save his reputation? Or because he may as well get paid as much as he can while he can? Is he delusional?

 

I like the guy, but I would rate him much higher if he had decided to step aside and accepted that he can't do as a manager what he needs to, whether it be his fault or the fault of Lerner and the club.

 

I would back him if I had seen one single sign of hope, of consistency, of belief, of vision, of future, anything to hang onto. But all I see is a club circling the drain, our reputation already flushed away, the only record/stat/humiliation left to suffer is relegation.

 

It's a huge risk bringing a new manager in, and it might not make any difference, it might well be that nobody could turn this club around under Lerner and co. But I don't see any other choice, as many have stated the manager is the only thing we can change to make a difference. We have to at least try and do something!

100%

A change is needed

1 Sack Lambert = reset

2 Caretaker appointment Scott Marshall???? Given???? Cowans????

3 Change of team section process

4 Change of tactics

5 have plan A plan B & plan C

Guzan

Hutton Okore Baker (Clark after ban) Sissohko

Sanchez

Bacuna (or Lowton) Westwood Delph (when available or Grealish)

Cole (Bacuna, Grealish or N'Zog) free role

or

Weimann up front with

Benteke

Following players to be used in emergency

Lowton (only on right wing/Midfield)

Richardson (only on Left wing/Midfield)

Gaby (impact sub)

we have a waffer thin squad

we have no reasonable cover at RB (lowton not good enough) LB (Richardson NGE) DM (Westwood/Delph not ideal) CF (Gaby/Andy NGE)

We have no RW LW No10 (Cole Not fit enough - CNZ ??? - Grealish Not yet)

We need 7 players, 3 (better?) coaches, (Def,Mid & Att) 1 new Manager, 1 Assist. Man (better?) & 1 new owner

no more injuries/suspentions please

without a few of those changes = as good as relegated

At the end of the rope with lambert, but I'm willing to see what happens after the transfer window. If we're still struggling in March, he's gotta go.

March will be too late

maybe its already too late

He needs to go NOW

After reading the forum for the last 4 years I finally joined last year to voice my opinions which have been ridiculed by some here.

I take no pride in critisizing people or thier opinions

However,

I take 100% pride in my opinion by saying this.

LAMBERT OUT

i don't think he is that bad of a manager...I like the style he is trying out. We have to start richardson, weimann and gabby every week. First names on the teamsheet for me.

Im ernst?

Trans

Are you serious?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

................... we are only 5 points off relegation places but they also fail to mention we are the same number of points off a top ten spot and only two more than that off a top 8/9 spot...................

OK

Check this

7 pts behind L'pool - but - 5pts off Relegation place.

at our current 1.something a game Liverpool would have to lose 7 GAMES ON THE TROT for us to be level with them.

WBA (new manager), Palace (new manager) &/or Burnley would only need to win 3 games on the trot (or at some point in a run without losing) to OVERTAKE US

So basically, if things carry on as they are, we'll stay in the same place.

(A)If we do better than the teams above us, we'll catch up with them.

(B )If the teams below us do better than us, they'll catch up with us.

Flipping genius stuff this!

To be fair, I think he's saying it's far more likely that (B ) will happen than (A).

Which seems reasonable enough.

Yep. Was pretty obvious the point he was making.

I got that.

It still didn't require the convoluted calculations to make that point, which is what I was getting at.

You don't need a calculator to work out we're less likely to overtake Liverpool than Burnley are to overtake us.

FWIW, I think it's even more likely that neither will happen.

I don't have any maths to back it up though.

firstly, you edited out (I wonder why) my concern at not getting enough pts to remain the oh so cherished "12th - 5 pts above the relegation places" after the next 4 games.

Secondly, If we catch Liverpool up that'd be good because theyre not going down

Thirdly, If WBA, Palace & Burnley do overtake us WE'LL BE AS GOOD AS F***ed if we cant catch up again

That's what concerns me

Why let it concern you now? You can't do anything about it, aren't you better off leaving that kind of convoluted predicting to Nostradamus and letting the football do the talking first?

I don't understand the obsession with getting wound up about things that haven't happened yet.

 

Yesterday I was concerned

Now I'm VERY WORRIED

or 30 years

I had a Paper round as teenager.

Had about 30 Sunday newspapers to deliver and remember adjusting the 2-0 defeat to Arsenal to a 2-6 victory in every copy.

Was told off by the boss then he laughed at me and told me not to do it again

My first game was a div 3 league match against Walsall - we drew 0-0.  I blame Houllier

Me too

The entire Walsall team had French lessons at school

Sacre Bleu - Merd

 

 

 

 

 

 

firstly, you edited out (I wonder why) my concern at not getting enough pts to remain the oh so cherished "12th - 5 pts above the relegation places" after the next 4 games.

Secondly, If we catch Liverpool up that'd be good because theyre not going down

Thirdly, If WBA, Palace & Burnley do overtake us WE'LL BE AS GOOD AS F***ed if we cant catch up again

That's what concerns me

1)Why let it concern you now?

2)You can't do anything about it, aren't you better off leaving that kind of convoluted predicting to Nostradamus and letting the football do the talking first?

3)I don't understand the obsession with getting wound up about things that haven't happened yet.

 

1) Because I care

2) One doesnt need to be Nostra..... to know whats coming with Lamberts ability to A) break records lose/draw winnable games

3) I dont get wound up any more. the whole thing just hurts

........and were did you get your forum name from?

 

 

Telegraph reporting Swansea are interested in Lowton.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/swansea-city/11333799/Swansea-prepare-2m-swoop-for-unsettled-Aston-Villa-defender-Matthew-Lowton.html

 

 

Swansea City are weighing up a £2 million bid for unsettled Aston Villa defender Matthew Lowton.

Garry Monk, the Swansea manager, is keen to sign a new right-back this month and has targeted either Lowton or Tottenham Hotspur's Kyle Naughton.

But Spurs's asking price of £5million for Naughton means Lowton is emerging as a cheaper alternative and Swansea could make an offer.

Lowton is growing increasingly frustrated over a lack of first-team opportunities at Villa has met manager Paul Lambert to discuss his future.

 

Lowton frustrated at lack of 1st team football, maybe someone should tell him he is shit.

 

No tell him he's great.

Let him sign for Swansea

Then tell him he's Shite

First Topic for me.

I thought I'd start one of interest as oppose to one that could come under the category of "....I came in here for an arguement........but you havent paid......oh yes I......"

I first went "down the Villa" (gewinn dowen tha Villaaa) the season we got relegated to Div3. Yes I cried and have hated Dave Mckay (spelling?), amongst others, ever since.

But the rise back to the top has given me many memories.

Anyone care to add anything?

feel free