punkiller1981

Almost feels like the is a fraud case here

Almost feels like the is a fraud case here

1 hour ago, richp999 said:

The key problem with ffp and why it protects the man u's of this world is because it prevents an owner bankrolling a club. This they don't like because it allows others with a rich owner to catch up. 

If it were just to stop clubs going bust, then the rules should just be that you are not allowed to lose more than  X amount of money a year. 

Stopping an owner throwing millions in to balance the books is where it becomes protectionist. 

If tony wanted to waste millions each year on bad transfers etc, then why is that a problem if he also was to put in the cash to balance the books at the end of the year. 

Now man city have got around it with £400m sponsorships, there is a now a change to ffp to be voted on (the uefa ffp). 

They want to change the rules to be based on a transfer loss limit. 

So next, even the clubs who have a decent income can't spend it on expensive new players, without already having expensive players to sell, to bring thier net transfer spend below a certain level. 

Who does this benefit? Ah yes, the clubs that already have large expensively assembled squads.. Surprise suprise the man u's, Chelseas,arsenal's etc.. 

Itll be almost impossible to compete even if we do ever get back to the prem. 

 

 

 

 

Agreed it’s a scam by the elite clubs because a traditionally mid table club like Man City have come in and shocked the big clubs. So to stop that ever happening they put measures in place. Who knows one day we might be lucky enough to have as competitive a top flight as France it Germany where we all already know who the Champiobs will be this time next year. It will in many ways ruin football but all of us plebs will still pay our sky subscriptions to feed the premier league big boys so they will all be happy.

The way I see FFP other than having money to buy a club you don’t actually need a pot to piss in money wise because you can’t invest any personal funds due to the restrictions. Am I missing something or this about right ? If so great the is hope for us that we can own a club 

I do love the Ironic workings of the football league were the are restrictions stopping owners putting money into a club do to FFP while also running a process of fit and proper person testing which seems to do nothing to check that the new owner could support the club anyway

Liverpool have done ok with American owners who also own baseball clubs. One thing is for certain we can’t go on as we are.

Does the US takeover actually have anything to it it is it just paper talk? The fact that it’s the times and not the sun or Daily Mail seems to give it more credibility to me. I think either way we need it I just don’t see things working out with Tony weather it’s due to not being able to get money out of China or not actually having any. What ever reason it is I just think we need to move on. 

Close this down. This is part of the kind of negativity that developed during our last 2 years in the prem and that was toxic. We should be arrogant about this and say we are Aston Villa the biggest club in the league and we are getting promoted. End of story 

So the is a story in the telegraph saying we are so broke that we can’t even afford Alan Huttons wages so we are not offering him a new contract. No side line of weather we actually wanted to offer a contract or that we thought he wasn’t worth the money at 34 years old just that we can’t afford him. I’m starting to get very bored of the financials. Yes are position isn’t great but it’s not like we won’t probably have a higher budget than 95% of the other teams in the league.

Just seen this quote in the express 

“The Hammers have held preliminary talks with Villa but have been initially put off by the £40million price-tag.

Tottenham are keen but they too don't want to stump up the huge fee that Villa, who lost in the Championship play-off final, are looking for.

But both clubs are watching the situation closely and they will reopen talks with Villa if they drop their lofty demands.” 

My first thought are if they don’t like the price (which should be higher) then look elsewhere. Second thought is if this club lets him go for anything less than what we need to cover our mess then I’m done, the would be no point selling jack and  not getting enough money to get us out the shit. 

I’m assuming the answer to this is yes but does the cost of the scouting network come in to FFP? 

If not we should plough as much money as we can both home and abroad into our scouting network. We should know the pros and cons of every person kicking a football about in the world. The only signing in about the last ten years and probably longer were I can say I thought the was a good bit of scouting spotting something others hadn’t is with Benteke. Other than him I can’t think of anybody. 

I look at Spurs (who I hate more than any other club) and thre scouting where they picked up Kyle Walker from Sheffield United as a youngster and delli alli ( I know we were linked too) and Eric dier from Portugal. We never seem to be able to do things like that.

Anybody have any thoughts on the possibility of getting Phil foden on loan from Man City. I imaging they will want to get him games and I can’t imagine he is on huge wages.

I’m still gutted about Saturday but the more I think about it I think regardless of who we sell I think we could have a push next year. I honestly don’t see any of the sides in this league having big budgets and I include the relegated teams in that. The sides coming down will be burdened with massive wage bills and only stoke really have any sellable assets. 

The sides in the league already I don’t see any improving, the likes of derby have slashed there budget so I think even with the restrictions our budget will be higher than most in the league so if we are sensible (big if) we could get a side to challenge. This league is going to be so much weaker next season including us so I think it’s all relative. 

2 minutes ago, Eastie said:

A big if - seems to have barely played there . 

I agree, 3.5 is what’s being reported I would be surprised if that went through. 

In terms of money I don’t see any side spending big next year in our league. I genuinely see it being the lowest quality of the 3 seasons we will have been in it. So on that basis we need a decent championship Side as opposed to a great one which I think we can do and if we keep jack then we have a difference maker. 

Gollini to Atalanta for £3.5 million if it goes through must be more than expected back for him.

For me it’s a pretty simple situation. Keep jack we probably give ourselves a chance lose him and we will probably be mid table. Im comfortable with steer or another keeper. We need some astute business at the back and then going forward green, o,hare to come in with RHM, Davies supporting Kodja then it’s not as bad as it seems.

add to that I just don’t think the league will be anywhere near as strong as it was this year. No team will go half a season unbeaten and still finish third.

Just curious but what happens if we just ignore FFP? Let’s be honest no other league seems to give it any respect so why would we. I don’t know how much month Tony actually has but I wound be inclined to say sod it I’ll take the fine for missing FFP

Genuine question here do we zonal Mark during open play. So many times I see midfield players on the opposition in acres. 

21 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

Why is it no matter who we play the opposition always seem to move the ball around better than we do. Cant get my head around it.

That second half felt like they had an extra player.

My theory on this is because we have our midfield defending there strikers and wingers so we appear solid and then they can just pop the Ball back to the midfield and defenders under no pressure and then when we try to get out to the midfield we start from such a deep position they can just work the ball around us. If we pressed a bit and put pressure on the ball we would win the ball higher up the pitch and force mistakes.

1 point from 3 games since wolves successfully turned from beating top of the league too scoring once against 3 average sides. Turgid crap. Albert showing why he doesn’t get a premier league side grealish proving why he will only get a bottom half premier league team next season.

1 shot all game I don’t remember many against qpr either

This is how to hand Cardiff second place yet again we look energyless. I can’t see us getting anything out of this 

Wolves winning Cardiff winning both irrelevant because we can’t do our job

Great performance second half. Also glad somebody mentioned how biased the sky commentators are, it was like they turned up determined to prove wolves are the best team in the league. 50 seconds in to the game hinchcliffe said wolves have been dominating possession. 50 seconds In for god sake

Anyone know why he isn’t in the squad today? Is he injured