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Agree there, the last 4 are way past there best.

Anyway i don`t even want Carrick, i quite like the thought of that young RB from Cardiff though.

Well my point on this somwhere in the thread was that he is not a shite player. He may not be playing well now, or for the whole season infact but thats not what we were discussing. He`s played a lot for Manure after been the star in a Spurs team that was one game away from 4th. Capello and Fergie can`t be that wrong even if they can make mistakes.

They look ace mate, fair play.

Now that is the most stupid thing i have ever read on here. Im going to assume you dont know many Manure fans I do but as with most of them they only started supporting them again about 3 years ago when they got back to winning stuff. Of course he`s not the worse player to play for them, he`s not even the worse player there now.

Now that is the most stupid thing i have ever read on here.

Good post there Shillz

I agree with that but he did play a big part, so much so that people were discussing whether it should be him or Barry in the middle for England.

I agree completely. Someone we bring on when we need a goal. Not someone we try to shove out the door for a measly few million. I can agree with that. I know Carrick has been poor but he did form the basis of a very good Manure team two years ago. As they say, form is temporary, class is permanent. I don`t particularly want him mind.

You might be different but I'm quite keen to see us score lots of goals. If Carew is going to do lots of that, then great. Yes we are different then. I prefer to see a winning team. And you might have noticed that scoring goals is a pretty good way to achieve that. And your ridiculously flawed statistics don't really do much to change that. Not the only way though, hey, the key is conceeding fewer than you score, not matter how many that is. We do also keep the ball a bit better. For me Carew is a perfect imapact sub.

So replacing three of our starting front six from this season with inferior players? Not one of the best ideas I've heard. In your opinion of course. So who do you think is better than our current players? Seen as you have now written off Carrick and Parer at least.

Terrible lins today, including one saying Jimmy would rather go to Pool than Manure, yeh right.

Milner has loads of pace. You'd find very few top central midfielders that would be even close to Milner in terms of speed, Ballack, Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes, Essien, Carrick, Alonso, Barry. None of them could get close to Milner in a foot race. Out of those players at their peak, Milner is quicker than maybe Alonso and Barry. You wouldnt expect Alonso to be quick either, given hes a passer, not a runner. Milners got a good engine, but no pace. I never used to rate him that highly as a wideman because of his lack of pace, being switched to the middle has made this lack of pace less important and suited him. He's quicker than Carrick, Barry, Alonso, Scholes, Lampard and Ballack. Gerrard is a lot quicker than him. I'd say Essien is as well. I dont think hed be quicker than Scholes, Lampard and Ballack at their peak. My nans quicker than Carrick so he doesnt count Anyway, dont suppose it matters. He is quicker than them for sure. He use to run the 100m when he was younger. Not that been a top cm is reliant on been quick.

Well going by the logic on page 9 how many clubs in the prem would be after Cuellar for there rb? I`ll be guessing not many.

One thing i would say is we defintaly need a new rb if we are to be a top side. If MON doesn`t think Young is better than Cuellar then fair enough, but one thing is for certain, Cuellar is not good enough at rb for a CL team.

I understand your point but saying we`ve been fine is daft. What if having a more adventurous rb would have given us more balance and attacking intent at home. We may have won a few more of the games we drew which ultimatly cost us 4th position. We don`t need to be so safe at home, we need to win.

I think he has been treated unfairly as there are games that Cuellar didnt play well at all but still stayed in the team. I thought you only kept your place if you played well. Says a lot about our team that we got so high in the league with a player looking so out of sorts in the team. Theres defintaly been times when Young needed to start a game.

Spam after Henry is a joke, just that pair of words removed trying to gain some interest. Just like they were never goint to sign RVN.

Nice to see the thread has been draged way OT because of certain daft points of view again. Pretty similar to at least one other thread recently. Not much action today in terms of incoming player rumours?

Wow, two central midfielders who aren't as good as our current central midfielders, a striker who isn't as good as our current striker and a passable right-side with the combined IQ of a tractor tyre. Be still my beating heart. Carrick is better than petrov, lets be honest. He`s had a poor season but he`s definatly better than Petrov. Ireland is pretty good, not too far off Milner atm when playing well. I`m not a massive fan of Richards but as rb he`s decent. I don`t trust him at cb yet but at rb he`s ok.

Not see enough of N'Zonzi to comment tbh. Don`t really remember him against us if he played? Can`t have defended too well though.

Its bollocks anyway.

That's pretty much what I said. But 'being slightly better than Reo-Coker' isn't really a pedastal that most top-level central-midfielders would want to be put on. I didnt say slightly better, you did. I think he`s a fair bit better. Certainly one of the better DM`s in the league.

Mascherano is better than NRC. He`s as good at tackling, as quick pretty much and is much better with the ball at his feet. Theirs a reason Barca wanted him last year.

Not sure if he would go there tbh. I`d want more than £24m too.