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Jones beat 18, and in 4 different weight classes Smile
so Jones was a indisciplined fighter who couldn't control his weight - cheers :-)
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Actually I think he started out around the mid 150's and the heaviest he got was at heavyweight when he beat Ruiz, weighing in at 193 or thereabouts.
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When you get a spare few minutes get onto youtube and watch some Jones Jr footage, throw in a little Hopkins too if you've got time to kill - then come back and tell me why these guys would ever be scared of Calzaghe :roll:
Had to remove the bold text, but i was reading Frank Warren's column in the paper today. I almost laughed out loud when he claimed Calzaghe is a better fighter than Jones Jr ever was.
In the time ive been around (im 28 years old) Roy Jones Jr at his peak was easily the best pound for pound fighter on the planet.
Did Warren say that? Well much like David Gold, what do you expect from a pig but a grunt?
Jones Jr would have brutalised Calzaghe, **** BRUTALISED him.
Just watched the fight, begrudging respect to Joe for finally becoming undisputed at his chosen weight. I had him winning by 2 rounds, a lot of close rounds in there though. I just don't understand why he's waited until he's nearly 36 years old before he did this....true Frank Warren fighter, no substance.
Actually that Kelley KO punch, amusing as it was was a bit over-rated, Kelley wasn't the best of fighters. Watch Jones demolish Bernard Hopkins and James Toney for examples of true genius. Hopkins is a legend and is still a champ now at 42-43 years old, Toney is one of the best fighters I've ever seen - and he never even won a round against Jones.
A prime Calzaghe against a prime Jones would of been one of the all time fights. The only thing missing from Calzaghes resume is the typical US hype. What is it now he's beat 8 world champions.
Jones beat 18, and in 4 different weight classes
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I was disappointed in the judges tonight, the fight wasn't as one sided as they seemed to have it.....thought maybe it was my anti-Calzaghe bias but no, it seems the beeb actually know how to score a fight too - round for round exactly the same as I had it:-
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Bring on Hopkins.
Doubt that'll happen to be honest.
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When you get a spare few minutes get onto youtube and watch some Jones Jr footage, throw in a little Hopkins too if you've got time to kill - then come back and tell me why these guys would ever be scared of Calzaghe :roll:
Had to remove the bold text, but i was reading Frank Warren's column in the paper today. I almost laughed out loud when he claimed Calzaghe is a better fighter than Jones Jr ever was.
In the time ive been around (im 28 years old) Roy Jones Jr at his peak was easily the best pound for pound fighter on the planet.
Did Warren say that? Well much like David Gold, what do you expect from a pig but a grunt?
Jones Jr would have brutalised Calzaghe, **** BRUTALISED him.
Just watched the fight, begrudging respect to Joe for finally becoming undisputed at his chosen weight. I had him winning by 2 rounds, a lot of close rounds in there though. I just don't understand why he's waited until he's nearly 36 years old before he did this....true Frank Warren fighter, no substance.
Actually that Kelley KO punch, amusing as it was was a bit over-rated, Kelley wasn't the best of fighters. Watch Jones demolish Bernard Hopkins and James Toney for examples of true genius. Hopkins is a legend and is still a champ now at 42-43 years old, Toney is one of the best fighters I've ever seen - and he never even won a round against Jones.
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Calzaghe will win by unaminous decision and will give Kessler a lesson similar to the one he gave Jeff Lacey.
Here's hoping the opposite happens
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I can't vote in this as I'm extremely biased with my hatred of Calzaghe. One of the most paper-thin resumes in the history of the sport, champion for 10 years and only ever taken 1 risky fight. Paper champion with a joke belt.
I hope Kessler takes his head off, but I doubt he will - Calzaghe doesn't do 'risk', he's avoided every challenge at every corner in his career. He says he'll retire inside 12 months, good **** riddance.
M8 you are an absolute fool of the highest order who nows jack all about boxing.how can you say joe has only fought one good opponent? lacy, Eubank, woodhall, bayer to name but a few.
he hasnt avoided nobody it been the other way round with others like jones jnr avoiding him.You say he has fought bums, maybe so with some of his oponents but he can only beat who is put in front of him.
he is a very humble guy and in my opinion one of the greatest white boxing champions of all time.fair enough you are intitled to your opinion but when your opinion is bullshit then im intitled to tell you it is.
I said he'd only ever taken 1 risky fight, please try to quote me correctly if you're going to quote me at all.
The one risky fight was Lacy, of course he had to have the fight in the UK despite Lacy holding the more important belt at the time - that's Calzaghes MO. After he fought Lacy he said he'd never take on crap opponents again and would be moving up in class. He then went on to fight Sakio Bika (WHO??) and Peter Manfredo Jr...yes we'd all heard of Manfredo Jr as he was on the Contender, and he never even won that AND he's naturally only a Jr Middleweight.
Feel free to point out where Jones Jr avoided Calzaghe, same thing with Hopkins. It hasn't happened, Calzaghe has mouthed off about it for years but every time there was a hint of the fights happening he's ran and hid behind Frank Warren and the WBO mandatory challenger selection commitee - hence his blatant and shameless ducking of Glen Johnson that I pointed out in my previous post.
Yes he beat Eubank, who was over the hill and a late substitute (I think for Steve Collins) Eubank took the fight at short notice while in preparation for a fight at cruiserweight, as a consequence he was horribly weight drained. Good name to have on your record but he didn't beat the 'real' Eubank. This is a pattern that good old Joe has followed his entire career in fact. You mentioned Woodhall who was also on his last legs when Joe finally fought him, and again Woodhall is only a natural 160 fighter. You mention someone called 'Bayer', I presume you mean Markus Beyer who was the WBC 168 champ for a while. Not only have you spelt his name wrong you've got your facts wrong, Calzaghe never fought him. Probably had a bad back or a twisted little finger or something. Kessler fought Beyer, and beat him.
When you get a spare few minutes get onto youtube and watch some Jones Jr footage, throw in a little Hopkins too if you've got time to kill - then come back and tell me why these guys would ever be scared of Calzaghe :roll:
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I havent a clue as I know nowt about either of them........but I await Witton_Lane's comment with interest.......;-)
You've got em mate.....very biased I know!!
Don't bother watching, it's insignificant. Watch Hatton V Mayweather by all means, shame Calslappy hasn't got Rickys balls.
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I can't vote in this as I'm extremely biased with my hatred of Calzaghe. One of the most paper-thin resumes in the history of the sport, champion for 10 years and only ever taken 1 risky fight. Paper champion with a joke belt.
I hope Kessler takes his head off, but I doubt he will - Calzaghe doesn't do 'risk', he's avoided every challenge at every corner in his career. He says he'll retire inside 12 months, good **** riddance.
The defining moment of Calslappys career for me was after he beat Will 'Kid Fire' McIntyre on the Tyson-Neilsen undercard - McIntyre was a **** bum who should never have been given a title shot, even a WBO title shot, yet Calzaghe acted like he'd just beaten Ray Robinson to hear him talk in the post fight interview, claimed he was the best fighter on the planet and that Jones and Hopkins were scared to fight him :roll:
He then challenged Glen Johnson to a fight and used all his usual shit....we must fight in Wales, you must take only 10% of the purse etc etc....and what do you know Johnson agreed to it!! That **** Joe up big time so he pulled out....not once but TWICE, claiming divorce problems, and then a bad back. His back healed quickly enough to take on the next mandatory bum the WBO gave him though, surprise surprise.
Johnson was the guy that Hopkins (who Joe said was scared of him) absolutely **** butchered, by the way.
It's fighters like Calzaghe that are ruining the sport, the sooner he's gone the better - and he can take Frank Warren with him.
Rant over.
Actually no it's not. One last interesting fact - the WBO are the only boxing organisation to ever elevate a fighter in the rankings after he'd died. That just about sums up the importance of holding their belt for 10 years. I'm sure the morons commentating tomorrow will bang on about 20 defences, Joe Louis, Marvin Hagler, Bernard Hopkins etc etc. Smoke and mirrors chaps, smoke and mirrors.
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Even if Hatton loses to Mayweather he's still achieved more in boxing than Calzaghe ever will, without question.
Calzaghe has been spoon fed a diet of over the hill fighters and bums since 1997, he waited until he was in his mid thirties before he actually took on a challenge and even then it was against a relative novice. Hatton to his credit took the Tszyu fight which, although Tszyu was 35 at the time was a tougher fight than anything Joes ever taken. Hatton has now stepped up and agreed to fight the P4P number 1 in Mayweather and even if he loses will get his due respect.
Calzaghe on the other hand spent years talking about fighting Jones, Hopkins, Tarver, Johnson etc etc etc and as soon as the fights materialised he refused to fight anywhere other than Wales, refused 50-50 or even 60-40 purse splits....and even then when Glen Johnson finally said '**** it I'll take what's on offer lets just fight' Joe managed to get 'injured' not once but TWICE to get out of facing a real fighter.
**** Calzaghe he's a joke.
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Someone at Aston Villa needs to take a stand against this, whether it be the board, the fans, the players or even the tea lady who might get the chance to piss in Golds coffee at VP.
It's all very well saying you're unhappy about it, all very well saying we're going to be sporting about it and all that, but someone should DO something about it.
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General krulak here:
1. the Squad needs them there yelling!
General,
Just another one of my crazy thoughts, but if that much is true then why not get the players to put their hands in their pockets to drop the prices for this game?
Lets say we have a 2,000 allocation, at £55 per ticket this amounts to £110,000 in the filths coffers. If the players had a collection and raised £55k then the prices could be dropped to a very reasonable £27.50 per ticket. I'm sure that £55k spread across our senior squad is a paltry amount of money to professional footballers, and I reckon this would make great PR as well. 'Mercenary' modern day footballers helping out the fans and actually paying them for their support on hostile territory, who'd have thought it? :winkold:
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General Krulak here:
2. Not sure what Mr. Gold is after other than publicity. When you get down in the mud and wrestle with a pig, the pig loves it...and you get muddy. I think I will just let him continue to talk.
Oh I do hope that one makes the papers, Simon Jordan eat your heart out 8)
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Good one Witton. I thought you were gonna post the one of the young kid who punches a few innocent kids around, then walks away happy only to be decked by an ex-boxer who watched it all happen. Brilliant youtube moment
I'd forgotten about that one
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Insult TATU again
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If it's any consolation I'd shag the pair of them something rotton , just I'd wear earplugs as I do it :-)
OK fair enough the fights off
Remember me and my mate sitting through the entire Eurovision a few years back, they were worth the wait. I suspect that's taking sad lechery to new heights though....
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Feel compelled to bump this post as it's possibly the worse cover version i've ever heard but my Itunes shuffle just dished out "how soon is now " by T.A.T.U
Morrissey come back all is forgiven
Insult TATU again and we'll be fighting in the Holte Car Park first game of the season, pal :x
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General Krulak here:
2. The person who has impressed me the most has been, as you might expect, MON. You might say that "he isn't on the Squad" or "that is an easy way out" but I would disagree. In many ways, MON is not only a true squad member, but he is the foundation of the squad. His personality, focus, drive, intelligence, and honesty impose themselves on the Squad and, in the end, will transform the Squad into what we all want....consistent winners. His choice is not the "easy way out"...his choice is a well-thought out answer to the question.
OK then General, lets ask you a question that stands less chance of getting you into trouble
Which goal scored by Villa this season impressed you the most, or excited you the most? Easy one for me it was Carews first goal for us at VP - combined with his all round play I just knew that at last we'd got a proper striker.
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Am I going mad or does Mellberg look like Stifler from American Pie in that pic?
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General Krulak here:
sometimes can even bum a cup of coffee if I am good.
No, I won't say it
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General Krulak here:
He will be fine but it will take a wee bit of healing.
Let me say one thing about Petrov. I watched him very closely....and I watched Gerrard very closely. For all the Fans who are down on Petrov, I would encourage them to think about that game and whether or not Gerrard was a factor at all...and if not, why not?
I will bring up, again, the issue of away fans. I do think we are making headway but even I ran into some when I was visiting the Holte End. I was civilized but I did ask to see their tickets and will find out how they got them.
'wee bit of healing' hmmm, there's a man that's spending too much time with Martin O'Neill right there!!
I've been moaning about Petrov for a few weeks now but yes, he was one of the better players on Sunday, if he plays like that more often then we'll have ourselves a player - I just hope he does it because he wasn't cheap.
Away fans - the situation does seem to have improved this year, again it's going to take time to discover all the various ways and means people acquire tickets and do something about it. I'd like to thank you for that though General, something should have been done about this sorry state of affairs 10 years ago, nice to see it finally happening.
I hope you're right about Martin O'Neill, I really do.
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Please keep this thread on topic and relevent to The General
Someone obviously couldn't read what John wrote above, then they failed to see the further warning only a few posts later and as a consequence their post has been deleted
This topic isnt for discussing managers or tactics or any of the usual message board type stuff, its not in the Generals remit here - please please please respect this - Bicks
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I didn't think it was a penalty personally - I thought it had to be deliberate for that, or denying a clear goalscoring opportunity.
Oh and I'd have made Ronaldo take the penalty again too.
Plus if that had been at the Stretford End and it was a Man U player who got his hands in the way of the ball, what's the chances of the ref giving a penalty? Nil, I'd say.
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It would be hard for me to compare him with a football player in the UK. He would rank at the very top of the best to have ever played the game. Understand that he played in the 50's-60's and set every record there was to set during that time frame. When they ran a poll to see who were the best players in the past 100 years, Jim Brown's name was on everyone's ballot.
And as Richard Pryor once said "back then he was the only black guy playing too so you know no-one was blocking for his ass"
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Has everyone forgotten the mighty Simon Stainrod?
Calzaghe-Kessler, Fight Fight Fight Fight!
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The only point I was making was that I thought the judges scoring was out of line, and the BBC agreed with me!!
As for the Jones and Hopkins thing - it's fine to say it makes no common sense but those are the kind of risks you have to take to prove yourself. Case in point is Mayweather taking a piss poor purse compared to De La Hoya this year in order to beat the man. The reasoning behind Calzaghe expecting to take a 50-50 or even a 60-40 split for a fight with Jones or Hopkins back in the day was just bollocks, he was only a WBO belt holder and the other guys were undisputed champions, which is why they demanded the bigger share of the purse. That's the way boxing works, and always has worked - with a few obvious exceptions.
Interesting analysis on how to beat Calzaghe by Bunce.
Oh and yes, paper champion was correct until last night - my major gripe with this guy is he should have done this YEARS ago, I can't understand why anyone would argue this point??!