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2 minutes ago, thunderball said:

Reading are still laughing.

Mind you I think that stopped when they bought Bacuna.

I used to quite like Bacuna. He was a massive cod piece but I remember some great free kicks and he had an eye for goal outfield too. Not sure what Reading have done to him!

4 minutes ago, thunderball said:

This Villareport is a windup account isn't it, have they got anything right? This is clearly a joke tweet

It wouldn't be the first time Tshibola's name has been an unfunny punchline.

7 minutes ago, snowychap said:

By Cummings's christmases, I didn't mean Brexit or even a messy, no deal Brexit but the aftermath and the potential opportunity that affords to fundamentally change the nature of this country and its institutions.

Cummings is about tearing shit down and not necessarily rebuilding it.

This is far, far bigger than Brexit and our relationship to the EU for the likes of him. That was just a vehicle (as Johnson is).

Edit: That didn't come across as properly sympathetic to those who will and are suffering already. Sorry. I know there are many in that predicament (or worrying that they will be) but it might turn out to be as nothing compared to what may come down the line.

No sympathy needed! My dad will be fine as he has enough money away to get through and is quite close to retiring anyway, although I can't speak to the warehouse workers!

It's more just that you do hear from the odd VT'er who voted for Brexit and the general consensus around multitudes being out of work is that "it won't happen", "the BoE and treasury are always wrong" etc. There are real consequences to this ****, my family are feeling them. It's worth it because the EU is "undemocratic" and we're "taking back control"....tell me how that's worth people being out of work.

19 minutes ago, snowychap said:

Indeed. That was always the biggest lie of them all.

We now, effectively, have the architect of a messy, no deal Brexit (Cummings) in charge of government policy. Potentially all of his christmases have come true. Worryingly, a lot of us will be the dogs that get tied up in a bag and dumped in the local river the week afterwards.

It's already happened/happening.

My dad was served his redundancy notice this week as the company he works for ceases to exist the day after no deal. They deal in EU import licenses, complicated stuff I don't fully understand. He's been told that if the circumstances (i.e. we stayed in/got some sort of satisfactory deal, somehow) changed the company would continue and he'd be re-employed on a short term contract.

I went to a meeting with the CEO of a company the other day who import protein shakes and distribute to the EU and she said "if it's no deal we'll need to relocate our warehouse to the EU as our product contains whey and we have no framework for exporting animal products to the EU". 4 people made redundant overnight.

This mornings latest brexit bullshit is that if Johnson loses a vote of no confidence he'll simply ignore it and press on anyway. Apparently constitutionally that's fine.

Taking back control and all that...

1 minute ago, cyrusr said:

forcing the prime minister to either call a vote on the issue, go back to the EU to seek a further extension or possibly call a GE

I'd love for Boris to be ordered to go to the EU and request an extension thereby destroying his loathsome political career but I suspect he'll fight tooth and nail to resist that humiliation and even if he lost that fight he'd surely just resign rather than publicly look like a massive heel?

9 minutes ago, ChrisVillan said:

Brighton slapped an extra 5m on Dunk within minutes of Maguire becoming almost official. 

Thius is the reason why you sign replacements before you let your man go.

21 minutes ago, PieFacE said:

Bournemouth want more than £75m for Ake. WTF. 

This will be Leicester's problem now. Any player they go for the price is instantly jacked up becuase the sellers know they're minted. They're either going to have to pay silly money or look abroad for cheaper options.

17 minutes ago, snowychap said:

 

Ah but you're forgetting he's not French so the xenophobes are fine with it.

1 minute ago, chrisp65 said:

by random luck, I was up around Brecon today

39% of those that voted, voted for a man that was guilty of faking invoices for artwork for his office, whilst he also voted repeatedly to reduce people's welfare benefits

absolute toilet of a man, utterly devoid of self awareness or humility, convicted fraudster

39% voted for him

stay classy Brecon tories

None of that matters as long as he can bring back their blue passports

30 minutes ago, Xann said:

If people want to address trickle down for Toffs and tax evasion for chums? They're going to have to elect the 'unelectable'.

Every year it doesn't happen the parasites become more bloated.

True but you also need to address those issues in a diplomatic way.

You want to get elected so you can tackle "toffs and tax evaders" . You can't get elected without winning over at least some of the media. The media is largely run by "toffs and tax evaders".

Perhaps he could have tempered the rhetoric at least until he was elected?

29 minutes ago, Wainy316 said:

How do you become 'electable' though without pandering to Murdoch et al?

 

When's the last time the below wasn't the case? 

 

I guess it depends what you mean by "pandering".

It's cliche but "politics is the art of compromise" has always been true and is even more so if you want to be in power. Blair proved it was possible to win over some of that section of the press by moving into a more centre position. Corbyn has also been openly hostile to those media corporations from day 1. He can't complain of media bias while he and his supporters have a go at them at every opportunity. I suspect he's decided he doesn't want their support anyway as it fits his agenda to look like a victim and preach against them from opposition.

2 hours ago, LondonLax said:

They are done as a party. Brexit has broken them. 

They aren't done as a party. Corbyn is the definition of unelectable. He's the problem.

Thing is I'm not sure he (or his die-hard pseudocommunist followers) actually care. They're quite happy with glorious failure, even if it means a lifetime of Tories f***ing up the country. They haven't quite grasped that you might be happy with a manifesto and think you've got some good ideas but if you're unelectable you'll never implement any of them.

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-orders-brexit-countdown-clock-for-downing-street-11775054

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A Brexit countdown clock worth an estimated £500 has been delivered to Downing Street as time ticks down to 31 October.

The timepiece will be displayed in Prime Ministers Boris Johnson's office, Number 10 confirmed.

A similar clock has also been hung in Conservative Party headquarters below a message saying "we will have delivered Brexit and left the EU by".

**** me. The people running the country are literally behaving like children...do they honestly think this shit impresses anybody with a functioning brain?

17 minutes ago, bickster said:

Tory majority could be gone by morning. B&R collection plus Phillip Lee considering defecting to LibDems

Which would be significant at a time when the government was making an attempt to actually govern through seeking to pass legislation...

Just watched an interview with Dyche on SSN. Came across really really well. Seemed to be genuinely gutted to lose Heaton and you really felt like he's got a lot of respect for his players.

Not often you see a manager speak in glowing terms for a couple of minutes about a player they've just lost.

It's clear we're in the calm before the inevitable storm. Parliament returns on 5th September and then they all go away for Conference on 14th September until early October.

There's barely any sitting days left now. Lord Vader made flesh IDS gave the game away when he said "any legislation brought forward will be hijacked, so we won't bring any forward"...Can this folly realistically be stopped now?

9 minutes ago, Xann said:

Family holidays have started.

It's all diesel's fault...

Enjoy retirement, parasite.

1 minute ago, chrisp65 said:

It's beginning to look to me that it's a lot more complicated than just in / out, we won the war.

 

It's almost like, really important and detailed and everything has a consequence which needs consideration.

 

Just as well we've replaced an incompetent control freak who's main concern was preservation of the tory party with a narcissistic clown child who's main concern is instant likes.

He'll probably cost you your job and financial security....but he is very enthusiastic! 

8 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said:

I think the plan came first and the recruitment matched it.  I reckon Dean is happy as **** with the squad we've built.

They've trusted Deano, Suso and Purslow with all that money. Would have been easy for them to decide it was too big a risk to give a manager unaccustomed to spending big and no Prem experience that kind of money. I think we have to give NSWE massive credit.

1 minute ago, Demitri_C said:

You know that was one of the first things I was talking to my friends about when Cameron said he was going to do a vote on this - how the he'll do you deal with Ireland if we went out.

I can't see what the hell the solution is going to be if we were to leave.

What would peoples reactions here be if there is a u-turn and we stayed in?

I'd prefer to stay in but would have initially accepted a solution that included customs union and access to the single market.

As things have gone on and seeing how May took us to literally hours from armageddon and Johnson being (a) Johnson about no deal I don't see why we can't have another vote.

I read a good satire the other day that basically said...If remain had won, can you imagine if Cameron had taken that as a mandate for "hard remain" i.e. full federal integration and becoming essentially United States of Europe? There was a mandate to leave, I accept that, but it was a slender one and it wasn't a mandate to leave at all costs. Most sensible people who voted out thought we'd get a deal and it would be done in the least damaging way. The rest were hardcore bigots, racists and deregulators who had very sinister agendas. The slim mandate that was provided has been hijacked by lunatics. Between that and the fact we've had 3 years where the government couldn't even pass legislation to make taking photos of people genitals up their garments illegal tells you we need a change of approach.

3 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

A compromise for me would be let the existing format for Ireland remain as it is.

Britain pays the divorce bill as we call it whoever for that figure we should still.obtain some of the benefits we currently get without being tied in.

I agree it is rubbish - we are better staying in without question. All these people I hear when talking to them saying let's leave with no deal will be better . I always ask how?? 

Then the usual response is we make our own.laws

Sounds easy until you realise that we plan to do trade deals with countries whose standards aren't recognised by EU, you get a defacto border in the irish sea to protect the single market. NI ceases to be part of the UK, economically speaking. For that reason, the solution has been problematic for the DUP and anyone who gives a shit about keeping the UK together as it exists now.

4 minutes ago, snowychap said:

Yes, that didn't take long. Just under an hour.

If that's how they're going to play this they're daring the likes of hammond, letwin etc to vote against them in VONC

The evil plan emerges...