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Going to the land of sheep and male voice choirs for a few days. Sister had a static caravan so I ain't turning down a free holiday

Also going to visit Portmeirion, been meaning too that since the 90s

i once went to a static caravan with the in laws . Lots of friction though

Sparks were flying, were they?

Going to the land of sheep and male voice choirs for a few days. Sister had a static caravan so I ain't turning down a free holiday

Also going to visit Portmeirion, been meaning too that since the 90s

I tend to listen to music i like regardless of the personality of the people writing or performing it

And in that regard The Smiths are ok in my book

That don't make sense. Saying the Smiths are OK means that you are saying you are judging the music on the group. If you had said track xyz which happens to be by the Smiths is OK then that would be more in what you claimed.

As it is everything the Smiths have ever put out is absolute and utter bilge so you can categorise them easily :-)

If incomes were not so low for so many people, taxes would not be an issue. Low pay is the problem.

Wasn't the minimum wage introduced to eradicate low pay?

The issue now is that many companies use it as the norm rather than what it should have been, ie a minimum. Ironically i read a report last couple of days about the many many company directors who are non doms to avoid taxes here in the uk. I suppose minimum wage or even god forbid a living wage would concern them

It would just get stuck like it would with a vase.

 

 

Stupid lies-

"I'm 42....well, 39, actually." -My auto mechanic

He'd rather be 42 than 39?

 

 

42 is the new 39.

 

Meaning of life is 42

GTFO - Get the Fist out?

Wearing fancy dress, dancing like a dad and drinking lots of beer

It's my son's wedding - football themed wedding tables etc - including one called Villa Park and one called  De Kuip :-)

http://twentytwowords.com/danish-soccer-fans-bomb-their-crosstown-rivals-stadium-in-an-amazing-cannonball-display/

FCK in Copenhagen showing a great fan display

The heating is on full blast in this bastard hospital and it's 18c out

worst country and western song ever

Nah, probably joined a cult.

Good way around the swear filter there  .....

I hope the new owners find the negative people on this board and others, offer them ferry tickets to Normandy, and then shoot them from machine gun nests as they struggle up the beach with their luggage wheels keep getting stuck in the sand.

Nice ....

Managed two pages of the "Take Over" thread. *sigh* Doomed I tells ya!  

ADHD?   :-)

*lube's up*

but Gold is down ...... looks like the Lube market is the one to invest in

Who's going to tell Baselayers she's a bloke?

 

Who's going to tell VA he's a bird?

 

Who's going to tell VA's mum?

 

Baselayer's legitimacy has been questioned before, and you know what? Who cares?

 

It was an inspired choice if it is a ruse, fair play.

Who's going to tell Donnie that he's a duck?

Who's going to tell Xann what to do?

Who's going to tell Pilchard that he's a Spratt?

Who's going to tell Limpid to walk?

The list is endless

Who's Marie?

Using Wiki as the source here is a summary of VAT rates and who raised them and who lowered them

History

Between October 1940 and 1973 the UK had a consumption tax called Purchase Tax, which was levied at different rates depending on the goods' luxuriousness.^[3] Purchase Tax was applied to the wholesale price, initially at a rate of 33¹⁄₃%. This was doubled in April 1942 to 66²⁄₃%, and further increased in April 1943 to a rate of 100%, before reverting in April 1946 to 33¹⁄₃% again. Unlike VAT, Purchase Tax was applied at the point of manufacture and distribution, not at the point of sale. The rate of Purchase Tax at the start of 1973, when it gave way to VAT, was 25%.

On 1 January 1973 the UK joined the European Economic Community and as a consequence Purchase Tax was replaced by Value Added Tax on 1 April 1973.^[3][6][7] The then Conservative Chancellor Lord Barber set a single VAT rate (10%) on most goods and services.^[3][6][7]

In July 1974, Labour Chancellor Denis Healey reduced the standard rate of VAT from 10% to 8% but introduced a new higher rate of 12.5% for petrol and some luxury goods.^[3][6][8] In November 1974 Healey doubled the higher rate of VAT to 25%.^[6] Healey reduced the higher rate back to 12.5% in April 1976.^[6][8][9]

Conservative Chancellor Geoffrey Howe increased the standard rate of VAT from 8% to 15% and abolished the higher rate in June 1979.^[3][6][10] The rate remained unchanged until 1991, when Conservative Chancellor Norman Lamont increased it from 15% to 17.5%.^[3][6][10] The additional revenue was used to pay for a reduction in the hugely unpopular community charge.^[10] During the 1992 general election the Conservatives promised not to extend the scope of VAT, but, in March 1993, Lamont announced that domestic fuel and power, which had previously been zero-rated, would have VAT levied at 8% from April 1994 and the full 17.5% from April 1995.^[7][11] The planned introduction of VAT on domestic fuel and power went ahead in April 1994, but the increase from 8% to 17.5% in April 1995 was scuppered in December 1994, after the government lost the vote in parliament.^[6][11]

In its 1997 general election manifesto, the Labour Party pledged to reduce VAT on domestic fuel and power to 5%.^[12] After gaining power, the new Labour Chancellor Gordon Brown announced in June 1997 that the lower rate of VAT on domestic fuel and power would be reduced from 8% to 5% with effect from 1 September 1997.^[13][14] In November 1997, Brown announced that the VAT on installation of energy saving materials would be reduced from 17.5% to 8% from 1 July 1998. Brown subsequently reduced VAT from 17.5% to 8% on sanitary protection products (from 1 January 2001); children's car seats (from 1 April 2001); conversion and renovation of certain residential properties (from 12 May 2001); contraceptives (from 1 July 2006); and smoking cessation products (from 1 July 2007).

In response to the late-2000s recession, Labour Chancellor Alistair Darling announced in November 2008 that the standard rate of VAT would be reduced from 17.5% to 15% with effect from 1 December 2008.^[15][16] In December 2009, Darling announced that the standard rate of VAT would return to 17.5% with effect from 1 January 2010.^[17][18]

In the run up to the 2010 general election there were reports that the Conservatives would raise VAT if they gained power.^[19][20][21] The party denied the reports.^[22][23] Following the election in May 2010, the Conservatives formed a coalition government with the Liberal Democrats and in June 2010 Conservative Chancellor George Osborne announced that the standard rate of VAT would increase from 17.5% to 20% with effect from 4 January 2011.^[24][25]

Are you guys forgetting that VAT has been raised from 17.5% to 20%?

Wasn't it dropped from 20% to 17.5% in a politically motivated, but highly ignorant moment, only to be raised again?

Pl Is certainly one to partly blame

Hopefully that is the last we'll see of Lambert. Worst manager I have seen down the club.

Not been a fan long then??

You disagree?

25 years I can remember. Can't quite remember McNeil but Lambert has even been worse than Venglos

I do - been a villa fan more than twice as long - so have seen worse (managers and players). Lambert is one in a line we have had with two chairmen who cut costs - one did at least put his on money into the club and one who just took money out.

What you after a medal for being older?! Xela used the term "worst manager he can remember".

What a stupid comment!!! All I said was had he been a fan for long! and I pointed out that in MY Time I had seen worse so what's your problem??

Just get out of our club the sooner the bloody better. One of if not the worst villa managers i have seen in over40 years watching the club. Clueless tactically clueless motivational wise clueless all round.

Photo Organising software = what are most people using these days. Irealised I have quite a few installed and its become a mess

Ha marr was just discussing another story about use of N word and re-branded it as the Clarkson word :-)

12" rule

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