Awol

1 minute ago, Robtaylor200 said:

Surely he is off side 

Cash played him on 

If we don’t win this game there should be an official club complaint going in for the standard of officiating. Between the Moreno goal and the pen we’ve been completely robbed today. 

What is the **** point of VAR? Absolute **** joke. 

Get in the bin was that off 

24 minutes ago, LondonLax said:

Ukraine claiming three jets downed this morning 

 

 

The designers at Raytheon certainly never envisioned Patriot being used as a mobile system to conduct air ambushes. Great work by the Ukrainians.

On 15/02/2024 at 16:38, Panto_Villan said:

This might be what the Russian satellite is - a electronic warfare satellite with a nuclear power source, rather than a nuclear-armed satellite.

That would certainly make more sense.

 

Make of this what you will 

1 hour ago, Genie said:

At least that suggests it hasn’t happened yet. A nuke seems overkill doesn’t it? Surely a regular missile could comfortably take out satellites.

Setting off a nuke in low earth orbit would make low earth orbit unusable indefinitely. What it didn’t destroy would be destroyed over time by the accumulated debris - like the movie Gravity. 

It makes zero sense.

31 minutes ago, villa89 said:

I'm not an expert but isn't it more likely to be some form a laser weapon rather than a nuclear warhead. There are many obstacles to getting nuclear material launched into space and getting it back out of space safely (if needed).

Also if it is a weapon in space then why don't Russia just announce it? Not much anyone can do about it once it's already up there. 

It could just be an anti-satellite weapon like a new type of laser, yes. What doesn’t make sense is why, in that case, it would cause such a big flap? 

Countries don’t always advertise their newest weapon systems, because if the enemy doesn’t know you have it, they can’t start preparing counter measures or trying to build one of their own.

We call those, secrets  

7 minutes ago, sidcow said:

I can't believe Russia would have the technical capacity to fire Nuclear Weapons from space, especially with any kind of accuracy.  All of their wonder tech seems to be nothing more then a mirage. 

In fairness they can fire them now from under water, into space, and then back into the atmosphere to hit a target 1000’s of Kms away. 
 
Dropping it to earth 160km up (with a little bit of booster and guidance to re-enter the atmosphere in the right place) doesn’t seem beyond their technical capability. 

6 minutes ago, magnkarl said:

Surely this will push this Ukraine deal through faster than you can say potatoes right?

In a sane world, yes. But in sane world it would’ve been passed last September. Unless Trump flips to backing Ukraine, which he absolutely won’t, this probably changes nothing.

 The thing that’s got everyone in the US scurrying around could just be some kind of new anti-satellite system, but the scale of the flap is highly unusual, which is what makes me think it’s likely nuclear related. 

12 minutes ago, Genie said:

ITV news just reported on it as breaking news, no details except for believed to be related to Russia 

it might still be something that non-nuclear, but given the flap in the US that seems unlikely.

If you think about space like a littoral zone that touches every part of the earth, nukes positioned in orbit are the equivalent of attacking a country from offshore but really close to its coastline. Seconds of warning before impact, zero opportunity for anti ballistic missile defences to intercept. 

If it is a nuclear weapon then it’s an attempt to overcome existing defences and gain a first strike advantage in any potential conflict. 

1 minute ago, Genie said:

So the Americans gonna shoot it out of the sky/space then?

No. 

US Defence officials now confirm it’s a new space based capability that’s causing concern.

Nukes in space. Haha, FFS.

Speculation that a Russian satellite launched 5 days ago with a classified payload may be carrying a nuclear warhead or warheads. 

That would be an interesting escalation, if it turns out to be correct.

Sounds like something serious is up. I thought it might be Iranian nuclear programme at first but hints now it might be Russia related. We should fine out fairly soon, though. The fact discussion with allies was referenced in the statement implies a European dimension. Very unusual. 

I’ll say it again, this ref is an utter cock womble 

Diaby a confidence free zone 

2 minutes ago, Tom13 said:

If I'm not convinced by Ramsey, I should be allowed to say it, without @Troglodyte having a bitch fit, tbf.

I’m just laughing at the divs threatening to fight each other. Hilarious tbh 

One of those days, we’re doomed, **** off villa etc. 

here we go!! 

**** beauty 

What we’re not doing in this game is breaking in numbers, that slows down any break and then we can’t break down the low block 

Feels like an equaliser is coming tbh 

1 minute ago, The_Steve said:

Cash's decision making at times is baffling 

Like a very enthusiastic golden retriever 

Varane not booked there is a joke