Gringo

Petchey still has midas touch Personally think they have got the wrong end of the stick, 2 + 2 = 5 type thinking.

No, cuddly won't be able to say anything because of an ongoing bid situation that he isn't able to discuss for obvious reasons, but it will all become clear in the next few weeks or so, and we'll all go along with it and wait for xmas like naughty little schoolchildren. Ellis isn't selling. When Ellis does cough it, Jack 'I do a lot for charidee' Petchey will pick the bones.

I'm with Gringo on this, if the Comer deal is on the back burner or worse why are Rothschild not trying to get the cash into B6 rather than Liverplop? Or are we not their most important/attractive investment opportunity and/or their highest priority? you may not realise this but Villa are a poorly performing lower Premiership club in a half dead city called brum. Liverpool are the present European cup holders in the top 4 of the Prem with a super team and manager with a vibrant board in a vibrant city. anwer the question ?? Nope. When buying companies it is an unusual policy to go after those where it is difficult to increase profits. Therefore you buy the club with potential to achieve, not those that have just over achieved.

You haven't got an option of 'sad'

Whilst Villa struggle to find a buyer, cash carries on sloshing into other clubs (potentially) IndyOnSundy Strange that - you'd have thought that they'd be advising him to talk to us? Merchant bank introduces willing buyer to willing seller? Not that appointing rothschild to issue press releases would be a smokescreen or anything. Meanwhile Villa's next owner continued the process of liquidating his assets to pump into his charity. Torygraph

They have as much interest in Aston Villa Football Club as cuddly has in spending his own money. ellis has run the club into the ground until the only people interested in it will be the vultures looking to pick the bones.

No, he won the Lotto and then his brothers built a company with £1bn of assets - wonder where they got the start up capital from? No one ever mentions the level of their liabilities and anyone with experience of working with property companies will realise that much of this asset bank is mortgaged to provide liquid cash to fund further purchases/developments. Worth = assets - liabilities Anyone looked at their accounts to see what the level of long term debt that the Comers have? I'd expect it to be considerable, may be up to 50% of their assets. Poor lads, they're probably only worth half a billion after all.

I'm sure that some people suggested that this was just a smokescreen back in November, again in December and January etc etc etc However these mad irrational postings were rightly poo-poo'd by the more intelligent and worldy wise forum members with their greater understanding of all things Villa politik and their inside information on how it was all progressing so smoothly and their inate understanding that for once, or at long last, cuddly was telling the truth. Ho hum.

"Hello reporter chap, did I tell you that I invented immortality?"

Well on one hand he may be dissappointed that his shares are notionally worth a couple million less On the other hand he may be smiling thinking thats a few million less he will have to bung heidi at the wake.

"Until things change" - sounded to me like he was waiting for the old man to cough it. DOL sounded like ginge reads, despondent, pissed off, no clue in how anything is progressing or how it's going to progress. It doesnt matter what your job is, when there is total lack of direction in an organisation, the organisation goes nowhere.

And if I was a large shareholding septuagenarian with one hand on the trophy, I might be having a few words with our operations director, nae chairman elect and tell him to keep a keen eye on things until the new dawn, and I'd make sure he's lwell ooked after. Yup we're fcuked.

If he has, I wonder how he has Denis? Hmmmm, wonder if someone's done a deal? And the new septuagenarian owner is.........

Probably more proof linking him with this one than there was with the dando murder

Locals not impressed with Dubya's planet of the apes impressions

Is based on the other 4 Ian. They will be the ones valuing the company on one of the other 4 methods Accountants - the price of everything and the value of nothing.

And in this case the most important one. Football clubs do not behave or perform financially as other companies do.

Was he? The more times you say it, the more you believe it hey? Nope. That is one way to realise his gains, probably the simplest. A smart business man will know that there is more than one way to skin a goat. And a crook knows even more ways. quack.

i think Ali might have meant asking price. should elies meet his maker, i believe whoever wil then inherit his shares would want as quick and smooth as sale of them as possible. hence they'd take a lower price to get rid quickly. Once sold, i'd expect the share price to increase somewhat ..... So if you happened to be sitting on 20% of the shares that you bought for buttons, wouldn't it make sense to snap up the other 80% that are suddenly worth buttons following our great leaders demise, flog off some land* to pay off the short term debts and then package it up and sell at a nice profit to some mysterious sheikh/russkie/cocaine dealer/property developer etc etc. When you think about it, that might even be a more profitable route than selling your 20% at only £4.80 a share. quack. *to some completely unrelated company at a completely fair market price of course. maybe Gringo. But for petchey, an unneccessary gamble IMO. if he sold now he'd still be making a decent profit anyway. To hang on until elies leaves this world (arguably he did that a long time ago) and then attempt to but all shares at a reduced price and then sell at an inflated one is a big gamble IMO. Investors could just as easily by Elies shares once he's gone as Petchey could. and then offer peanuts for Petchey's allocation. orm Petchey could then buy all the shares and find no takers for AVFC at the price he wants. He'd be lumbered. If he ran us into the ground to make money and then tried to sell us, the proposition would be even less tempting for bidders. AVFC is worth less if Petchey has sold the land! so i can see Petchey wanting a sale sooner rather than later. there's more certainty now than when Elies leaves us. Petchey gambled three years ago when he started buying. He picked up 20% of the club for about £4m. So whatever happens, he isnt going to lose, its a case of how he plays his hand. I'm sure he will be in pole position to make Heidi a very merry widow. He has a headstart on any other 'investor' and would be clear favourite if he decided to race. You never know, it might already be a done deal But say it isn't and heidi sold up to bill and ben for £x per share. Bill and ben would then be forced to extend that offer to the rest of the shareholders. JP could make a counter offer of £x+10%. Bill and Ben would then have to offer more or sell up to JP for a quick 10% profit. If they offer more, JP counter offers until he achieves the price he wants. I really don't see any plausible turn of events where JP is going to lose any money. And the type of bidders who would be put off by the dissappearance of the land are the sort of buyers we should be wary of. Not that we have any influence of course

No idea and neither had anyone else I gathered Malcolm? Are you talking to yourself?

i think Ali might have meant asking price. should elies meet his maker, i believe whoever wil then inherit his shares would want as quick and smooth as sale of them as possible. hence they'd take a lower price to get rid quickly. Once sold, i'd expect the share price to increase somewhat ..... So if you happened to be sitting on 20% of the shares that you bought for buttons, wouldn't it make sense to snap up the other 80% that are suddenly worth buttons following our great leaders demise, flog off some land* to pay off the short term debts and then package it up and sell at a nice profit to some mysterious sheikh/russkie/cocaine dealer/property developer etc etc. When you think about it, that might even be a more profitable route than selling your 20% at only £4.80 a share. quack. *to some completely unrelated company at a completely fair market price of course.

1) Why would the share price plummet if cuddly croaked? He is the one holding the club back, not the one holding the club together. 2) Any quotes from petchey regarding his willingness to sell? Petchey is interested in making money. If he can sell for a big profit he will, if he can take control of a premiership club for peanuts he will. quack.

You are either being pedantic or taking the line out of context.

That would be interesting! Who are the other people? Comers? Banks? Petchey? What other actors are in this play? Mystery bidder? Who could hold it up for four months?

Sometimes they record interviews beforehand, and then play them at a time of day they want to catpure listeners! If there was a price sensitive announcement to be made, you wouldnt be parading the fact beforehand and you wouldnt be announcing it as an exclusive on a provincial radio station. I do hope he really is the messiah, but I still think he's just a naughty boy.