MessiWillSignForVilla

On 13/11/2021 at 22:28, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said:

Agbonlahor, James Collins and Richard Dunne were 3 who fell out with him anyway. Hopefully there is a much higher level of professionalism in the current squad.

I'll never forgive those three for how they acted after O'Neill left, especially after finding out why Dunne was so upset at Houllier.

Apparently Houllier, a Frenchman, had the gall to celebrate France beating Ireland in the 2010 World Cup playoff as he left the stadium and that's why Dunne never gave him a chance at Villa. He says it was because he was a "UEFA official" and should've been neutral about it, which; 1) he's still French, let him celebrate France getting to the World Cup, and 2) he was a **** advisor to the FFF at the time! Collins just went along with it because Dunne hated him and I wouldn't be surprised if Gabby was the same. Or maybe he just disliked putting effort in to training.

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15 minutes ago, Big Salad said:

I don't see how saying you don't 100% agree with or like the hire means you don't support the team. That shows we care about the team because we are concerned with the hire. For those in the unenthusiastic about this hire camp as I am just want the best for Villa, have no personal vendetta against Gerrard, and I am quite sure we all want him to prove us wrong. I want him to succeed because it means we are succeeding.

It just does my head in when somebody doesn't agree or back every single thing a club does, it automatically means we don't support the club. That's just ridiculous.

Again I sincerely hope he does prove a lot of people wrong and I support him in doing so, but will have my reservations until that happens.

There was a post from someone saying they wanted us to lose the next 5 games just so Gerrard would be sacked as soon as possible. There are plenty in here that are clearly willing to throw away their support of the club due to  a childish dislike of Gerrard.

5 minutes ago, mrchnry said:

He's the Head of European sport at the economist. 

Does the Economist even have a sport section?

26 minutes ago, Zatman said:

Wasn't he a German guy we took from Arsenal. FWIW having somebody study Football Manager isn't a bad thing was probably ahead of his time in terms of thinking out of the box ideas

Whilst it probably isn't at the level you could stick it on your CV and get a job, I imagine on that side of the football world you'd get a lot of funny looks if you didn't play FM.

1 minute ago, hippo said:

Why would Gerrard turn down the endless riches of Newcastle then choose us a couple of weeks later ?

Because Newcastle is a really shit job right now, even with those riches. Sure you have a load to spend in Jan, but that's the only positive, you also have -

- A shit squad

- A relegation fight

- Shit facilities

- a fanbase expecting them to become the next Man City/PSG

- A new board expecting them to become the next Man City/PSG

- did I mention they have a really shit squad?

Whoever was the first to take that job was always going to be set up to fail, as they basically need someone to come in, steady the ship and build a platform to push on from (ironically, what Bruce did with us) but with an expectation and funds to do much more, no ambitious manager is going to risk **** that up and having it on their CV with all the pressure involved, much better to wait for the first sap to do it and then come in when it's a fun job.

It's like some people forgot that despite the takeover, they are still Newcastle.

Such a strange feeling to be so sad a manager has been sacked yet it's completely the right decision 

36 minutes ago, foreveryoung said:

This is a joke yeah?

I can't see Conte or Pep allowing this, I thought the discipline was missing from this team, now I know why..

They are gonna have one hell of a shock when a new manager comes in.

Really? Because I'm pretty sure City train at 4pm on Thursdays to accomodate mid week travel.

1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said:

It's worth keeping in mind that these are players that have their sleep recorded by the club through monitoring devices. The days of this sort of thing being done on feel and instinct aren't with us any more. It'll be working if it shows well in tests on whatever metrics they use; blood oxygen levels or whatever.

 

 

It's also scientifically proven that exercising in the early afternoon is the best for peak performance.

11 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

LOL

 

Guy Fawkes might have had a point. 

I'll always love ya Deano...

I've lived in Leicestershire my entire life and know loads of Leicester fans, why the **** did my Dad make me become a Villa fan 

2 hours ago, rbcuk said:

Just listened to this, for Smith to say in the last 4 games we’ve only had one bad 45mins, would love to know what he’s been watching compared to what we’ve seen

 

Not what he's said though is it? He said there's only been one really bad 45 minutes and finishes off by saying we've not been on top of our game and need to turn it around. That's not saying we've only been bad for those 45 minutes, but just that that's the only half where we've been utterly battered by a team.

Sounds to me like a manager saying we've not been good enough but that we've been close enough in games to still believe we can turn it around.

Personally, I wouldn't want one of my University lecturers to be a trustee of a hate group, especially if I was a member of the group being targeted. (Fun fact - LGB Alliance support Conversion Therapy, an interesting way of standing up to homophobia, it's like an anti-Racist group supporting segregation)

Here's a good summary of why what Prof. Stock did/said is so bad. (It's long, but you can probably skip the first half as that's mainly discussing the difference between Freedom of Speech and Academic Freedom and highlighting how Prof. Stock's Academic Freedom has in no way been infringed)

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The UK Media Has Seriously Bungled the Kathleen Stock Story

For the last two weeks, Sussex University (my alma mater) has been rocked by crisis. A clear picture emerges from reporting on Sussex in the Guardian, the Times, the Daily Mail, and on the BBC. It goes as follows: Prof. Kathleen Stock, a respected “gender critical” feminist philosopher, has been forced out of her academic job by bomb-lobbing masked students, who are offended by the strong critical stances she has taken on the conflicts between trans rights and women’s rights. Despite the ubiquity of this version of events in UK media, every one of its claims is demonstrably incorrect at the level of fact. By repeating this story until it has been widely believed, the UK media has amplified some of the most extreme and frightening positions within the contemporary debate over civil rights for trans people.

Also, Sex isn't binary. There has been a lot of scientific studies in to it by actual genetecists rather than philosophy professors.

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Stop Using Phony Science to Justify Transphobia
Actual research shows that sex is anything but binary

Antiscientific sentiment bombards our politics, or so says the Intellectual Dark Web (IDW). Chief among these antiscientific sentiments, the IDW cites the rising visibility of transgender civil rights demands. To the IDW, trans people and their advocates are destroying the pillars of our society with such free-speech–suppressing, postmodern concepts as: “trans women are women,” “gender-neutral pronouns,” or “there are more than two genders.” Asserting “basic biology” will not be ignored, the IDW proclaims. “Facts don’t care about your feelings.”

The irony in all this is that these “protectors of enlightenment” are guilty of the very behavior this phrase derides. Though often dismissed as just a fringe internet movement, they espouse unscientific claims that have infected our politics and culture. Especially alarming is that these “intellectual” assertions are used by nonscientists to claim a scientific basis for the dehumanization of trans people. The real world consequences are stacking up: the trans military ban, bathroom bills, and removal of workplace and medical discrimination protections, a 41-51 percent suicide attempt rate and targeted fatal violence . It’s not just internet trolling anymore.

Contrary to popular belief, scientific research helps us better understand the unique and real transgender experience. Specifically, through three subjects: (1) genetics, (2) neurobiology and (3) endocrinology. So, hold onto your parts, whatever they may be. It’s time for “the talk.”

And I highly recommend watching Mhairi Black's Parliament speech from the beginning of Pride month, in which she highlights that much of the arguments against the Trans community are an intentional rehash of 70s/80s homophobia by the Far Right to push their culture war nonsense because Gay people are too accepted now, so they should move the wedge issue to Trans people.

Edit - I always forget about the bloody rule about link extracts! Hope the ones added are ok mods.

4 minutes ago, avfc1982am said:

 

Newcastle supposedly offered to make him the 3rd highest paid manager in the league, and he still rejected them.

1 minute ago, avfc1982am said:

Is he.....How do we know who is willing to take the job on if it becomes available. I think if the owners are ambitious enough then most managers wont be out of our reach. Sooner or later we will have to pay serious wages to a manager if we want to keep moving in the right direction. We have money, great fanbase, great youth.....All geared up for someone like Ten Hag imo. I don't think it's fanciful, ambitious maybe.

He was angling for the Bayern job before Nagelsmann got it, no way Ten Hag goes anywhere that isn't a top European team after Ajax unless he really falls from grace.

43 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said:

Why? Because they’re not playing one of our players who probably isn’t up to the level they require? 

Take the claret and blue specs off. It might be that he’s just not that good. 

Presumably because they loaned him, told us he'd play a lot, and then signed two players in the same position that would be expected to start over him.

Because that guy has never randomly shit slinged at Owen Jones whilst doing something Transphobic.

Also, Owen Jones is right about that tweet, what relevance is there in linking him to someone that tweeted something that seems illegal (I assume it is as presented as there's no reason to doubt it, but it's not like people never lie in their twitter bios for weird reasons), a tweet that had nothing to do with him, just because that person, that doesn't follow him, also replied to one of his tweets? That's something that is totally out of his control and it's a stretch even for guilt by association! It would be like if someone on here liked one of my posts and it turned out they did something illegal, so I got called out for it, what relevance would that have?

The only logical conclusion to me is that he's got an axe to grind, as evidenced by him tweeting about Jones two weeks ago without prompting, and it's par for the course for those TERF twitter weirdos that seem to blame Jones for everything. And judging by the guy's other tweets, yes he's a massive TERF which would make calling him an anti-Trans activist fairly accurate (though whether you can call an anonymous twitter account an "activist", I'm not sure).

Don't care that he makes occasional mistakes, I absolutely love Mings, so proud to have him as our captain, he's a fantastic ambassador for the club.

Just now, bobzy said:

These clearings in the woods:

 

Was just about to post this. It was funny at first, but now he keeps doubling down, why can't the clearing in the woods just admit he said something stupid?

Ok, it's still hilarious that he thinks you can grow concrete 

It's like they're all trying their hardest to get Ole sacked. I love it.

Just now, sidcow said:

Oh man, don't... Just don't.  I can't think of anything that would make me happier. 

Steve Bruce finally getting his shot?

3 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

Whilst this isn’t a defence of Smith and Villa’s progress. I think you really have to look at West Ham’s spending over the past 5-10 years to see how they should be challenging where they are really. People go on about West Ham like they have done wonders and over achieved but in reality they have spent a hell of a lot of money. They were way ahead of us in their progression. We’re playing catch up. 

We really got screwed over by getting relegated when we did, literally the season before the new bumper TV deal that allowed mid table teams to start splashing about £35m-£40m+ transfer fees, it made the gap created by that 3 years out of the league even bigger than it already would've been. It would've been much better to be relegated around 2013 or 2014 instead of circling the drain for years.