LoughboroughLion

Agreed with above. ITK is a bit of fun, and anybody who reads anymore into than that deserves to be upset when/if it doesn't come true.

The unnecessary high five that goes on between every point in doubles tennis.

For what it's worth, I actually agree with most of the above tbh, I don't believe in the vast majority of Christianity, and particularly Catholicism, because it's far too influenced by man and not a 'superior being', as suggested. That said, I disagree with the writings of people like Marx and Freud who suggest it has been developed to suppress people, and that it is 'neurosis of the mind'. But nor to I agree with the Pope, that it should be followed word for word. I think the answer lies somewhere in the middlebrow the two, and religion is useful for some to a certain extent.

I mean really....Do you have to be told that killing each other is a bad thing? It's insane when you think about it .

And what has influenced you when you refer to it as 'insane', your parents, society, or possibly religion to some extent, whether you realise it or not? To use the example of Darrow and the case that saw him successfully defend two young men against the death penalty. He said they were 'compelled' to murder. In that circumstance, it is argued that the two young men believed murder to be acceptable. But you saying the concept of murder is insane shows how the human mind can create a separate set of morals for different people.

For this reason I see a set of core values very useful to society,whether that be religion or something completely different.

We can pick the values we wish to live by, I agree with you StanBalaban. But would people live by them if not promoted by religion. While some are outdated, such as those found in Leviticus, the foundation of our laws are mostly present in the scriptures of Christianity. If those scriptures never existed and didn't influence us, would our moral compasses differ? It's an interesting one, and we won't find out. I suppose in one way, if you look at those civilisations never influenced by western philosophy, you can see they contain different values. Better or worse ones? We could discuss all day long.

The world would be a much better place if there was none of this religion bullshit.

Religion was created to try to stop people being scared to die and to try and convince them to be good.

I disagree with your top statement, because of your second. For me, this is one of the reasons I am positive about the presence of religion. I can't talk for other religions, but Christianity (on the whole) teaches a good set of values, that if we all lived by, we would be a little better off.

lowton is a jobber.

I suppose, at least he's not cobbywobble though.

I'm not really bothered where a player comes from, what age they are (under 30). If they are a) better than we've got, cheap and c) good, then sign them up

If the religious ideas are learnt and balanced against the beliefs of say, Richard Dawkins and other points of view, I think it can be very useful.

Atheism is the lack of belief (in god(s)). I guess the atheist part of your course was a little light if you came away thinking that Dawkins' atheism is a belief.

My reference to Richard Dawkins was regarding his writings on things such as miracles and religious expirience. I accept he is an atheist, but not sure where that came into my original post? My point being if students learn the religious teachings on subjects such as miracles and their meanings, but then this is compared to the views of other philosopher who completely disagree with miracles happening, it can be beneficial to creating a good rounded opinion that the students can form for themselves.

Religion should have zero part to play in schools. It's one of the very few things the USA gets right in this area. On the other hand you can shove the daily fawn at the national flag which they also do right up where the sun doesn't shine

A lot of school examinations now are heavily weighted on evaluation marks. Because of that, students are encouraged to look at a lot of different views. If the religious ideas are learnt and balanced against the beliefs of say, Richard Dawkins and other points of view, I think it can be very useful.

I did R.S at A Level, picked up the prize for best in the school at it too, might I add. But my course was a lot more based on philosophy and ethics with a slant of Christianity. Was very interesting and hard. But I have to say, it's the best subject I have ever taken.

I still think Clyne will sign for us, and some speculation that Sakho wants out of PSG

Right opinions needed. A dude said this to me after admiting to shagging another girl. "Well yes we are going out, but we ain't engaged so technically until we are i can do that if i want to"

Thoughts?!

Tell him you banged his dad, then when he replies angrily, tell him that 'well yes we are going out, but we ain't engaged so technically until we are i can do that if i want to'

Has a player rating of 5 on SSN

I have absolutely no idea what this means

Yes, if somebody finds out, let me know.

He's obviously using it as some FM style statistic, hrnce on a scale of 1-10. Meaning he is supposed to be merely average because Sky said so. duuuuu

I am led to believe, correct me if anyone is better informed, that a player 5 rating is 'below average' quality. Voted by a selection of sky representatives and fans. To put it in to perspective Given is 6.7, Makoun 5.0 and Albrighton 6.2

Player ratings are featured on each match report that appears on the site during the season and you can also see a players average rating on their player profile.

From SKY Sports

Has a player rating of 5 on SSN

17k Euros a week. Thats a figure I like to see for a first team player.

Salifou

I don't think it's about the transfer fees, but more about the wages. Having said that, I'll join the fun and say 17m

I'm not a season ticket holder, so when will the everton (h) fixture be on general sale?

This is Villatalk, not the University Literature Department!

Oh, I'll move along then

Okay, okay, serious face on for a moment.

How short are you? It's a new kit manufacturer, the adult smalls might fit you?

5ft

You're right you are small... I'm15 too bu I'm 5ft 8"

Get youuuuu

I love how this thread has become some sort of dear deadry for small people.

I'm more annoyed at the fact the children's shirt doesn't have the acorns logo on as sponsors. Seems a waste to just have nothing there, and I think it looks better with a sponsor.

Given out, Akinfeev in

Didn't KMac make it clear he wanted to be considered as the new manager? If so, that's why he has probably decided to leave