Laughable Chimp

That Souuthampton equalizer should've been disallowed

24 minutes ago, romavillan said:

It's pretty well known that he was playing with injections and both the staff and the player knew that it was totally **** him up doing it. He *could* have refused to play until fully fit, we would have been in an even worse state before Smith and the Jan window came to save us and we'd still be in the Championship. 

Yeah but how many players in his position would've actually refused to play for us if they were in Chester's position. I think most would've just soldiered on tbh.

1 hour ago, Elton said:

Very encouraging that we opened up a defensive Newcastle team for fun who Man City struggled against. Easy 3 points tomorrow and storm up the league!

Yet we couldn't do the same when we faced Man City despite beating Newcastle

53 minutes ago, villalad21 said:

I still feel a bit bad for Elmo. Has done nothing wrong so far this season.

But i agree. Guilbert is the future.

Interesting stat about Elmo is that he has the highest expected assist per 90 minutes out of all our players who've played more than 90 minutes for us aside from Jack and Conor.

17 minutes ago, turvontour said:

How much would Mitrovic roughly cost?

At least 30 million imo. Seems like that's what it would cost to get a proven premier league striker nowadays that's reasonably young.

20 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Before we were relegated, we were on equal footing with Tottenham, and look at them now?

We have the owners and are building the structure to make something happen.

Why didn't Kane go to United for example?

ALSO, if you read the rest of those articles, or even listen to the interview he goes on to say "Not that I wanted to, but I think I would HAVE to" for the club.

Unless he massively climbs up trees, one of the BIG clubs come in for him, and we simultaneously show signs of going nowhere I don't think he forces a move.

If you can grow with the club you love, make great money and try to win things with them, why do you leave?

I think he would be more likely to join a club overseas personally.

I could obviously also be totally wrong.

I mean, what do you mean by equal footing? Because we had like 3 full years of battling relegation before finally going down while tottenham were competing for top 6 and trying to get into top 4 in that same period. 

And even if we were on equal footing with them, so what? There are also other clubs who have gotten top 6 and have gone down the table after, some even getting relegated. Why does us being like Tottenham at some point entitle us to a similar level of success? 

Kane not going to United? I don't know much about Kane's situation, but I think maybe the fact that Totenham were at least a top 6 club and were on the rise during the whole time a big factor? How is that at all comparable to us who have been in the championship the past 3 years and have only just gotten promoted? And with Poch gone now, and if Spurs don't win anything this season, I can totally see him leaving nexy year.

I don't know what he said in those articles, I just know what he said to the interviewer after winning the playoffs. And your statement doesn't even go against mine, he's saying he felt like he had to leave. He obviously would have to leave to further his career, which is the same thing I'm saying for why he may leave us eventually.

Here's the thing, if we show signs of upward progress, then I don't think Grealish leaves. BUT, if we don't, and remain rooted to the bottom half of the table and that shows no sign of changing, I think its entirely possible he might leave. Would you not think if after 3 years of relegation battles, a 27 year old Grealish might start thinking that it might be time to join another club before his prime disappears? Of course, he might not and its entirely possible he remains satisfied with Villa regardless butI do think from his comments ambition is a motivator for him. 

9 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said:

The sky is the limit for us with these new owners and then after today’s news (the manager signing his new contract). Grealish himself signed a new 5 year contract not too long ago, I see no reason why he would want to leave to go to anyone

And what if we don't for some reason get better and get stuck in a relegation battle year after year or hell, even get relegated? Its a distinct possibility, just as us reaching the top 10 or even top 6 is a possibility too in the future. We aren't entitled to anything in this league. I'm saying if its the former, I don't think Jack sticks around. 

A player signing a new contract doesn't mean they wouldn't want to leave in the future, it just means they didn't want to leave at the time they signed the contract. Like I said, Jack himself said that he had expected to leave at the end of the season despite signing a 5 year contract a year earlier, I don't think there's anything which indicated what his intentions were more than that, unless you think he was lying for some reason.

10 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said:

Money doesn’t seem to be an object to these owners, Grealish stayed for 3 years while we were in The Championship. I see no reason why he won’t stay with us for his whole career, it’s his boyhood club, all of his family are Villa fans, it’s in his blood

He said after we won the playoffs that he had been expecting to leave at the end of hte season at first. He's definitely open to leaving to further his career if required. Is purely being in the PL but getting bottom half finishes is enough to quell his ambition? Who knows, but if we were to go down again, I definitely don't see him sticking around. But if we were to show signs of gradually but significantly climbing up the table, I say he stays.

1 hour ago, Kiwivillan said:

Such what if maybe nonsense. This is the kind of junk signing we made that got us relegated. He doesn't fit the profile of our new board thank goodness

What kind of similar signing to current Benteke did we even make the season we got relegated? If I remember correctly we mostly signed lots of young French players that year who never played in the PL before, the kind of signings the current board seems to be looking at.

Edit: Not just the French, but most of our money went to just young players in general who've never really played in the PL before that year.

2 hours ago, zab6359 said:

I think that was his best game for us, much better when he drifts inside same as Jack on the left. It leaves room for Guilbert to work the wing. He's missed a few sitters now If he could just start finishing a bit more consistently he really could be top draw. . 

I honestly can't remember a single sitter he's actually missed for us.

22 minutes ago, gwi1890 said:

I think we are to used to a prolific poacher here at Villa, Tammy last season, Kodjia’s first season , Bent, Yorke to name a few, its clear this system is to try and get goals from everywhere full back ,midfielders wingers are all involved , last season we were over reliant on Tammy for goals they literally came from nowhere else , you only have to look at Bobby Firminio he scores goals but he is hardly prolific and yet he is regarded one of the best players in the leauge , is Wes in the same bracket no but we are hardly going to fork out £120m for a CF are we, its a very hard position to fill ,goal scorers are expensive one who can do both are priceless can anybody think off top of their heads for a good CF who is available and within budget?  

I don't think anyone would mind Wesley not being super prolific if he actually contributed a lot in other aspects of the game more(he doesn't, generally). And Firmino is allowed to not be super prolific because he has the likes of Salah and Mane to do that for him. Something tells me El Ghazi and Trezeguet won't have anywhere near the goal returns of Salah and Mane though.

3 minutes ago, Digavilla said:

Yes I do see more of his greediness creeping in this season, wanting to score a worldly or hold on ball too long & lose, where he should have done one touch pass to teammates in better position.

Think he knows he's been playing poorly relative to his standards and as a result he's wanted to take more of the chances himself. That shot near the end of the match where he should've passed to me represented his frustration he's had with himself the game.

Want to add that Wesley is actually 2 goals under his expected goals total. Makes sense considering his miss today and his penalty miss at Norwich, plus he's not the type to score difficult chances.

8 minutes ago, sne said:

I'd say that's pretty accurate in the context of the Premier League.

Does say he has no significant weaknesses either so glass half full?

Yeah, at least whoscored lists no strengths or weaknesses.  Not sure if its a case of them not having enough data on the player or they legitimately have no idea what is this guy's strengths or weaknesses. I would've assumed the former but they have enough data to characterize his style of play.

Suprised people are knocking his shooting. It wasn't good this game but you don't score some of the goals Jack has scored for us without having a cracking shot.

I haven't felt so confident in our keeper in so long. Why did Burnley even sell him to us so cheaply

I haven't felt so confident in our keeper in so long. Why did Burnley even sell him to us so cheaply

56 minutes ago, KentVillan said:

9th on home form, 20th on away form.

I said a few weeks ago, that winning most of our six pointers at home will be enough to keep us up, and then we just need to nick the odd win and draw on the road.

Our away form has been slightly affected by the quality of the teams we've faced (Spurs, Arsenal, City, Wolves are all top half). What would do our players the world of good is winning a game as underdogs, which we haven't really done yet. Man Utd are very beatable IMO, and it would be nice to be able to go into the Chelsea and Leicester games with a result at Old Trafford under our belts.

Funny how we were so dominant in that one away win we had.

We're gonna win the league

8 minutes ago, Villan4Life said:

Give it a rest. You really haven’t a clue...

Nah, I just dislike the whole, "look at how so much better he is playing than "insert another player who is playing like crap"" arguments.

2 minutes ago, Villan4Life said:

He’s much better than Joelinton who is also Brazilian and similar age to Wes. I agree he gets way too much stick on here for a young striker new to the country.

the stick he receives reminds me very much of how people was with Savo back in 1995. And Savo ended up having a good career.

Yeah but Joelinton is crap. Comparing a player to crap doesn't exactly make them look that much better.

On another day, some of these mistakes could've led to a goal.

Honestly, he's another one I think gets too much hype from us. He just makes too many mistakes and I feel people brush it under the rug way too much. This game was the worst so far but its not like he hasn't been having other games where he's been making costly mistakes.

Oh god, I'm gonna end up being one of the Wesley defenders now. I've become what I've always hated.

Was decent, on another day could've bagged a goal. The first time I've felt like I've seen actual false 9 play from him, or something like that. He definitely contributed by dragging defenders away towards him for other players to take advantage.

Not the best performance, but aside from missing the sitter, I'm not all that disappointed him this time. Work rate is actually there too which is a plus.

Edit: Also whoscored lists him as winning 6 aerial duels. Like, how? 

19 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said:

Top class today, one mistake in the second half but convinced it was because he didn't get a shout. Dictated the play at times, always in control.

I counted 2 actually. If the bloke wouldn't get disposessed so easily I'd be happier with him. 

But credit where credit is due, he had a good game overall.

Ok, Luiz has a bad habit of being disposessed.