MrBlack

Oh well done Ref. Didn't spot the handball though did you.  Prick.

5 minutes ago, LxYoungAVFC said:

It's not the ref. Lenglet did pull the defender's shirt for our disallowed goal. Challenge on Bailey was not a pen.

Our defence has been shit. Olsen should have saved 2. Luiz has been shit. 

It's all self inflicted.

It was a penalty on Bailey, but we scored straight after it so probably no effect.

The Handball by Luiz wasn't given for us in the PL when the oppositin player was pointing to his team mate. His hand didn't need to be there, but it was hardly unnatural protecting your face as you turn and jump with no clue what the defender is doing being you. So it was and the ball got hit at it from point blank. It's not a penalty by current rules.

The non-foul by Bailey given as a free kick before they then countered and scored their 4th.

We've been shit. The ref has been as bad. It can be both.

1 minute ago, Genie said:

People saying they were loving Martinez shithousing but it’s ended up costing us

To be fair, he wasn't shithousing when he got booked. He was asking for a ball.

Fuming. This game has pissed me right off. Absolute **** joke that this ref has been given a semi final game to referee. How can he be one of the two best in Europe.

**** rocket polisher of a ref.

More proof, if it were needed, they the referee wants them to win

3 minutes ago, birdman said:

Inst pen to them....blatant pen for Bailey...no go.

That'll be the bias. Most of Europe hates England, so doubt hes been paid off. Just wants us to be punished.

I **** hate football at times. 

Softest decision. Ref is biased. 

Great play by Lenglet there. Great touch by Bailey. Great finish by Diaby. Beautiful.

Get the **** in

1 minute ago, TheAuthority said:

Cash has been effective tonight. Arguably our best player.

He made up for his brain fart on the first offside goal of theirs. Now time for Digne to do the same.

1 minute ago, TheAuthority said:

Cash the only player playing with some passhun

In fairness to him, he always does. It's rarely effective though. Quite often a liability, occasionally very helpful. On a night like tonight I think it will help.

The standard of refs in Europe has been  pretty poor all tournament. We need to put it beyond a bad ref deciding things for us.

And we should have enough to do that, but haven't really turned up since our goal was ruled out. Feel like we've let that decision decide how the game is going to go

Just now, TomC said:

Doug and McGinn in the double pivot didn't work under Deano. They didn't work as part of a 3 under Gerrard. They still don't work in a double pivot under Unai.

Unfortunately, we don't have much of a choice with the injuries right now. Playing Tim would bring its own risks.

 

But going with something we know doesn't work is probably not a better option than something that might. Just a thought. 

That shirt pull by Lenglet is made by every defender on every corner. It's never given. How the ref saw it in real time and deemed it worthy of a foul is beyond me.

But the fact we've been shit since is not on the ref. Our defensive line is anything but straight, and Olsen just isn't Emi. We can't get away with things we can when he's in. 

Don't see us coming back, but stranger things have happened this season. And at least Chelsea are winning.

Ah ****. Emi saves both of those.

Just now, duke313 said:

He was onside

Read what I wrote.

Our goal ruled out for nothing.  Their goal ruled out for nothing.

Theres overturned, ours not.

**** sake.

3 minutes ago, villa4europe said:

Jackson is so bad 

He is, but how was that a foul by him and not romero?

1 minute ago, Billson said:

Something like this?

Can't say I like it...

Better than a drop shadow, but there are much easier ways to fix it. 

Wow. Glad I didn't contribute my thoughts to this thread at the time but I'm fairly sure they'd align with what everyone else was saying. Not one person voted for what actually happened.

Bailey had shown nothing, was costing a lot of money, but might have brought in a decent chunk of money. Philogene had a brilliant pre season and seemed to be undervalued by the club given what we eventually sold him for.

The right answer was definitely keep both.  Philogene would have had plenty of minutes with the injuries and drop off in form we've had from Diaby this season.

That assumes we didn't have to sell him for PSR/FFP purposes, which I suspect we did.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. But also, worth remembering the outcome of this situation, and that Diaby could well be a world beater next season.

And also, players that struggle at another club  may just need Emery as their manager to start performing.

3 hours ago, mrchnry said:

I just googled a claret villa lion. The above would look better if you could make it claret. 

Wow.  It's a bad sign that it gave you the original Lerner one and that is still associated with us. Surely we should be getting on to Google and getting rid of all other villa lions from their algorithm if we want everything on brand Mr. Heck

5 hours ago, Genie said:

I’d be very surprised if men with genuine cases of asthma could compete at the very top level of such a gruelling sport (cycling).

It’s cheating.

 

Aye, but bringing it back to United... my point is he's clearly a clever, bend all the rules, get the best out of whatever you can, and get results kind of bloke. Maybe he needs more time or it only works in cycling...

or perhaps, and hopefully more likely, United are just rotten throughout and nothing and noone can save them

10 hours ago, T-Dog said:

Genuine question - Is that sarcasm? Didn't he get called out for being quite "handy with the inhalers" for Sky? 1% better by doping, isn't 1% better, it's 100% cheating (not that he'd be the only one in cycling tbf)

Not really sarcasm. The story of the packages of inhalers that ended up with Wiggins and were treating genuine cases of asthma in him and Froome, although not obtained by official routes were prescribed medication. Used within the limits supposedly.

Whether you think they cheated with them or not (I do, but no more than the rest of the field and they were found not guilty of it anyway), they still found ways to elevate themselves anove their peers. They worked in a way that meant they dominated the sport for a period, and it wasn't just down to doping.

United don't seem to have any kind of structure that is working, drugs or not.