Brentfordnylons

6 minutes ago, Mazrim said:

Good point. Seriously. None of your players go on to do any good. You're like the dodgy used car garage of the Championship. Avoid.

I wonder if the massive step up in wages and size of clubs has an impact as they lose their desire as they think they have made it.

23 minutes ago, StewieGriffin said:

If we're buying a Stoke player Id rather it was Ryan Woods

Yet another example of a Brentford player who moved on and failed to impress.Was our player of the year then left for Stoke who paid 7 mill and has failed to hold down a starting place under 2 managers.I think after your similar experience with Hogan best you give our players a big swerve

2 minutes ago, av1 said:

I might be wrong but didn't Smith play very narrow wingers at Brentford? It might be the plan to play a narrow 3 behind the striker, subject to buying quick attack minded fullbacks. 

No very wide 

I wonder if Dean is just helping his old club start an auction for Benrahma with Arsenal West Ham and Palace all showing interest.

10 hours ago, Tomaszk said:

It's OK, got our eye on a kitman from the Championship to takeover when Dean leaves. Thomas Frank his name I think.

All good fun!

Genuine question, why do you think you've not managed to get up to the playoffs since first year with so many good players knocking around your club last few seasons? Too many weak points in amongst the good players?

Certainly a very well run club. I'd imagine you'll have a real run when you move to the new stadium. Maybe you'll have a summer of no sales and go for it big time the year after.

Selling players hasn’t helped along with the fact we don’t get loan players in anymore,haven’t done for past 2 seasons.We are a bit like a poor mans Arsenal very good on the eye but soft under belly mainly due to not having a tough guy in midfield.Thomas Frank has started to address this in signing a defensive midfielder last month and I’m sure we have at least another 5 players to come in this summer.I hope we can hold on to most of our players and give it a go next season but if clubs meet our valuations players will leave there is nothing you can do about it.

21 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said:

I heard that he was in charge of the bibs. 

Hilarious,I expect you will be first up to call for a change if you lose the first 2 games.Some fans don’t do any research.

9 minutes ago, macandally said:

It amazes me that some want to pursue these thirty something signings, remarkably short memories.

The club has already told fans its policy on how it will go forward, for those waiting for Sturrige, Cahill, Milner, Austin, I think this window is going to be a real disappointment.  Look at Dean Smiths Brentford, built around players with energy, pace and an ability to carry the ball.  Last season was a compromise using aging players brought in under Bruce’s tenure, the Premier League team will not be.

Time for this club to look forward, not back, time for the fans to do the same

 

 

It’s not Dean Smiths Brentford he came into a very stable set up with excellent support team and did a great job.He always talked highly about his DoFs and the owner even after he left us.Its down to your scouting network to replicate what he had with us.

52 minutes ago, MaVilla said:

I was only joking

in all honestly i would pull out the stops for benrahma and just table a 15m offer with some sort of sell of profit percentage, I really like him as a player.

maupay I'm not so sure, he looks good but I'm not sure if he would be able to lead the line as a sole striker in the prem, can't decide if he's a bit on the small side for that kind of role, maybe he could but I'm not as convinced with him as I am with benrahma.

I agree with all of that but think we need Maupay more than Benrahma next season if we want a top six finish.Maupay would be a big gamble in PL,yes I would say thatbut you are talking similar  money for Mitrovic at Fulham who is a far better and still only 24.I expect you are right about the deal that will get done.Remember Dean has seen him in training and is more aware than most of his talent.

3 minutes ago, MaVilla said:

We will take maupay, benrahma and konsa for tree fiddy.

Sorry but you sound like those fools down the road after they signed Jota Colin and Harlee and you know how that went

32 minutes ago, jacketspuds said:

How much do you think Konsa is worth. Looks a good prospect and, selfishly, I think he could be good alongside Mings. We can give you Chester or Hogan in p/x.

I don’t rate him even top championship let alone PL thought he was a liability at times defending.Looks very comfortable on the ball like all our defence but weak in the air imho

38 minutes ago, jacketspuds said:

Although you quote prices of £20m plus, could Brentford afford to turn down say £12m when you can clearly just buy 3 future PL players with that money?

Not my business or money but our owner has got a history of not getting mugged off like we used to by big clubs.A recent example was with Bournmouth who  bid 6 million for Chris Mepham last year then 10 mill at the start of last season both were turned down he went eventually for 13 mill ++.The fact that we sold well over 30 million pounds worth of players last season tells me we can afford to wait for the right price whatever that means especially when the player is still under a long contract.Benrahma will leave I believe as he is quality and other clubs will come in for him as well as Villa and that will push the price up to around 18 to 20 mill thats with add ons.

1 hour ago, VillaFaninLondon said:

Very pleased with the Benrahma bid. He is someone from the Championship I really do rate and him and El Ghazi on either wing (once El Ghazi deal becomes permanent) would be very exciting I think. Maupay scored lots of goals for Brentford but I think Benrahma was their best player and it was his first season in England. 

You are correct Benrahma is our best player.

Benrahma is rated higher than Maupay as far as transfer value so I would expect we would be looking for 20 million plus.Really hope we can keep him and Maupay for at least one more season as from what I hear we are lining up some more physical signings this summer to address our soft under belly especially away from home.Then hopefully you can all get a chance to see Maupay and Benrahma playing at Villa Park.

in a Brentford shirt

2 hours ago, Tomaszk said:

I meant under Smith sir.

Did he play this shape for most of his time at Brentford? You lot ever experiment with 3 CBs under him?

Ok, no he always played back 4.

1 hour ago, Tomaszk said:

Hope so, it will benefit us. 

Brentford played 433 every time we played them. We played 433 every match except one last season, I think we might even have switched back to it towards the end of that Swansea game. 433 has been 100% his plan A in the past. 

Player ability, workrate and attitude is definitely more important than any discussions like this btw. I think Dean will get that side right and it'll help if he's got some formation flexibility to go alongside it.

Not when we beat you 1 0 back in February,Thomas Frank changed the formation at the turn of the year to a back 3 and continued to play that till the end of season.

On 31/05/2019 at 01:52, ciggiesnbeer said:

Cant see him going back to Brentford sadly. They only buy players they can make a profit on. Hard to see that with Hogan unless he takes a massive pay cut and we let him leave for nowt.

Won’t be coming back to us as you said we mainly buy players to further their careers and then make us money.I thought Dean would have got more out of him but it’s hard to believe he’s played nearly twice as many games for you than he did for us.What with Woods at Stoke also out of favour it makes you wonder why some of these players who leave us their form goes down when their wages increase.

17 minutes ago, Brumstopdogs said:

Wouldn't his former club have preferred payment by cash?

Sorry if already posted but Jota was signed by Warburton for Bees 

3 hours ago, MaVilla said:

how highly did you rate him at Brentford?, say compared to your current "best" players?

Prem capable you think or not?

He had 2 spells with us after returning to Spain for domestic problems where he hardly played.Got a hero’s welcome when he returned and gave me some wonderful memories with goals against Fulham and QPR.Have to remember he barely played more than 60:games for us over 3 seasons and as with these types of players there is no middle ground when their good they are superb but when their bad they are a liability.Left a bad taste with how he left but he was piss poor at the start of the season when he left.To answer your question Said Benrahma who we signed last season is a far better all round player than Jota and we will do well to keep hold of.Whether he will do well in the PL is debatable but obviously Dean feels he is capable he was dreadful everytime he played against us for City but no surprise as they never had decent players around him.He is far from a 1 trick pony dispite his predictable Left foot has to be one of the most skillfull and exciting players we have seen over the last 20 years.Could form an exciting partnership with  Grealish 

Surprised at Dean going for Jota great player for us on his day badly damaged at his time at hoof ball Birmingham City where he played more games than he did for us.Scored an impressive 23 goals for us and a poor 8 for them if Dean can get a tune out of him it’s great business. very predictable and 90% all left foot but good option from the bench.

17 minutes ago, MaVilla said:

How are you guys getting along with your new manager?, he he doing the business?, how do you think you will do next season?

Do the Brentford fans have any opinions on what Deano has done at Villa?

Since Deano joined Villa and became the messiah, Brentford and their project have kind of become my fave championship team / second team (now we are promoted )

Thomas Frank after a poor run that started before Dean left has done an excellent job and got us to another top half finish.In a season where we  sold 7 players and got over 35£million in fees and lost our manager I see that as a good achievement.Most of our fans wish Dean well and after the events of our home game with Derby where one of our fans was wrongly accused of racial abuse towards one of their players and has now been cleared we were all cheering Villa on.There was also another incentive as Villa now have to pay usanother 1.5 mill on the Hogan fee due to your promotion.

If we can hang on to most of our our players along with the expected new signings we could we be in the mix at the end of the season.Dean worked well with Thomas over 2 seasons and believe they both learnt a lo off each other.

Ive been in Deans company and his brother who came to a couple of bees away games and he is a down to earth decent bloke who’s story about his poor dad had me in tears even though I knew of his illness

anyway I do go on a bit good luck next season Brighton Sheffield United and Norwich I think will go down.

Good to read the positive posts and love for Dean on here and the ones who have put there hands up for being critical in the past and us fans all know this is the best it gets as far as fans being united.There is a great picture of Dean with Jack lifting the cup Monday and really hope some remember that high when things  may go a bit off the tracks next season and give Dean and Richard time to rectify it.My hope is we can get up next year and welcome Dean and Villa to our new stadium the following season.