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Have the Premier League confirmed the deal? The atairos deal was a similar stake to Ratcliffe at Utd. Just a bit strange.

16 minutes ago, useless said:

I don't think Atairos ever had an article on their website regarding their investment in V Sports, it was just a link to the article on our website, which is still there. In fact they don't have any news articles on their website at all, all their news items are links to other websites.

They didn't have an article but they had it in the news and press release section which has now disappeared.

The communication is terrible at the moment. What is happening with Atairos ? Have the club/Premier League confirmed the investment? The Atairos website has removed the article that they are involved with V Sports/Aston Villa.

2 minutes ago, pas5898 said:

Might just be me, but part of me hopes they get into the PL and become an actual rival. 

Pessimistically (Sky 6, FFP, Revenue model), the best we can hope for is the odd CL qualification and the odd cup run.

Having a credible rival and 2 games per season with bragging rights would be awesome. Might make Chris Heck etc up their game as well with regards to stadium expansions / innovation.

I see that too. I would rather they were in Wolves' position and our rivalry competing with the Manchester/London clubs. 

18 minutes ago, MikeMcKenna said:

I think we should be very concerned about Ollie Watkins long term future at Villa following his comments about the team lacking a big team mentality. He one of the best strikers in the PL and wants to win stuff. If that doesn’t look possible at Villa, imho he will be off. Yesterday’s result may come to haunt us!

I am not too concerned. I think Ollie was speaking in frustration at dropping the three points yesterday, I think OW is selecting and magnifying negatives too. I am sure when he reflects back on the full game - he will see a lot of positives. I get Ollie's sentiment (some of what he said) but I think it would have been better said internally - don't feed the media machine or shit on your colleagues. 

I think we have shown a "big team" mentality considering the injury list we have, which is the worst in the league. Since the Utd defeat - we fought back to win at Luton,  we fought back to gain a point yesterday. Don't get me wrong, we have weaknesses but the team are in a new territory and there has been progression in the mentality since the Utd defeat in Dec.

As Emery said...."be balanced"

19 hours ago, VillaParkAvenue said:

I expect us to sell just about anyone in the summer. Probably two or three great players.

As long as Unai stays though, I’m fine. By far the most important person at the club.

Why do you think three great players? I can us being open to selling Kessler-Hayden and Tim, plus maybe Mings to Ipswich. Duran for a huge fee. I think we can intelligently player trade without overly harming our core team.

 New Aston/Witton 55k-60k community stadium/hub next to VP rather than re-developing NS & DE stands - which will also involve buying houses/land (but without reducing the capacity of VP in the short term). 

14 minutes ago, Captain_Townsend said:

The timeline is clear on when things changed. Purslow even did a 25 minute interview on Sky with Beth Rigby in April 2023, at Villa Park, explaining about the future and the new stand that would be going up! The new here's fingerprints are all over the ditching of the round badge and the new stand.

Now he may well come up with something better on the redevelopment front - jury out until we hear something communicated- but there is a reason people like me have not taken to this bloke.

The NS seemed to be cancelled when Atairos became partners.

54 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

Seriously, it's weird to think we went through the level of detail we did in order to hoodwink UEFA, do you really believe that to be true, or is it just a way to try to focus the disappointment onto the previous CEO? It seems a little far fetched no?

 

 

I never said hoodwinked. The original plan was proven to be idealistic and has been down-scaled. That is okay, sometimes there are sound reasons for plans to be reduced.

However, I am disappointed (and a little impatient) by the lack of clear communication on the re-development. I have been unfair on Purslow upon reflection of information provided by posters on this thread. Heck & Hatton are picking up the project and adding their views - the re-development has been a bit messy lets be honest. There has been a gap in information and communication from Purslow to Heck. I suppose more communication will come out about the actual future of VP in the coming weeks & months.

City's build up from the back may suit Duran's energetic pressing game. This is a big moment for the lad - I believe he could thrive under the pressure tbh.

7 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

The idea that we dreamed the whole thing up to get the station redeveloped or help the FA's Euro bid though is laughable nonsense

 

More like Villa Park/Birmingham/West Midlands bid to be a hosting stadium at the Euros rather than the FA.  The FA don't care about Villa.

6 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

It was something promised and planned by Purslow and not delivered by Heck. To blame Purslow for Heck's decision is silly.

The badge is subjective, I would have been happy with the round badge for what it was worth. Lets get behind it, move forward. Purslow was still in charge at the point of the Brighton game? I can't remember. I just wanted us to go in one direction fully, not half hearted. Perhaps I am blaming Purslow for decisions out of his control.

14 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

There's absolutely nothing to suggest this was the case though. The club went through every stage in the planning of the new stand, spending time and money on architects, surveys, work with the local community, adjusting those plans, seeking and gaining planning permission, engaging surveyors and contractors and announcing those plans to the wider world - the idea that this project wasn't real is ridiculous. 

A (red) brick hasn't been laid so it is fair to say the North Stand was/is all talk for what it is worth. It is helpful talk in regards to the Euros and Witton Station I imagine. The North Stand has been promised three times but cancelled at each occasion. It begs the question why?!

Purslow is/was an excellent communicator and is knowledgable about English football. Purslow stood up for Villa, I get that and appreciate it. He championed our progression under NSWE and did a lot of good work in other areas too. But how it ended for Purslow wasn't great.

Perhaps I am being harsh about the botched badge launch but it was something promised by CP and not delivered. Heck wasn't the only person that didn't like the badge too, lets be honest about that too. Heck/Hatton have made a meal out of handling the new badge with the fan consultation, but lets see where we end up with the "new badge".  

I can also interpret CP intentions positively, but if the re-development was just bluster - I feel a bit let down by Purslow, I rather have the truth rather than a plan that will never materialise. Lerner and Ellis having similar plans but not being able to achieve them means it is a lot harder to build NS in reality. I think any serious re-development starts with DE stand.

Perhaps explore the space in between Witton lane and the railway lines as OBE says. But why rebuild two new stands? When you can build a new, dedicated stadium from scratch in that space between witton lane and the railway line (20 plus arces) without the need to reduce capacity.

This re-development all feels like a pretext to a new stadium in the longer term.

4 hours ago, Stevo985 said:

That's an incredibly expensive way to support a bid to be a Euros stadium considering we almost certainly would have been one anyway

One of the prior ceo's vanity projects, expensive mistakes seemed to be the pattern in the end  - Gerrard appointment, Coutinho signing, botched launch of the new round badge (which reportedly cost millions) to name a few. I don't think VP hosting the euros is/was a given without re-development. You would imagine a re-developed VP would have given significant weight to our Euro bid, plus the witton station upgrades.The club currently working with Uefa/FA in regards to Euro 2028 was the last word.

3 minutes ago, villan95 said:

 

 

Pop at Grealish.

I have just been looking at the future vision of Villa Park on the OS. The connection of the North Stand to the Doug Ellis stand looks weird from inside the stadium.   There is not a clear picture showing the new NS linking with DE too. The DE stand is too tucked in for proper NS re-development. Surely the DE stand has to be rebuilt first (or together with NS) to properly maximise every seat/space?  I think this makes a new stadium more likely post 2028-30.

The cynic in me thinks this North Stand re-development plan was created to support the VP Euro bid and Witton Station upgrades, but with no intention of the new NS becoming reality because it is not that feasible to achieve.

Also seems like we could be copying Rangers with the stadium bowl plan - they are increasing capacity by extending the upper tiers of their stands and also adding more accessibility spaces.

16 minutes ago, thabucks said:

If you’re talking  never gunna happen locations for a fantasy stadium location then surely this area right next door to the new HS2 station which is a massive waste of prime inner city space is the logical hypothetical location. It’s ripe for redevelopment as a lot of the current buildings could be repurposed etc. It’s near two major train stations and could be a new district hub for entertainment, bars & restaurants etc.

But as I said it’s a fantasy as we aren’t moving 

I don't see us moving away from Aston.

8 hours ago, paul514 said:

no trains

The site is closer to the city centre and the bigger stations (HS2 coming too). But VP/Brookvale/Tame industrial area is a better location to trains stations near our ground. I think the council may prefer the ground being closer to Birmingham City Centre though.

I think we need to be taking the City game more seriously. 3rd is in sight, enjoy and look forward.

Great to see him gaining some confidence in the past few weeks.

22 hours ago, paul514 said:

I’d rather go into the city centre inside the ring road, I hate where we are and it solves all the transport issues 

If it is a new stadium in Aston, it would probably be this site as it has been/was earmarked for regeneration - about a mile closer to city centre than VP.

Just now, GENTLEMAN said:

yessss

 

Brentford?

It is what we do now. We won today. We keep moving forward.

16 minutes ago, maqroll said:

Get him on a 10 year "Boehly" immediately!

Remember Coutinho guys!

On 28/03/2024 at 11:58, Villa_Vids said:

I am not convinced by Ramsey this season. I can see him being injured again against Wolves and holding his foot. Hope to be proved wrong.

Yup. All for a youth development tournament....great.