JamesBCFC

4 minutes ago, Zatman said:

Is he playing central as he rarely played that position for us

Yeah, playing as part of a front 2 centrally.

A real menace for defences, him and Taylor have been a real handful (Taylor rarely causes problems against Championship sides before this season, but has struggled with injuries)

Weimann and Diedhiou is, on paper, a very good partnership, but I feel they aren't on the same wavelength yet.

Just now, sne said:

I want our owners to see that Bruce needs to be replaced regardless if we win lose or draw the next 3 games.

Fwiw I don't think 3 losses at this point of the season would rule us out of promotion. Will still be 34 games and 102 points to play for.

Plenty of time still.

You are right it wouldn't, but it would leave promotion very unlikely and would need a dramatic turnaround.

Would be 13 points from the first 12 and (saying 90 for promotion) would then need 78 points from 34, exactly 2 points per game until the end

2 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

It’s been asked and yes people do want us to lose if it means a change.

For me I still want us to win but In an unconvincing manner so he is still sacked. 

Didn't realise it's been asked, threads moved on about 300 pages since I last checked it.

Kick off time moved to 8pm

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/aston-villa-kick-off-at-8pm/

Genuine question(s).

1. Are any if you at the point where you'd want Villa to lose games to see Bruce go?

In 2016-17 there was a member of our forum who started a "I hope we lose" thread ahead of our FA Cup game against Fleetwood. On the basis that defeat would have brought Lee Johnson closer to the sack (this was in our long bad run that season).

Despite quite a few people at that time being "LJ out" he was, almost entirely, slated for his comment.

2. Would you take 3 defeats in your next 3 games- essentially ruling out promotion for this season- if it meant Bruce left.

26 minutes ago, PieFacE said:

I honestly think FFP is a bit shit. I think if an owner is willing to chuck money at a club they should be allowed to, providing they inject enough personal capital into the club to ensure that it can't collapse on itself. 

But, I fully appreciate that my view might be different if we didn't have mega rich owners. 

Isn't that the core issue though?

Many owners won't do that.

Its rare to actually make money as a football club owner, and being an owner is a quick route to spending a fortune.

Many of the richer owners outside the Premier League are someone who wants to see the team promoted and sell for more than they paid. Injecting all the money necessary to ensure the clubs stability means they have to recoup more money at the end.

21 clubs fail at going up each season, after a while said rich owner will want a way out. If they have injected a tonne of money they are going to be at a huge loss regardless.

I believe this is partly why our owner has changed tack. In 2010 we signed Then England goalkeeper David James, which for a 'small club' in the Championship was quite a statement. In reality we were paying a fortune for someone who just wasn't interested. We slowly finished lower and lower every season before the inevitable relegation, at which point our wage bill for players alone was something like 110% of the clubs announced turnover.

5 years on from that relegation and we are back in the Championship, in a position 10x better than before. Stadium redeveloped and a brand new £100m complex about to be built for a Basketball arena, hotels and housing. (We have a somewhat unique structure- for U.K. clubs- where Lansdown owns multiple sports clubs under the umbrella of Bristol Sport, which also includes the Women's team, Bristol Bears (formerly Bristol Rugby), and Bristol Flyers (Basketball), but because it is all under Bristol Sport, Bristol City are able to use their income as additional for ourselves).

We are fortunate however to have one of the few owners who would underwrite the extortionate losses we were making, and now he has invested a not insignificant amount in getting the Club into a position where it can support itself, though that doesn't mean he won't put some money in for transfers.

As a comparison, Bristol Rovers had a new owner after their relegation to the Conference in 2014, a "billionaire" making them the "6th richest club in the country"*.

The total amount he has put into the club is probably less than what we paid for our record signing (£5.3m). 

A few of our fans had looked at the accounts of Rovers, and I think they have predicted the end of next season as the point they enter administration, all the owner has done is take out loans against various assets and sign free transfers.

*actual claims made by their fans and our local journos.

Now it could be said that Steve Lansdown and the Rovers owner are at the opposite end of a spectrum*. But IMO most of the 'rich foreign owners' we see coming in now are nearer the latter than the former.

*We're probably helped with the fact Lansdown is from Bristol, rather than a foreign owner who'd never heard of us before he wanted a football club as a toy.

I personally like the way we are going about things now, and while it isn't perfect, I think FFP is a reasonable idea despite having a mega rich owner. 

I wouldn't wish for any club to go bust, but IMO that is what needs to happen before fans (in a broad sense) and football club owners wake up.

I do want the TV money bubble to burst though, and sadly I suspect there would be a few clubs who would be casualties if/when that happens.

On 25/09/2018 at 16:28, ROTTERDAM1982 said:

If we go up, then as far as I understand, we will have no issues with FFP, if we don't then we sell Jack, hence him signing a new 5 year deal.He did as he said, and we owe him, and that should rectify the FFP situation, the go out and buy Exe from QPR 

With it now so that the current seasons accounts have to be forecasted, just being top 2 won't be enough this season if you fall foul of FFP, so a promotion place isn't an easy escape anymore.

Hopefully the current Birmingham case will see them get hit hard, and then we have a strong precedent set for any other clubs who decide to breach FFP.

However, the EFL have historically had a backbone about as rigid as jelly, so my breath is not being held.

On 21/09/2018 at 00:09, VillaChris said:

I take it you're liking Wiemann so far?

Missed that post.

Yes, Weimann has been very good for us so far, his movement and the runs he makes are exactly what we needed in someone who was essentially replacing Reid.

Confident he will hit 15+ goals if he doesn't pick up a serious injury.

Can't stand all this negativity.

Bristol City 0-3 Villa.

With Adomah, Bolasie, Tammy and Kodjia playing for you lot it's going to be like seeing a Bristol City tribute act.

On 22/09/2018 at 08:08, Demitri_C said:

Another bad result for Bristol.city. bet they turn up against us though. 

"Another" is a bit much.

WBA was off the back of 4 wins, pretty much made it a free hit and the better side lost, though WBA probably have one of the best attacking line ups in the League.

Wigan away was a poor result, absolutely.

1 hour ago, VILLAMARV said:

I like a nice disagreement as much as the next guy

No you don't 

Tuesday was a bloody odd game.

First 20 minutes or so we carved WBA open at will and they probably couldn't have complained if we had gone 2/3-0 up.

Then they get a penalty after our LB gets caught on the back and they score 3 goals in 15/20 minutes.

After that it goes back to before, can't overly complain about the result as the individual errors gifted them glorious chances that you'd expect to be scored, but WBA couldn't have really complained if they had lost 4-2.

12 hours ago, rjw63 said:

Can we have Baker back?

Baker is a weird one.

Good on his day, but not been great for us in his most recent games and didnt even make the bench yesterday.

Overall, no you cant because Kalas is only a loan

On 25/06/2018 at 13:13, sne said:

Bristol City away kit, yikes!

It's vibrant I think would be the word.

Certainly not for everyone but most City fans like it, as it's generally got good memories.

When we had it in the mid 90s we wore it for what was (for us) a big cup win at Anfield wearing it.

Then it was brought back as a third kit for 2014-15. We wore it first game of the season a season we were away at Sheffield United as put away kit was white and black like this season. We won and because Cotterill is superstitious about these things it then became our main away kit that season as we went on to get the lower league double.

I saw somewhere the other day that our record in P+L since 2014-15 is P22, W13, D7, L2, albeit about half of those games in League 1.

On 09/08/2018 at 14:46, blandy said:

It's one of the little extra bonus joys of football to develop a dislike - loathing (or anywhere on the scale in between ) of a club (or a manager or a player) for some real or perceived random reason and then to revel in it when things go wonky for that club. tuck in we all do it, I think.

Clubs and people on my list (excluding the obvious ones) Rafa the FSW, West Ham, Harry Redknapp, Alan Pardew....(there's loads more)

I don’t disagree with any of that.

I have a dislike of Pulis, Holloway and Warnock (particularly Holloway) so any club currently managed by any of them I hope to see fail.

I also have a dislike of Kings Lynne and Cheshunt! (There are others, but those two are ones that might seem a bit odd)

Generally there are sides I’d prefer to beat another one

1 hour ago, privateer said:

Are you suggesting we have stalled on paying and there is actually an outstanding debt on the transfer. Or, as is more likely the case, the payment schedule is in installments, including any addons, and that has completed yet? Weird reason to hate a club. On that basis every fan should hate any club they've ever sold a player to because transfers are commonly staged-payment affairs.

Will you hate us a bit less when the puchase contact is fulfilled? Is your hate in stages as well and amortises as we pay?

I dont hate Villa, so there is no hating going on on my part.

I'm well aware that transfer fees arent done in a lump sum up front, but theres been suggestions that Villa had missed payments to us.

Perhaps you have forgotten already, but financially you were up a certain creek earlier this summer and money was owed to several places.

42 minutes ago, pete101 said:

Spot on , never read so much rubbish in my life, trying to blame villa fans for deal the Bristol board struck with us

You didnt read what I posted very well then.

I havent blamed Villa fans for anything, and went on to specifically point out that the criticisms of some Villa fans that I was making also apply to fans of other clubs, including my own.

1 hour ago, Spoony said:

Incidentally the Bristol City fans are loving this. Why do they hate us so much???

Can only speak for myself, but many of your fans come across as arrogant, from what I have encountered at Ashton Gate, and on social media (not that Villa are alone in that and I'm sure a number of ours do too).

The fact Villa still owe us money from the Kodjia transfer still, and the fact that after relegation you just went to buy promotion, which is why you have the FFP troubles now.

Other than the Kodjia money none of it is specific to Villa, and I have equally enjoyed laughing as Derby bottled promotion year on year when they tried to buy it, and I will do the same if Forest fail this season.

1 hour ago, Eastie said:

Do you believe in Santa Claus too  

Dont you?!

4 hours ago, punkiller1981 said:

I’m assuming the answer to this is yes but does the cost of the scouting network come in to FFP? 

If not we should plough as much money as we can both home and abroad into our scouting network. We should know the pros and cons of every person kicking a football about in the world. The only signing in about the last ten years and probably longer were I can say I thought the was a good bit of scouting spotting something others hadn’t is with Benteke. Other than him I can’t think of anybody. 

I look at Spurs (who I hate more than any other club) and thre scouting where they picked up Kyle Walker from Sheffield United as a youngster and delli alli ( I know we were linked too) and Eric dier from Portugal. We never seem to be able to do things like that.

I'm shit, but I'll sign for £1000 a week plus relocation and travel expenses.

Might just happen to be ill when you play Bristol City too.

1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

On top of this will Fulham even fill their allocation? Villa fans could make the atmosphere very one sided which could help. 

Id be surprised if they didnt.

We took somewhere between 40k and 45k for the JPT final in 2015, Fulham should manage their allocation for the Championship playoff final.

3 hours ago, Demitri_C said:

I swear sessagnon plays lm?

defesnively I’ll be honest think boro are stronger but going forward Fulham are much stronger 

He plays LB and LM, think he started further back, but not 100% sure