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    VillaTalk Deadpool 2022

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    In at the death so to speak!

    Liz

    Rob Burrows

    Henry Kissinger

    Dick Van Dyke

    Jimmy Carter

    It was a toss up between Carter, Angela Lansbury and Bill Turnbull, who is mighty ill with cancer. I hope I've gone the right way!

     

    Cheers Nick

    This was the last entry before the deadline - No changes after this - Bicks

    The VT Musicians Thread

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    11 minutes ago, leemond2008 said:

    £339

    Squier Classic Vibe 50s Telecaster Butterscotch Blonde Maple Fingerboard

    Squier Classic Vibe 50s Telecaster Butterscotch Blonde Maple Fingerboard | guitarguitar 

     

    £239

    Positive Grid Spark | guitarguitar

     

    80 quid over budget but I would definitely recommend the Spark amp, nice and small but kicks out a load of power, hundreds of different sounds and styles to mess about with to keep you interested and a fwe gimmicks to give you a bit of a hand if you are just learning, I think a few on here have them as well, I know that the Mooniemeister has one because he was the one that got me onto it.

    I do love a blonde.

    Unpopular Opinions

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    15 hours ago, blandy said:

    Yeah, that's it - Thomas Newman  - Dead Already  - Jakatta American Dream - samples it.

    Sometimes you get the Jakatta faster version, sometimes the TN version  

    Blimey! I've spent the last 13 years wondering what the intro music was when I saw genesis at Twickenham. Now I know, thanks

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    WM Football phone in

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    It really is. One thing I have noticed though, fans of other teams seem to be drongos who you could imagine will have trouble tying their shoelaces!

    Boggies to beat Brighton 4-0.  Can I have some of what you are smoking!

    8 minutes ago, rjw63 said:

    It's very boring tonight.

     

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    The now-enacted will of (some of) the people

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    9 hours ago, LondonLax said:

    I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I didn't really understand any of their work, though on their last album of the 1970s, the concept-laden And Then There Were Three (a reference to band member Peter Gabriel, who left the group to start a lame solo career), I did enjoy the lovely "Follow you, Follow Me.' Otherwise all the albums before Duke seemed too artsy, too intellectual. It was Duke(Atlantic; 1980), where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent, and the music got more modern, the drum machine became more prevalent and the lyrics started getting less mystical and more specific (maybe because of Peter Gabriel's departure), and complex, ambiguous studies of loss became, instead, smashing first-rate pop songs that I gratefully embraced. The songs themselves seemed arranged more around Collins' drumming than Mike Rutherford's bass lines or Tony Banks' keyboard riffs. A classic example of this is "Misunderstanding," which not only was the group's first big hit of the eighties, but also seemed to st the tone for the rest of their albums as the decade progressed. The other standout on Duke is "Turn It On Again," which is about the negative effects of television. On the other hand, "Heathaze" is a song I just don't understand, while "Please Don't Ask" is a touching love song written to a separated wife who regains custody of the couple's child. Has the negative aspect of divorce ever been rendered in more intimate terms by a rock 'n' roll group? I don't think so. "Duke Travels" and "Dukes end" might mean something but since the lyrics aren't printed it's hard to tell what Collins is singing about, though there iscomplex, gorgeous piano work by Tony Banks on the latter track. The other bummer about Duke is "Alone Tonight," which is way too reminiscent of "Tonight Tonight Tonight," from the group's later masterpiece Invisible Touch and the only example, really, of where Collins has plagiarized himself.

    Abacab (Atlantic; 1981) was released almost immediately after Duke and it benefits from a new producer, Hugh Padgham, who gives the band a more eights sound and though the songs seem fairly generic, there ares till great bits throughout the extended jam in the middle of the title track and the horns by some group called Earth, Wind, and Fire on "No Reply at All" are just two examples. Again, the songs reflect dark emotions and are about people who feel lost or are in conflict, but the production and sound are gleaming and upbeat (even if the title's aren't: "No Reply at All," "Keep It Dark," "Who Dunnit?" "Like It or Not"), Mike Rutherford's bass is obscured somewhat in the mix but otherwise the band sounds tight and is oce again propelled by Collins' truly amazing drumming. Even at its most despairing (like the song "Dodo," about extinction), Abacab musically is poppy and lighthearted.

    My favorite track is "Man on the Corner," which is the only song credited solely to Collins, a moving ballad with a pretty synthesized melody plus a riveting drum machine in the background. Though it could easily com off any of Phil's solo albums, because the themes of loneliness, paranoia and alienation are overly familiar to Genesis it evokes the band's hopeful humanism. "Man on the Corner" profoundly equates a relationship with a solitary figure (a bum, perhaps a poor homeless person?), "that lonely man on the corner" who just stands around. "Who Dunnit?" profoundly expresses the themes of confusion against a funky groove, and what makes this song so exciting is that it ends with its narrator never finding anything out at all.

    Hugh Padgham produced next an even less conceptual effort, simply called Genesis (Atlantic; 1983), and though it's a fine album a lot of it now seems to derivative for my tastes. "That's All" sounds like "Misunderstanding," "Taking It All Away" reminds me of "Throwing It All Away." It also seems less jazzy than its predecessors and more of an eighties pop album, more rock 'n' roll. Padgham does a brilliant job of producing, but the material is weaker than usual and you can sense the strain. It opens with the autobiographical "Mama," that's both strange and touching, though I couldn't tell if the singer was talking about his actual mother or to a girl he likes to call "Mama." "That's All' is lover's lament about being ignored and beaten down by a unreceptive partner; despite the despairing tone it's got a brilliant sing-along melody that makes the song less depressing than it probably needed to be. "That's All" is the best tune on the album, but Phil's voice is strongest on "House by the Sea," whose lyrics are, however, too stream-of-consciousness to make much sense. It might be about growing up and accepting adulthood but it's unclear; at any rate, its second instrumental part puts the song more in focus for me and Mike Banks gets to show off his virtuoustic guitar skills while Tom Rutherford washes the tracks over with dreamy synthesizers, and when Phil repeats the song's third verse at the end it can give you chills.

    "Illegal Alien" is the most explicitly political song the group has yet recorded and their funniest. The subject is supposed to be sad--a wetback trying to get across the border into the United States--but the details are highly comical: the bottle of tequila the Mexican holds, the new pair of shoes he's waring (probably stolen); and it all seems totally accurate. Phil sings it funniest, and the rhyme of "fun" with "illegal alien" is inspired. "Just a Job to Do" is the album's funkiest song, with a killer bass line by Banks, and though it seems to be about a detective chasing a criminal, I think it could also be about a jealous lover tracking someone down. "Silver Rainbow" is the album's most lyrical song. The words are intense, complex and gorgeous. The album ends on a positive, upbeat note with "It's Gonna Get Better." Even if the lyrics seem a tiny bit generic to some, Phil's voice is so confidence (heavily influenced by Peter Gabriel, who never made an album this polished and heartfelt himself) that he makes us believe in glorious possibilities.

    Invisible Touch (Atlantic; 1986) is the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility, at the same time it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. It has a resonance that keeps coming back to the listener, and the music is so beautiful that it's almost impossible to shake off because every song makes some connection about the unknown or the spaces between people ("Invisible Touch") questioning authoritative control whether by domineering lovers or by government ("Land of Confusion") or by meaningless repetition ("Tonight Tonight Tonight"). All in all it ranks with the finest rock 'n' roll achievements of the decade and the mastermind behind this album, along of course with the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford, is Hugh Padgham, who has never found as clear and crisp modern a sound as this. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument.

    In terms of lyrical craftsmanship and sheer songwriting skills, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion," in which a singer addresses the problems of abusive political authority. This is laid down with a groove funkier and blacker than anything prince or Micheal Jackson--or any other black artist of recent years, for that matter--has come up with. Yet as danceable as the album is, it also has a stripped-down urgency that not even the overrated Bruce Springsteen can equal. As an observer of love's failings Collins beats out the Boss again and again, reaching new heights of emotional honesty on "In Too Deep"; yet it also showcases Collins' clowny, prankish, predictable side. It's the most moving pop song of the 1980s about monogamy and commitment. "Anything She Does" (which echoes the J. Geils Ban's "Centerfold" but is more sprinted and energetic) starts off side two and after that the album reaches its peak with "Domino," a two part song. Part one, "In the Heat of the Night," is full of sharp, finely drawn images of despair and it's paired with "The Last Domino," which fights it with an expression of hope. This song is extremely uplifting. The lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock.

    Phil Collins' solo efforts seem to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying in a narrower way, especially No Jacket Required and songs like "In the Air Tonight" and "Against All Odds" (though that song was overshadowed by the masterful movie from which it came) and "Take Me Home" and Sussudio" (great, great song; a personal favorite) and his remake of "You Can't Hurry Love," which I'm not alone in thinking is better than the Supreme's original. But I also think that Phil Collins works better with the confines of the group than as a solo artist--and I stress the word artist. In facgt, It applies to all three of the guys, because Genesis is still the best, most exciting band to come out of England in the 1980s.

    London, London, London..............

    And then there were three was released after Steve Hackett left, and is a reference to there only being three in the band, that's all!

     

    Go back and listen to Wind and Wuthering, an absolute masterpiece

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