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6 hours ago, TRO said:

I am not so sure....The crucial stats were not for good reading, even before Emi's exit.....and my eye test on the night, suggested, they was gradually working their was back in to the game, without much resistance, even at us 2-0 up.... We have seen this before.

Chelsea was winning the possession battle all through the game.....and after their first goal, the inevitable was arriving.....Gallagher and Caceido had the freedom to dictate.

Look, they are entitled to an off night.....The season is not the issue, we all know it's been great....and we are hugely grateful....but I would be amazed, if that performance, (and the detail of it) does not resonate in Unai's mind, when he makes plans for the summer recruiting.

When Unai says "I  want more".....That is a euphemism alright.

 

 

As you know, "Stats" can be very misleading . I posted a comment at half  - time with the opinion, Chelsea showing that possession for possession sake means nothing. In that first - half, imo, we looked like the team more likely to score. I had no sense of panic althrough  that half. And a lot of that confidence was down to Martinez and his calmness when making decisions and that was also evident in the defence. Yet when Olsen entered the contest, that sense of calmness seemed to evaporate, even before he had touched the ball, that loss of assurance and confidence was almost palpable, hence the quietness of the crowd. I'm in no way claiming Olsen was at fault for the goals conceded, my point is, in the second half   we never had the same calmness and defensive discipline that we had in the first, and I don't believe it's just a coincidence that we lost our self  - belief when Emi went off. 

We no longer had that threat on the counter and at times Olsen was going long. That's how I saw the game. Who does the fault lie with? That's for the manager to work out. I'm not hating on Olsen, I just think he doesn't inspire confidence in the way Emi does, and, for me, that was clearly evident against Chelsea. 

I really didn't want these cheating bastards to win the title again. I see Pep is probably out of there by 25, just as the sentence is being pronounced. 

1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said:

I don't come in to this thread very often and must confess I hadn't heard that there was a Shogun series that had been made (or of anyone that's seen it) - from the reviews here it sounds like it's fantastic - is there any likelihood of it being re-broadcast on the type of channels where people actually see stuff? Seems a shame for it to be hidden away.

Incidentally, another, apparently, great show from the same network as Shogun, "Dopesick" as just landed on IPlayer. I noticed it today. I shall give it a gander myself. 

12 minutes ago, Chindie said:

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Ishido and Yabushige discuss the Anjin being useful long term as he is a tool that can be used to undermine the Jesuits and their pet lords, and would be helpful to Ishido once his immediate threat, Torunaga, is dealt with. Yabushige, who is attempting to play everyone with a view to improving his lot anyway he can, intervenes to rescue him as he can play it as a win to either side - Torunaga wants Blackthorne as much as Ishido would so he can play both sides by intervening.

The show doesn't make this pointedly clear but the scenes with Ishido in the episode make it obvious that eventually he's going to be in conflict with the Christians and he will benefit from anything that helps oppose them, and his discussion with Yabushige has the undercurrent of someone being very careful to not say certain things whilst being clear what he means.

 

It helps somewhat. I'm guessing, but I would imagine the book conveys a greater clarity to such scenarios. That's not to undermine the series, I thought it up there with the best of shows.

I think the book has to be a must - read for me.

Once again, appreciate the interpretation. 

3 minutes ago, StanBalaban said:

Ange looks like the guy that's driven the team bus to the stadium.

Good observation. 

VAR, the proverbial love/ hate relationship .

Whilst rewatching Shogun I wonder if somebody could try and explain to me the reasons 

2 hours ago, Pinebro said:

A mistake fans made before the game was having it in their head that Chelsea is a shit team.

No they aren't. If they were they'd be fighting relegation. They are a point off an european spot. 

There are aspects of their game that are really, really strong and I knew that before the game.

When I look at Chelsea nd what they're doing it's far, far more sustainable than let's say Man Utd.

I would say they're inconsistent team, who at times look like a top 4 side and other times a mediocre side. It seem when they come to VP they revert to top 4 side.

33 minutes ago, onmeedson said:

The game changed on Tielimans going off, no work rate in midfield after that and Luiz just falls apart again without the work being done for him.

Agreed.

31 minutes ago, DJ_Villain said:

I hope that pricks mum catches hepatitis

Really!

2 minutes ago, imavillan said:

aint got a clue what this means

I'll take that as a blessing in disguise. 

1 hour ago, Rugeley Villa said:

Strange team Chelsea . Shit and decent at the same time. We’ve put the pressure on spurs now so let’s see 

Seem to raise their game at VP for some reason. 

2 minutes ago, imavillan said:

Really, it was one way traffic….it was inevitable they were going to score..,.they scored against EMI in the 1st half but for a VAR intervention….look at it without the claret and blue specs…..apart from the first 10 mins we’re 2nd best all round…..

 

Make your mind up. You said you was departing, why disappoint?

1 minute ago, meregreen said:

Simply allowed Chelsea far too much space and time. There was no press on the player in possession at all. Conversely, they were all over us the minute we tried to play out from our own box.

Exactly this. 

21 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said:

Olsen made a great save after the mix up but he makes me very nervous. Too many mistakes and doesn’t command his area well but pulls off some great saves when he plays. He wasn’t the reason we threw away a 2 goal lead but I was never confident with him in goal. 

That is the problem, he doesn't inspire confidence. If Emi hadn't gone off, I honestly believe we would have taken all three points. 

17 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

Wernt great but **** it got a point against the better team on the day. Hopefully they play even better against Spurs and beat them. 

That's a foregone conclusion. If they lose that, Poch will be sacked. 

23 minutes ago, ozvillafan said:

While I agree that Olsen doesn't inspire confidence, the 2nd half stats were pretty much a repeat of the first - except we somehow managed to score 2.

It's a fact, and there's no getting away from it. Olsen does not inspire the same confidence in his defence as Emi does. The second  - half was ample proof.

It's the assumption that I would respond that I find most offensive. 

5 minutes ago, the_eristic said:

Caught in two minds between Gallagher and Palmer.

More like caught with his pants down. 

4 minutes ago, ianifratti said:

Chelsea pressed really well but we barely strung 2 passes together. Possibly Luiz worst performance in a Villa shirt but most were below average. I expected a different Villa to come out in the second half but it was just more of the same 

When I seen Olsen coming on, I kind of sensed that they smelt blood. They really upped their intensity after the break, causing us to panic in possession. 

10 minutes ago, Davkaus said:

I've been wanting him to get minutes since he was back, but yeah, it was poor, and I suspect he'll be gone in the summer if we can find a buyer. Came on, gave away a bunch of unnecessary fouls, hid from the shot.

More pissed off at Luiz for forcing his own substitution though, absolutely brainless at times.

Luiz, starting to believe his own hype. Far from the complete midfielder, and it showed today.

4 minutes ago, foreveryoung said:

Not sure why we do the sit back thingy after scoring, never works. We are an attacking team, the opposition always find it harder to get by when we are passing it about attacking. Defending it not one of our best tactics, an we seem to always fall foul of it.

Plenty of times we have sat back and looked comfortable whilst hitting teams on the break. Let's be honest, aside from them hitting the post, for all their possession, they never looked like scoring in the first - half. For some reason, Emi's absence maybe, we seemed to lose confidence in ourselves, especially defensively and invited Chelsea to gain all the momentum. Not closing down opponents in dangerous areas is always going to create problems and that's exactly what happened in that second  - half. 

Just now, Genie said:

Gallagher couldn’t believe how much time he had so thought it would be rude kit to have a shot.

Honestly, I now fully understand why Tim is likely to be sold.

1 minute ago, ozvillafan said:

Nah. Finish was excellent.

Should have been prevented long before that. Why not close the space?

1 minute ago, the_eristic said:

Know what we were trying to do, but minus Youri then Emi plus Doug playing awfully meant we had no control even in a defensive stance. Seemed like everyone's first touch was non-existent, too.

Spot - on. Losing Tielimans so early was a big blow. We certainly lost some momentum from that and then to come out for the 2nd half without Emi, you just knew it was going to be a struggle. I'm still trying to work out why Tim didn't close down and prevent that 2nd goal.