MarkLillis

Death threats during the Euros....from crazy girls!

1 minute ago, Thug said:

Jack is the best villa player that I can remember, and I’m going back to the Graham Taylor Mk 1 days.

Theres a difference between the word ‘legend’ and a brilliant brilliant footballer.

For me, forcing a move away takes legendary status away from you.

I’ve said before in this thread that Jack has earned the right to move, and that I will never have anything but love for him.  However, the COST of that move will be to lose his legendary status - much like Platt and Yorke. When you wish to give your best years to another club, then you are no longer a legend.

Thats my opinion obv.

I also go back to GT mark 1 era. 

We've seen many great players over the years, but nothing like Jack...he is truly special and if he left now I would be happy that I have seen many great moments from him in Claret and Blue

He isn't a legend yet though there's more for him to do before he gets to that status, if he leaves now his best career moments will without doubt (baring a catastrophic injury) be away from Villa Park.

How can he possibly be a Villa legend if that happens?

1 hour ago, FrannyLee1968 said:

good comment.

..and lets face it, Villa are doing to Norwich what City are doing to you.

Difference is Norwich might not have a team after you sign ALL their good players.

I guess its a case of glass houses.....

Villa are doing nothing of the sort.They have signed a very good player who was clearly using Norwich as a stepping stone and may well think the same thing about Villa.

Villa were never a stepping stone for Jack.

Having said there is a football hierarchy and Arab money has put Citeh at the of the football food chain so I can see your point.

1 hour ago, AVTuco said:

But as has been discussed here, Jack is so much more than "just" a player. In my 40 years of following Villa we have not had such an exciting player that all league talk about and most of the world starts to know. I'd really hate to lose that side and revert back to discussing the good old days.

 

This is exactly how I feel.

Not only that but he is one of us.
 

Brought up in the same way,in the same area doing the same things.

It’s the end of a very short but enjoyable era if he goes…if he stays there are no limits with these owners.UTV

4 minutes ago, maqroll said:

There's a huge premium for English players, though. Marketable ones like Grealish are hard to put a price tag on. At the end of the day, he's worth what the market bears out for him.

Agreed 

He is invaluable to us as a club.

In my opinion this only happens if Jack makes it happen otherwise no transfer fee is big enough.

12 minutes ago, TRO said:

But at the end of the day, 10 teams finished higher than us in the league last season, who did not have Jack Grealish; it is not literally impossible to play the sport successfully without him in the starting XI.

Of course.

However if he leaves it just feels like all the other times….we want/need this time with Jack to be different.

The only way we can replace him is bring in two or three players that can come in and bring assists, carries and goals with them.

That said I don’t want him to leave….he is our talisman and the whole club benefits whilst he is with us.

No signings can replace him and what he means to us.If he goes it means that this “project” is no different to any other.

2 hours ago, mjmooney said:

That's what I said to my Albion mate. 

He's gone from bitter envy to anger to resigned depression about it all. 

Naturally I've been trolling him mercilessly.   

 

They are a little upset about things aren't they.

They've gone from Pride of the Midlands to our feeder team in three years.

Isn't it great to see the Villa acting like the biggest club in the area again at last...the last 10 years have been a gift to the Baggies but now they had their fun!

21 hours ago, jim said:

Same problem last year. Ordered the quarter zip on release day in July. I didn’t get it until beginning of Sept. Jokers.

You wouldn't tolerate it anywhere else.

Football clubs and kit manufacturers (especially) get away with far more than other industries imo

I stopped buying kits years ago, in fact I don't even go into the club shop......they really should to do a better job enticing fans to buy merchandise, especially season ticket holders....

But they don't care, especially while we just tolerate crap kits that we don't like and ridiculous lead times like the one you mention!

I love Villa but i don't love being ripped off every time i have to buy anything but a match ticket

29 minutes ago, villa4europe said:

I think that's an air of romanticism unfortunately 

This idea that any achievement at man City would be meaningless carries no weight with me at all, I completely disagree with it, of course winning something with villa is better but with city he'd have the opportunity to win competitions were not even in and unfortunately despite our great owners  and progression we still look years away from being in 

Man City’s trophies are meaningless to us…Villa fans.

Jack winning trophies with them will be meaningless to Aston Villa.

His club….in his town.

Of course maybe that means nothing to him as a professional player and he is just the same as every other pro,I just hope this time is different.

23 minutes ago, CVByrne said:

 

We've got a team on the rise and we have whatever amazing sales pitch we put in to get Buendia so excited. 

blah...blah..money...blah....and we have Jack Grealish in our side btw!

I don’t think we are ready to move on from the Jack Grealish era just yet.

It doesn’t feel right…..he has unfinished business still!

4 hours ago, babyblue said:

It just needs belief in your plan and the courage to stick to it. That's been one of the most admirable things since winning the league, the owners decided how we wanted to go about things and despite ups and downs they stuck to that 

Absolutely agree.

I just happen to believe that our plan is to build a team around Jack and I also believe he is on board with it.

This plan will also have its ups and downs and as you know means that we go through this speculation about our best player every year!

9 minutes ago, Made In Aston said:

They won the FA Cup and have only just missed out on top 4 in the last two seasons. 

of course the point is if they keep their better players they would have finished top 4.....

Kante, Chilwell ,Maguire Mahrez have all finished in the top 4 and played Champions league football with their new clubs since they left Leicester.

11 hours ago, Awol said:

Didn’t stop Danny Murphy trying to sell him regardless. ‘Short career, take it while you can’ etc. would love to know the root of his beef with Villa. 

I don’t know either, but I always link it to his time at Charlton when they were an up and coming club.

 Villa were always an easy target for up and coming sides in the past.

2 hours ago, nick76 said:

Great they get a beautiful shirt that shows where you can drive around Europe and we get a home shirt that looks like it's been driven over with re the tyre mark design.  They get the professional look, we get the 5 year old's version.

It’s a shame that the club can’t manage to produce a great looking kit.

However we don’t have to buy it.
 

I wish more people would decide not too, then the club might consider the fan’s opinion instead of signing off on another dodgy kit!

Just imagine the fallout if Jack had missed a penalty.

I for one…. am glad he didn’t take one

17 minutes ago, TRO said:

Personally, I had no worries, whatsoever of his buy back clause being triggered.

his potential is what it is......a notion he will come good.

I hope you are right, I'm not convinced, but hope I am wrong to be in doubt.

I agree,in my opinion Man City have no need for a player at his level right now.

I hope he can improve and for fill his potential with us.

If you ask me the kit designers haven’t  got a clue.

1 minute ago, PieFacE said:

Don't really like the idea of signing Cantwell tbh. 

Cantwell always seemed a very decent player to me.Good engine and a consistent performer for Norwich.

May well be our second choice behind JWP.

I would like to see us go top of the Premier at some stage.Eventually mounting a strong challenge for Europe.

A win against Man Utd at Villa Park would also be nice.

5 minutes ago, tomav84 said:

to be fair, this is the first time (correct me if i'm wrong) that reputable journos like percy and romano have confirmed there is genuine interest from another team. we didn't hear a peep off them last summer about jack. i think that's why it seems a bit more 'real' this time around.

Fair enough.It’s not the way it’s being understood by the general public though.

It’s crazy.There’s no credible news regarding this and yet the whole country thinks it’s happening!

My Mrs came home from work on Friday and said “sorry about Jack leaving babe”

Ive been visiting family this weekend in the North east and they are asking me how I think he will get on at Citeh.

I can’t be arsed to explain…..

8 minutes ago, DJ_Villain said:

 

But as soon as he wants to join another Premier League club? He is basically saying he wants to compete against us and win in spite of us…

He would be happy scoring the winning goal for his new team if it won them a trophy and relegated us…

Thats all I see it as…

and that’s not what a Villa fan should ever, ever want…

“Short career” and “winning trophies” be damned

 

I just can’t see him doing this…..but you are quite right.

Legendary status is tough to keep after he has played  and even scored against Villa!