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Bruce is here until the end of the season, that is the reality.

1 minute ago, TrentVilla said:

I said indicator of the flow of the game.

How is it different? Well we’ve had the same number of shots on goal as Wolves, would you say the game has been even?

Of course it hasn’t. So as I said, shots on target is hardly a good indicator of a flow of a game.

I think this is were we fundamently disagree. Wolves have been tidy in possession but been very poor with he final ball, think it's been not much in it for either side.

4 minutes ago, TrentVilla said:

I didn’t say ‘key factor in the outcome of the game’ though did I.

No, you dismissed them by saying it's "hardly a good indicator" of the game...whats the difference?

1 minute ago, TrentVilla said:

Nobody has said we were diabolical. 

Shots on target is hardly the best indicator of the flow of a game.

Sorry Trent, shots on target literally are a key deciding factor in the outcome of the game. 

stick with the 4-4-2.

On 10/2/2017 at 01:23, Czechlad said:

I am pretty sure Murphy has been hurt for a while

He has, sure I saw an interview saying Bruce lamenting how little he'd seen him playing after "him being the one everyone talked up" to him.

a win here and I'll be a Bruce believer. 

14 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said:

...because if he's on as much as I think he is then we simply cannot afford to have relatively big earners sitting on the bench when the parachute payments start to halve YoY. 

.....but we're gonna win the league.

1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

These posts are insinuating that this is a totally isolated event.

How many times has he done the exact same in the past?

Granted, he usually redeems himself, but he has also cost us, and other players also!

Equally, you could argue that you are isolating the mistakes without taking into fact his goal scoring record.

Top strikers are selfish, all of them..they need to be to have the instinct to shoot without thinking, which you have to do against high level keepers.

How many games has he won us by being "selfish" vs how many has lost us due to that reason? 

Just now, lapal_fan said:

It was a big problem in the context of the moment itself.  

Adding hypothetical situations isn't great for an argument, but I can see where he was coming from.  

He should absolutely have squared the ball, no ifs, buts or maybes. 

The point is that it wasn't a big problem, as he scored literally by his own doing a minute later. No ifs, buts or maybes.

It's only a big problem if you apply it to a hypothetical situation int he future....but then again hypothetically he may just learn to square to his team-mate.

The point is, it is ridiculous to slate a good player, playing well, and won us the game.

edit: double post, sorry.

28 minutes ago, Phumfeinz said:

I don't expect players to play 100% perfect games, I expect them to make the right decision when it's clearly the right thing to do. 

Could you imagine if that happened in a play-off game and we ended up losing? "Eh it's ok cut him some slack." Bollocks.

It wasn't a play off game, though was it? It was a game against Bolton, in which he scored the only goal and the winner.

Just now, Phumfeinz said:

No. The team comes first, always. It was horrendously selfish and 100% the wrong thing to do.

Cutting players slack for shit decisions is part of why we're in the situation we're in.

Sorry mate, you're right. We should lambaste players that don't play a 100% perfect games with 100% correct consistent decision making. Especially one's coming back from a horrendous injury, who's been playing very well and transformed the side, and wants to build some goal-scoring confidence.

Ridiculous.

Kodija has a couple of assists since he came back, i can't begrudge him for trying to break the duck.

It took big character to take the penalty and score after such a glaring miss, cut the man some slack.

31 minutes ago, brommy said:

Were you at the game?

My thoughts exactly, people seem to see what they want to.

If we best wolves, will people admit there has been noticeable improvement? 

1 minute ago, TrentVilla said:

Better teams may give you more space, they may also give you less of the ball. They will almost certainly be more capable of hurting you with the ball than Bolton or indeed the likes of Burton, Barnsley or Forest have been.

Yes the ref was poor but so was our play, lets not pretend otherwise.

I think you're looking at it the wrong way, our possession with the ball of late has been more direct..there has definitely been improvement in that department since kodja and Davis started playing together.

You will see players like adomah and Snodgrass exploit the space against "better teams", we've always struggled against teams that sit back and never created any openings, there has been noticeable improvement.

1 hour ago, peterms said:

Today I  saw little creativity or directness, against a dreadful team who haven't won for ages, and this week even before playing us had set a new club record for games without scoring.

The points are welcome, the performance utterly unconvincing.

I think you need to take a moment and analyse the game properly. Bolton' s game plan was to deny us any space or openings, and we created a few key chancee, enough to win the game.

If you thought we'd start carving open a team with 11 men behind the ball in afraid you're expectations need a reality check, not that long ago we couldn't create anything against teams like that. That is progress.

Bigger will try push higher up and we will exploit the spaces left, that I am confident of.

1 hour ago, cyrusr said:

We are also still struggling to break down teams. It would seem we have played a lot better away and if teams sit back, it takes individual brilliance to sort it.

I strongly disagree with this, there has been clear improvement. Many of the goals we've scored this month have been direct killer passes behind the defence, which have been missing for a long long time. Today we could of daily had another couple of goals, opened up a very defensive Bolton a number of times (including kodjas miss, the one off the line and Hogans miss). Amy other season we would not have created anything.

I understand the sceptism towards the recent results, but you can't deny there have been improvement in our attacking creativity and directivness.

Let's be totally honest, this team is showing signs of improvement. It's a process and we're showing we can break teams that sit back and keep it compact....something we have struggled with for YEARS. No-one can deny that.

Credit to the boys, they've come under stick on this site for not being to control the ball, but improvment on that aspect today, and a lot of intention from the midfield to play the killer pass..something that's been missing for years.

Strange one, in the sense that he moved here to prove to Spurs he could play the box-to-box role rather than the number 10...and now it seems he's being forced into the latter here.

Personally, he doesn't have the quickness or the creative pass to play number 10, but i am very impressed with his coolness on the ball.

Looking forward to that sexy mass hysteria 

Brucey's gonna win us the league mate.

He runs, he tackles, his cross is dynamite and he scores worldies.

4 hours ago, av1 said:

100% when everyone is we fit, we now have Grealish, Green, Snodgrass and Adomah all vying for 2 spots. That can only be a good thing. 

I think that's the reason he's playing so well, responded perfectly to being dropped. Loving the competition in the side, we're not just handing out minutes.