Neil

Its amazing how long hes been fit and available for selection for...dont remember an injury free streak like this at middlesborough.

Just an obsavation.

I wouldn't say Ireland is the only player the teacher has pissed off, very bad man manager.

I've often wondered....what exactly is your opinion of Houllier?

I looked at the match reports and seems he didnt start, looked on physioroom.com and says hes got knee injury and expected to be back by 15th of Feb.

How's he getting on over at Newcastle, has he started for them?

It's all gone wrong since giving em the vote, should never have been allowed.

On a serious note where do I get one of those "would you smash it" t shirts?

A game totally made into a lottery because of conditions. You only have to look at the other scores.

Bad poits - we never played the condition. As other results and all 4 goals proved, we should have shot on site, put crosses into the area for the ball to swerve - we hardly did it, instead atempting to play tippy tappy - which was never going to work in those conditions.

Gabby and Ash - they are becoming a total and utter waste of space - they are totally ineffective at the minute. They either need to improve of be shipped out.

Good points - you can see right in front of you the improvements we are making. I know the tble don't say it, but I feel we are now out of the relegation battle, and within the next few weeks will be around 9th, and can start looking at getting 7th which should get us Europa.

Downing. Thought he has struggled of late, but yesterday worked his socks off again. All our good play came through him.

Makoun - good and bad. Good - one touch play is second to none. However, he needs to learn composure. Many times yesterday he put us into trouble by trying a one touch pass near our own area. However, looked good and promosing for future

Bad - probaby his worst game so far, but Walker still looks class - Spurs will never sell him !.

You certainly make some good and valid points here.

Agree its harsh on gabby, he was shit, but that position does not come natural to him at all. Everyone but Houllier knows what Gabby is about I think :?:

No players out injured, 3 of his own players in the starting line up, terrible selection decision with Gabby and Young. No excuses available today for Houllier that simply wasn't good enough, not even close to being good enough.

Yeah, did smack of managerial selection/tactic problems.

You could say the defence should have been better and the keeper should have definitely been better.

However, not realising the problems on the pitch and making any form of subs way earlier was a massive fail. Gabby out there was a massive fail.

As soon as we went 2-1 up we were screaming to make a change sooner and set things a light. Instead leaving it till the last minute when theres no time for any sub to make a real impact (and could they even be arsed, I dont blaime them).

Another game that was easily winnable and all it needed was to match them tactically and it was in the bag. That is down to the manager.

I dont think they have played better as a team than us tonight...they made less mistakes though.

Only way to try and batter the doors down of an unbeaten team when your losing is go for broke all out attack...like it

Lovely shot by young.

Ashley Young hasn't put a free kick on target in far too long.

Further than my memory goes back! I wish someone else in the team would have the balls to say "listen young, your free kicks are shit your not taking them I am...infact your not going to take another free kick until you stop wearing that poncy snood".

When was the last time Ashley Young did anything good with a free kick.

Surely a pen!

I'm at a loss to work out what just happened there.

Superb run by super mark and bent should have been all over that but the pair of them were bumbling aroud on the floor?

Blimey what a landslide compared to the other voting topic.

Never seen such a scale tip so quickly

I think we'll win it, we nearly beat em last time but weve come on some from those days.

I think we have to win it otherwise we could be penalised for taking sides in the manchester derby....we done city now lets do united

I saw the game, thoguht we played excellently but man Blackburn were shocking.

The cross to make delfonsos goal was brilliant.

So I read in another thread that he is out for the game at the weekend, is that the fact he is still injured or is he just frozen out?

Played some really lovely football today. It does seem now everyone has been fit for a while, couple new signings, players have just lifted the game.

Not 100% about right man but signs are starting to look positive. I must say though, I can't see why anyone would NOW vote 'sack'....it'd obviously make no sense, we'll see at the end of the season...then it'll be more of a debate.

I'm also glad we are pretty much moving away from relegation and up the table, especially considering some people believed it was near certainty we'd go down under Houllier.

Surely we are overdue an "experiment"

I'd like to see how that looks now.

Why are we still talking about him...onwards and upwards yah?

Why the **** didn't we do this last year? Or the year before.

Didnt ask for enough wages...figured it was too good to be true, lol.

Wonder how this poll would pan out if we were to do it again now. Funny how things change so quickly haha.

Typical of bentley to have a good game for them, he was making a difference in there team. Without him we would have run them ragid.

Well, we're not playing him so we might as well sell him. I think he's a fantastic player, but it just isn't happening.

If hes been injured for 3 weeks then...which incidently puts a lot of food for thought on some comments in this thread.

Unles of course people think its not a real injury.

"I am not looking to sign a striker. Not at the moment. I'm quite happy with Emile [Heskey] and John Carew did extremely well this week in training."

What is it that Houllier and Mon see in the team that clearly nobody else does?

I've decided 100% I'm not renewing next season for me and my son for the first time in 8 years(4 for my son). Nothing to do with Houllier. I'm just fed up with it. Villa and football have got boring to be honest.

It costs a lot of money, very rarely are we entertained, were highly unlikely to win anything and it's cheaper to buy your tickets separately anyway with all the deals they throw at fans(which I used to point out to the general but got shouted down for it). There seems very little benefit of being a ST holder.

It cracked me up the other night when they did the poxy badge giveaway at the Sunderland game. I never took my 10 year old season ticket holding son as it was his first day back to school. I showed them his season ticket and asked if I could have one fore him explaining why he hadn't come. They informed me they were under 'strict' instructions not to give any extra out as they only had enough for those that turned up? I pointed out they were expecting him but they wouldn't budge for their 'strict' instructions. Just pathetic, I know its a very minor thing but the club doesn't give a shit about us so why should we bother caring back?

This for me shouldnt be confused with what I'm talking about.

If the whole thing has been going stale for you for some time and your just kind of fed up with it then its warranted not to spend your money on it.

My point is knee jerk reactions to one manager being in charge for half a season.

Just cant get the "I would renew but I wont because of Houllier" ideas.