The_Steve

Tonight is proving just how better Dunne is than Collins.

That's like choosing your favourite chuckle brother.

Tonight is proving just how better Dunne is than Collins.

No Heskey and Collins and we start passing the ball around more.

Positive first half, undone by a silly mistake by Clark.

Good effort Barry.

**** sake Ireland.

And Daglish also. What a pathetic and childish bunch.

I'm pretty confident we won't sell him.

He said Downing was "not going anywhere" - few days later sold.

I'm pretty sure he said it would take a big offer for him to leave - which we received. Or shall we also blame McLeish for Downing handing in a transfer request?

He specifically said Downing was "not going anywhere" unless there was an offer of £50 million.

He was sold few days later.

£20 million for Downing was good and i blame the board but McLeish again was made to look incompetent with that silly comment . The board admitedly undermined him there.

No, I don't see it that way. He was sold a week later. After putting in a transfer request - Downing forced the move nobody else. It was perfectly reasonable for McLeish stating he didn't want to sell when the assumption was Downing wanted to stay months previously. I don't blame McLeish at all for the sale or the board. It's just how football works.

He said Downing was "not going anywhere" - few days later sold.

I'm pretty sure he said it would take a big offer for him to leave - which we received. Or shall we also blame McLeish for Downing handing in a transfer request?

"The decision was taken in accordance with the Code for Crown Prosecutors and after careful consideration of all the evidence I am satisfied there is sufficient evidence for a realistic prospect of conviction and it is in the public interest to prosecute this case.

"Mr Terry will appear before West London magistrates' court on 1 February 2012. He is now summonsed with a criminal offence and has the right to a fair trial. It is extremely important that nothing should be reported which could prejudice his trial."

The CPS also released the full text of the charge against Terry, which reads: "On 23rd October 2011 at Loftus Road Stadium, London W12 you used threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress which was racially aggravated in accordance with section 28 of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998. Contrary to section 31 (1) © of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998."

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Luis Suarez can't be racist, his favourite Star Wars character is Lando Calrissian.

Terry will be charged with a racially aggravated public order offence.

It's not an FA conspiracy as Gordon Taylor points out

"This was an independent commission experienced in law and football and they must have had compelling evidence, and it sends out a very strong message to the rest of the world.

"I understand the point about cultural differences but if you come to this country all players have to abide by not just the laws of the game but the laws of the land as well. Referring to someone's skin colour has got to be offensive – it's self-evident.

"No one can say the FA have ducked this issue and bearing in mind outcry in this country over Sepp Blatter's remarks it sends out an important message. This is a timely reminder for the FA, the PFA and the clubs to continue education programmes particularly for players coming from abroad: it is never right to make reference to a person's skin colour or nationality."

It's amazing, reading some Liverpool fans reactions they fail to see how the term "negro" is racist despite it's historical references to slavery. Oh, we all know Liverpool fans love to scream and maintain victim-hood at the hands of the FA but they are merely following precedent with this ban.

A month after the investigation began, the FA has ruled it has enough evidence to charge Suárez with an offence that, if proven, will lead to a substantial ban. A precedent was set in 2003 when John Mackie of Reading was banned for eight matches, five of which were suspended, after making racist remarks to the Sheffield United striker Carl Asaba. However, Mackie admitted that charge whereas Suárez is denying his, meaning he would almost certainly face tougher sanctions if he were found guilty.

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Disturbing that some so called 'fans' are trying to spread bollocks about fall outs etc, with no ounce of proof!

How about this, he was out buying Randy's xmas present. About as much merit as claiming he has fallen out with anyone.

Keep hearing about how he is going to be sold, why would anyone buy him when he's been shit, something people seem to be forgetting.

We've created less than last year but he's also missed a lot of the chances we've created for him!

Indeed.

At least Sunderland lost today.

The attendance today was still above 37,000. If it drops to 30,000 maybe Randy will notice.

I saw McLeish look deeply worried and serious around the 80 minute mark. Sadly I don't have a screen shot of it. That picture proves nothing. A snap shot of many during a game.

the picture proves he was laughing, you dont have a picture showing what ever it is you claim.

i would be genuinely iunterested to know why you blindly support the most hated and crap manager this club has had since, well since i can remember, i include DOL, billy mcneill, graham turner, venglos and co in this as well.

I'm simply stating there's no context given for the smile just him smiling. The picture doesn't indicate for how long for etc. I'm not blindly defending McLeish as you so claim. Merely pointing out having a picture of McLeish smiling proves little when you have no clue as to what the context is.

Today was very poor, I've said throughout the match thread the fundamental problems we have in defence and how easily we gave the ball away today. Things were much worse under O'Leary. At least we haven't had a 3-0 against Doncaster. We don't have a good enough squad or simply McLeish isn't willing to try Cuellar or Clark and I really don't understand why.

I'm sick of seeing Collins and Dunne start every week.

I saw McLeish look deeply worried and serious around the 80 minute mark. Sadly I don't have a screen shot of it. That picture proves nothing. A snap shot of many during a game.

It's about time we stopped blaming Mcleish - name one manager that would come in and do well with this team. Lerner has turned it into this, our squad is very average.

Lerner has never managed the team, surely are defensive hangover from MON's over indulgence on ageing defenders on long contract. Defending set pieces has been a problem for the past 3-4 seasons.

This defence performed well for MON. Our vulnerability against set pieces crept in with Houllier. Hutton crept in with Eck.

We conceded plenty of goals from set pieces in MON's final season.

It's about time we stopped blaming Mcleish - name one manager that would come in and do well with this team. Lerner has turned it into this, our squad is very average.

Lerner has never managed the team, surely our defensive hangover from MON's over indulgence on ageing defenders on long contract. Defending set pieces has been a problem for the past 3-4 seasons.

How lucky are Liverpool? We made them look great today. Charlie Adam should have been sent off, Agger got away with an obvious handball.

We were very poor defensively, gave the ball away too often, lacked urgency. The only good performances were Albrighton and N'Zogbia.

**** hell, Adam gets away with another foul.

Bannan's actually been fairly abysmal since coming on.

He's fled the midfield scene a few times since coming on.