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31 minutes ago, Mic09 said:
I would happily depart with a lot of money for that shirt. It would be an all time classic.
Sadly we couldnt do this as a kit but no reason we couldn’t do a apparel collaboration
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Maybe NSWE saw what Liverpool were building in terms of their new Anfield Road End and decided for over a £100million they’d rather not spend that on a stand with a similar exterior and demanded a rethink ?
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Here’s the link to access the full documents list…
If you view the drawings for the corner of the trinity and new north stand you’ll see that by removing the current super riser of the trinity and tweaking the rake of the stand that would add another 6 rows and bring the seating closer to the pitch. Do that the whole length of the trinity, whilst keeping in place areas for disabled fans still you’ve increased capacity rather easily which I’m sure a firm as reputable of Grimshaw would’ve explored and advised the club about. We do not know if it was them that were Instructed to look at the whole seating bowl and draw up plans.
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25 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:
The study wasn't carried out until after the North Stand was cancelled - in fact, the study was carried out after the 2-3k small increase was mentioned - I think we'll see the results of that study in the hospitality developments this summer.
The initial plans stated an increase of 2-3 seats to take us to 53’000 so was always on the agenda as part of phase 3. This is set out in the readily available Design & Access Part 1 statement released in 2022…
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40 minutes ago, Captain_Townsend said:
That may be the case but It doesn't excuse the amateur way we were communicated to in December about why it was on hold or where the new new badge went.
Why not say the medium term plan is to get VP to 50k. We would have avoided debates about a new stadium, price hikes on a 42k being the strategy etc etc.
But again what’s wrong with debate and speculation on a bloody forum … Why should they spoon food every single drop of info to appease some ? Why can’t plans change and have to be definitive ? Why can’t the new appointments and investment alter matters medium term ? What Heck said was correct at the time for the club or he wouldn’t have done it, but things change quickly. Why was it amateur ? Why is waiting for an end of season reveal of the new badge such a bad thing - maybe the inept FA are the reason it was delayed. Maybe commercially it’s better for the new badge and kit manufacturer and sponsor be launched to coincide with our 150th year.
The new north stand will happen there is no doubt about that whatsoever - just not at some fans preferred timescale. Trust the process they’ve earned that. -
Just now, Captain_Townsend said:
'Heck views the redevelopment plan of rebuilding the North Stand as a "bad idea" considering it would mean the stadium's capacity would drop to 36,000 from the start of next season and until 2025/26. "Over the summer months I became more concerned we were adding too many seats too fast," he explained'
There woild have been better ways to signal that the club still had ambitions of a 50k Villa Park!
At that time he and the club thought it would be best to wait … not sure why that concept is so hard for some to grasp ? Also the article doesn’t give a timeline which I know will be to your annoyance but, the club are working on incremental improvements to the Holte & Trinity, improving transportation links, starting work this summer on The Warehouse… We now have the expertise at board level to advise and run major redevelopment, the Edens article stating there’s a wider project in the works, we also have another financial partner in Altarios. Maybe just maybe a bit of patience is required and also faith. The club have earned that.
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51 minutes ago, sidcow said:
Why is Heck talking openly about increasing the size of Villa Park to 50,000?
Because that’s the clubs long term plan still but people cannot grasp it may have just been put on hold not completely cancelled …
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9 hours ago, nnock1984 said:
I’d take Hermoso and Ndidi on frees to start us off
Thing is they’re not free’s that’s a myth. what isn’t spent on a transfer fee goes on extortionate wages, large agents fees and massive signing on bonuses… Ndidi wouldn’t be worth the wages he’d command and you basically need to bribe agents with stack loads of cash to get their clients to sign…
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4 hours ago, OutByEaster? said:
File under comedy. There are a good eight or nine errors just in that section. It's a fairytale.
Who cares it’s the £££ that matters surely - that’s all I took away from the article.
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Villa go el loco for Brest’s - Locko…
linked with 22 yo French LB along with plop & spam …
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The vertigo and blizzard of Oz crazy train artwork lends itself perfectly to be repurposed in homage. Club better be paying attention for once of here and I propose it’s brought up in the next fans meeting !
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11 minutes ago, Muller Yogurt Long Sleever said:
I present the Classic and the Bat-eater
That black and purple with the lion is just perfect …
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35 minutes ago, allani said:
How much is Ozzy worth these days (or the Osbourne family generally)? Surely there's scope for a Black Sabbath official rock partner of Aston Villa type deal to sit alongside this proposed third kit....
A black sabbath collaboration on clothing and merchandise would be ace and sell shit loads … imagine tops with Aston Villa FC using the sabbath logo typeface
calling all talented designers
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29 minutes ago, Captain_Townsend said:
We both want what is best.
It's just I have seen two previous plans for a new NS stalled over the past 25 years and nothing ended up being done. I would rather we just pushed ahead rather than delay - even if it is to plan something bigger. Events deqr boy, events. I can easily see a scenario where something unforseen goes wrong in the next 3 or 4 years (remember the impact of Lerner's Divorce!) And we end up looking at the 1977 North stand and thinking "blimey, how many lives does that thing have".
On Purslow, he definitely left things in better shape than he found them and those now occupying senior roles inherited something of a different plane to the mess he walked into in 2018.
Again as I said comes down to personal preference but we’re all the same as in we want what’s best for the club. Just I’m happy with non sound bites and can see actions happening for the long benefit of us fans.
I also didn’t say Purslow wasn’t good for us but he did love the sound of his own voice and face on camera - fact and in NSWE eyes reached his ceiling and served his purpose so was politely moved on.
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2 hours ago, Captain_Townsend said:
All sounds great and I would agree with you 110% on the scale of that. Regarding the plan we had for the new NS and Villa Live etc, I don't see how they are incompatible with what you outline to be honest. The tagine of the video render two years ago even ends 'New era for Aston and Witton' and they always said there were other phases to follow.
Also, I still query a comms strategy of going from a bombshell announcement coming up to Christmas and no follow up over the next 6 months - we were accustomed to being kept in the loop by Purslow. Even a sentence 'The club is still working on plans for redevelopment of Villa Park and will update in May 2024' would have gone a long way.
The lack of said sentence has led to speculation ranging from we are copying Chelsea with a 40k range stadium but full of premium to we are building a new stadium!
It comes down to personal preference then as I’d rather the club did their talking through actions and not soundbites. We’ve appointed a highly experienced new board whose backgrounds could be read as being something major is being worked on. Heck has come out and said he hasn’t been doing a lot of taking these 9 months as he’s been working a hard on increasing our commercial contracts which have more than doubled across the board.
He’s put pressure on the inept council to do something about the transportation issues and we now have a bus service to central Brum. Who knows what else is to be announced when it’s signed sealed and delivered. They’re not empty words & hollow promises but hard fact actions.
Whats wrong with fans speculating either ? It’s a forum which is a place to muse, share opinion etc.
Purslow loved the sound of his own voice and face on camera. He did well to a level but now we’re looking at operating against the established big clubs and give me silence yet tangible results than a 6 monthly look at me press release.
Again I will highlight the comment from Heck it’s currently about all fans and not just one stand. Yes the North stand isn’t fit for purpose and it will be replaced when it’s right for the club.
We’ve got the financial backing and an expert board to really make a difference now. It’s a one shot once in a lifetime opportunity to make Villa park the central part of a broader redevelopment and that takes time to piece together. If the club doesn’t do that then someone else will and then it won’t serve and benefit our long terms interests at all.
if we can purchase the houses surrounding the north stand and behind the Witton - those areas can be used to house more people & apartments which are fit for the 21st century. We can build bigger housing more fans. By doing so we don’t have to worry as much about right to light and then build a larger north stand and Witton stand better serving us. By being in control of the immediate area surrounding our ground then expansion becomes easier and financially viable. We can host more events with less carnage on locals, we can make more money from people outside of Aston coming to Villa Park - if they have a reason to.
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1 hour ago, Captain_Townsend said:
Aye, but you see we had a big master plan. Very well publicised. Video render on YouTube and they just said we aren't doing that with nothing else. Hence all the speculation.
No we had a new stand and a municipal style building. I’m talking regeneration of the whole surrounding area master plan to bring the whole area up and make it a place people want to visit outside of match days. That will take a lot of will, money and no doubt government assistance through the levelling up fund which them down the road have accessed and utd are also looking at exploiting. We need none Villa fans coming to the area and spending money as well as the local community. We need more than just a new stand to achieve this. Aston as a whole is ripe for redevelopment and if we get onboard and be the driver for this we can ensure it’s in the clubs long term benefit.
Who the hell would wanna stay in a hotel next to the ground currently, but if the immediate vicinity for want of a better word is gentrified then we could look to host more seminars, exhibitions.etc and an onsite hotel becomes feasible over looking Aston Hall grounds and Villa park. -
23 minutes ago, sidcow said:
Yes I thought that. A wedding venue and bangueting suite is a derelict room? One hell of a lot of poetic licence there.
Over exaggeration is different to completely making up that the owner stated it's his aim to redevelop the area though.
Well it’s was after it flooded technically …
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Just read Sawiris is a stakeholder in the Joe & The Juice chain - they should become our new nutritional refreshment brand - anyone else fancy a £7 smoothie at half time
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23 minutes ago, abdulaziz1 said:
How’s Osorio doing? The winger from Chile? We’ve been linked to him and seem to be really good. Those type of players if they clicked like Rogers, are the best which we should start doing.
Plays for FC Midtjylland now … we’ve signed some young Colombian winger and have the Egyptian lad to sign so we are making those types of moves tbf.
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10 hours ago, Captain_Townsend said:
Hopefully. If that's the case, though, why not give a bit more info last December beyond 'we aren't doing that' and it was 'a bad idea' etc.
Who’s knows for sure but maybe the new boardroom appointments were considered necessary to work on a master plan. I take away from Heck’s interview that he wanted to squeeze current demand and upgrade the whole fan experience first before looking at a large expansion. Also pressures the council to do more than focus groups to renovate the train station(s) … No one is privy to what meetings are being held behind the scenes. I’d rather our owners did their work in the background then announce finalised plans for regeneration rather than them down the road speaking of spaceship stadiums and pie in the sky plans for a sporting hub, training ground etc which isn’t doable on the space they’ve acquired.
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56 minutes ago, ender4 said:
Sounds like they could look at CPO’s surrounding VP in order to aid expansion and drive regeneration … Be interesting to know how many houses are owner occupied and how many are HMO as a vast swathe of houses from looking at google maps have been expanded into what were once gardens. If we remove houses from Nelson Road we could then build a larger North Stand and even extend the trinity road stand. Liverpools new end stand holds almost 17k and the main stand 20k. Both the North and Trinity under current plans would hold 13k each …
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13 minutes ago, Captain_Townsend said:
Yes but with the Euros in 2028 as a firm deadline we have probably blown our chance of getting it done this side of 2030 and capitalising on the Emery era to get more bums on seats. 2026 was the original timelime (actually 2025 was when it was first announced!).
We could still start the almost year long preparatory works next season and then pull the stand down and still make the Euro’s deadline of 2027… I’m sure we could get dispensation if the ground isn’t quite finished by the start of the 27/28 season…
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He may well be carrying an injury or niggle which hasn’t been reported and he’s playing through the pain barrier to assist us through until the end of the season.
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Fair enough … we all see things differently and I guess I negated to take into consideration the car crash Gerrard era…
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