I personally believe Moyes peak was Everton 6 years ago now. He was on a hiding to nothing at Utd admittedly. You also in my eyes can't count what he did 14 years ago at PNE as any gauge of his suitability. Plus he looks like grounds Keeper Willy from the Simpsons  but rather him than Bruce Hughton or Pearson. 

Just now, sidcow said:

Well this is completely wrong isn't it?  Surely his management record is actually very good and in fact seems almost a specialist in halting a decline and turning it into promotion or near promotion!  Looking at his record I actually think he might be what we need as long as we pay him off and thank him on promotion back to the PL

Failed at Southampton, failed at Hull sacked twice by Leicester for falling out with the board. Embarrassed himself and the club on numerous occasions last season. I've posted this article in the other thread but sums him up perfectly and I don't want him near our club. 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/leicester-city/11711901/Nigel-Pearson-was-a-bully-and-deserved-to-be-sacked-by-Leicester-City.html

Failed miserably at Southampton sacked twice by Leicester for falling out with the board. Poor at Hull. And this sums up why I don't want him near our club 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/leicester-city/11711901/Nigel-Pearson-was-a-bully-and-deserved-to-be-sacked-by-Leicester-City.html

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Nigel Pearson was a bully, and deserved to be sacked by Leicester City

So it transpires you can be sacked for who you are as much as for what you do. Nigel Pearson's abrupt defenestration at Leicester City, amid claims by the club of "differences in perspective", could more accurately be distilled as a toxic clash of personalities. He had, quite frankly, become a liability, his habit of revelling in his image as a brutish, unreconstructed PE teacher anathema to Thai owners who have set great store by moral rectitude and a spirit of goodwill. In an age when a Premier League manager is required to be at least plausibly ambassadorial, Pearson's incorrigible narcissism offered as solid a pretext as any for being fired.

Not that this is a popular view. Gary Lineker, who has repaired his own feud with Pearson, spoke for many when he asked Leicester, rhetorically: "Could you kindly reinstate him like the last time you fired him? Are the folk running football stupid? Yes." Alas, it is far too sweeping a brushstroke. Under Lineker's logic, every foreign owner becomes tarred as some dastardly interloper, ruining our game, corroding its soul, while underlining time and again the failure to appreciate the rough-edged characters that Harry Redknapp might call "real football men". 

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On the contrary, Leicester chairman Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha and his fellow directors deserve at least a measure of gratitude for allowing a bully like Pearson to be perceived in his proper light. For if one cares to look beyond his team's stirring riposte last season, winning seven of their final nine games to stay up, one sees an arrogance and recidivism of sufficient gravity for ejecting him long ago. 

First came the 'throttling' of Crystal Palace midfielder James McArthur, a thuggish act that divided the club's board so starkly that he was dismissed and reinstated in the space of two hours. 

Then, in an outrageous slur upon flightless birds everywhere, he bizarrely derided one local journalist as an "ostrich". Naturally, given that many an audience with Pearson was an exercise in snarling one-upmanship - he labelled another reporter a "p---k" for posing a legitimate question, and told one of Leicester's own fans to "f--- off and die" - the word was not uttered affectionately. Image-wise for his employers, he was radioactively awful. 

^{Nigel Pearson holds down James McCarthur}

As such, they gave him the pink slip. It should have happened four months earlier, when Pearson, in the most egregious example of his ungovernable aggression, pinned McArthur to the ground by the neck and then boasted about how hard as nails he was. "I'm more than capable of looking after myself," he said, smirking. Yes, we gathered that, Nigel. We have heard the story of how you single-handedly fought off a pack of wild dogs in the Carpathian Mountains more often than most retellings of Goldilocks. 

• Who will be the next Leicester manager?

The one problematic aspect of Pearson's departure is that it was immediately triggered by a scandal not of his making. It is understood to be the video of his son James, a fringe player at Leicester, involved alongside two team-mates in a sex act with Thai prostitutes and then subjecting them to some choice racist abuse. 

^{James Pearson was sacked by Leciester for his part in a leaked video}

There is a debate to be had, in this case, about whether a young man's sins ought to be inflicted upon the father. After all, to make somebody redundant based solely on the actions of a family member would a establish dangerous precedent indeed. Should Stuart Pearce be viewed differently because his brother is an activist for the far-right British National Party? Should Joey Barton be rendered unemployable because one of his siblings is a convicted murderer? To embark upon such a path would be lunacy. 

That said, the episode in Thailand was hardly the most glowing look for Pearson. On the one side were Far Eastern benefactors looking to turn a tour of their country by the team they had bankrolled into a laudable cultural exchange mission. On the other were the classic 'boys on tour', producing a piece of amateur pornography with extra lashings of bigotry. That is about the most glaring "difference in perspective" it is possible to conceive, and not one that reflects well on the iron discipline supposed to have been one of Pearson's few redeeming qualities. Footballers' orgies on official business might have been de rigueur in George Best's pre-cameraphone day, but not when you are wearing a club jersey advertising the Thai tourist board. 

Where Pearson is concerned, though, it pays to recall the wisdom that it is the last straw that breaks the camel's back. He has been let go not as a direct consequence of Pearson Jnr's excursion to a Thai brothel but as punishment for his accumulated misdeeds. As Seneca once observed, "it is not the last drop that empties the water-clock, but all which has previously flowed out." 

^{Nigel Pearson salutes Leicester fans after a win at Southend in 2009}

A pithy verdict on Pearson was provided in the wake of his efforts at strangling McArthur. "Once a bully, always a bully," said Trevor Sinclair, the former QPR and West Ham winger. "Nigel Pearson shouldn't be allowed in the dugout." Ultimately, Leicester's powerbrokers agreed. By their statement that "we are acutely aware of our position, and that of our players", they illustrated beyond doubt their conclusion that Pearson had brought the club into disrepute. And in 2015, such fundamental discord between owner and manager is almost always a fatal line of rupture. 

To present Pearson as some sacrificial lamb in the overseas meddling with our national sport misses the point. He brought his demise upon himself, having flouted the universally acknowledged edict that if you antagonise the money-men, you walk the plank. His departure might briefly denude the Premier League of some colourful vernacular in interviews, but it is no cause for howling lament - least of all by ostriches.

Pearson overall managerial record is mediocre outside last seasons heroics though. He is an embarrassment waiting to happen. 

Yep a perfect storm of circumstances came together for Pearson and he did a great job in keeping them up can't deny that. But If he is such a good manager how come Sunderland Newcastle Swansea etc didn't appoint him? His overall record is poor. He is a hateful character. And I'll think you'll find it was Leicesters version of paddy Reilly who found Vardy & mahrez not Pearson personally. 

3 minutes ago, TRO said:

I don't know the details.....but no you can't condone racism, agreed.....maybe he has learnt from that with what has happened to His work at Leicester.

Ron Saunders had a similar demeanor to Pearson, so i am not put off by that.

maybe this squad needs a tough character in the circumstances we are in....its not for the feint hearted.

its rare to find a manager that is brilliant in every aspect.

I would lean towards a British manager this time, but not McLaren.

 

 

Fair points but I disagree that this squad needs a tough character it needs tearing apart. And Karanka, Billic & quique Flores haven't done too badly considering they didn't know the league. I want the best man available to us regardless of their nationality. 

If our shortlist is Hughton Bruce Pullis or Pearson... Just when you thought relegation was the lowest we could get. 

I'd rather not. Good coach shocking manager. Monk, & clement if we do go UK. Moyes highlight was Everton. I'd go foreign again personally if Remi does go. However I don't trust moxeys source not to be spinning a story for their own gain if you catch my drift. 

Cant see the board leaking it. One may speculate (in my eyes anyway) a disgruntled player who doesn't like Garde could be leaking shit to build the media pressure against him. Heard that happening quite a bit throughout the leagues 

Tro surley though that the fact they sacked the man who had just performed miracles to keep them up speaks volumes of the type of guy he is that they were willing and heavily criticised at the time for sacking him? He is s nasty piece of work. You can't condone racism and he basically was saying you can cause his son apologised and didn't deserve the sack for it. 

Should be saying this but I was told by someone who works at Leicester ( a scout as I work at Oxford United)  that Pearson was sacked because of the way his son was supposedly in pearsons eyes was treated unfairly after that video where his son used racial slurs against Thai people whilst on a club in Thailand tour oh Yeah and whilst also **** a  whore.  He didn't/wouldn't accept his son should of been fired over it for and bringing the clubs name into disrepute . And made this point to the clubs Thai owners. 

This is the type of man who could be our new manager ! 

Vile man whose record other than last season is dubious. **** right off ! 

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Has to leave ! He may play the occasional great game but for me he sums up the malaise of our club perfectly and all that's wrong with our supposed great academy 

Whomever is to be our manager next season I want the majority of these turds gone regardless. Lescott, Richards, Agbonlahor etc along with Bruce can **** off ! 

1 hour ago, VillaCas said:

I get that and let's hope he does knuckle down and improve. I'm not at all certain that he will though. Currently he couldn't lace Barkleys boots 

Even if he does make a miraculous comeback I have a further concern that he is a bit of an oddity - not quick enough to be a forward and not hard working enough to be a midfielder. His best bet is wide midfield but I think his lack of defensive discipline lets him down here also - struggling teams can't afford a luxury player like that and good teams can attract better.  I hope I'm proved wrong

All fair points can't argue with any of it. 

Two good managers out of work in Clement & Monk for example will get snapped up if we dither. Hollis doesn't strike me so far to be the dithering type so can see Garde going as soon as our fate is sealed. I reckon they could be a clause that dictates we can terminate his contract for minimal compensation in the event of relegation. 

2 hours ago, VillaCas said:

1 in 30 games, plus 1 assist

League leading for step overs mind!

I'll say it again Barkley's 2nd seasons stats were played 29. 2 goals 1 assist. Third season he has stepped up. Give the boy a chance 

3 hours ago, VillaCas said:

I don't think any of them are! 

30 appearances, 1 assist, 1 goal.  It's not happening. I'd rather take the money now than let him go for nothing later

someone thinks he's worth £12m? What a joke

This isn't 2010. TV money next season means the relegated club gets 99mill. Players (supposed) values have risen sharply. Lewis Grabban cost 8 mill FFS. Tom Ince 4.75 rising to 6 mill. Yes I do believe he is worth 10-12 mill at present given the amount of money available from the tv deal. His stats this season are poor no denying but our team is shit, he's been injured and reprimanded for his poor behaviours. Ross Barkley's 2nd seasons states were played 29 2 goals 1 assist. 

 But yeah let's give him away for pittance cause a young lad in his second season has performed poorly and made a few dubious decisions. It's not like frank lampard & John terry never made a mistake when younger. People can change and learn from their mistakes. Before writing him off let's see shall we? 

I can see the youth set up being revamped under Hollis's review,and I wonder whose head will role ? For too long we have been producing players that either aren't good enough for our 1st team or haven't been given a chance. Something needs to change. I've said it before and I'll say it again (Tin hat time) if that means moving cowans or McDonald out or to another role so be it. 

Just remembered Garry Monk is out of work. Do we go for a manager from the uk or foreign. Murat Yakin is out of work I see but is that too much of a risk ? 

Only with people (potentially)  actually doing the right jobs they are qualified for and not being over promoted ? 

Be interesting to see the value of the Under Armour deal. (Not that it takes away from his overall ineptitude) guessing with relegation it will at best match Macron ?! 

Another great piece of journalism from the Brum Mail Karen **** brady & Faulkner listed. Just when I thought they couldn't come up with a worst list than the other days bargain buys which included Joe Allen & Leandro Damiao they've gone and topped it ! 

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1 hour ago, rodders0223 said:

Mark Bunn

Gestede

Lowton

Bennett

Bowery

Westwood

 

Excuse me if I don't sound excited at the prospect of signing middling lower league players.
Can anybody tell me the last time we signed a player from the lower leagues that was a success? Delph?

 

I think people are kidding themselves if they expect us to sign average journeymen like Alan Judge and mount a promotion push.

We have done poorly in the past no denying but where else are we going to get players from given the fact we will gone down as one of the worst Prem teams ever ? 

As I said we have done it in a bad for sure. But for every shit lower league we have signed other clubs have unearthed gems. 

For every Bennett there is a Cresswell and so on. 

Lower leagues are littered with talent we should be pursuing. Rico Henry should be a priority and a sign of intent of the clubs ambitions Alongside Bradshaw from Walsall.  Hause & Iorfa from Wolves are worth looking at. You have Jordan cousins from Charlton & Billing at Huddersfield, Roofe from Oxford All young & up and coming attainable players who could add to our squad immensely.  If Garde stays a gem or two from the French league. We have our own academy players plus whomever we decide to retain from this years abysmal squad we could/should have a very strong squad that could grow together. 

The future could be bright or dark only time will tell. 

People are really are having a laugh aren't they £5 mill for Grealish are you guys serious?!  

In 96 we paid 4 million for Sasa Curcic, we spent 8.5 million on Reo-Coker 9.5mill on N'Zogbia. Patrick Roberts cost Citeh 8-10 million. Brentford want close 8-9 million for judge. Grealish's unfulfilled potential is worth 12 mill at least even after this season. Sterling at £50 mill ffs 

To give away one of our graduates again on the cheap would be an insult. 

Boys has class, maybe a suspect work ethic who knows, we know he has made bad choices this season. Before writing him off let's see how he does next season. If we are talking about his off the field misdemeanours this time next year then maybe £5 mill is realistic but please come on. Let's support the lad before condemning him to the scrap heap for peanuts after 1 bad season.