billy_loes

Fantasy Premier League 2010/2011

Charles N'Zogbia (age 25) - 167 points (2785 minutes played, 9 goals, 7 assists, 33 bonus points)

Stewart Downing (age 26) - 163 points (3385 minutes played, 7 goals, 9 assists, 18 bonus points)

Ash Young (age 25) - 160 points (3050 minutes played, 7 goals, 11 assists, 27 bonus points)

N'zogbia seems to be a similar calibre of player to Young and Downing.

Would be a good replacement.

Whilst this shows the respective merits of each in attacking sense, what it doesnt show is/was how reliable Downing and Ash are in working back to support their fullback. Something N'Zogbia is not reknowned for?

What.... :shock:

He should be on roughly 35-40k with bonuses, ie for goals scored and assists and etc. Should give him incentive and a potential big wage packet at the end of the month too.

and he'll go somewhere else.

While we've got has been's on 55k a week on the books you've got to be looking at giving him circa 50k pw. N'Zogbia comes into the bracket of 'better player' and they should be paid, its the crap ones (S.Ireland 65k pw) that should be taken off the payroll.

Hi General

I have renewed two season tickets for the forthcoming season. Included in the deal is free AVTV. Very good indeed, however on AVTV at present is an interview with Ron Saunders. I am reluctant to buy AVTV when my ST's are to be delivered shortly and I presume, my free AVTV code.

Will the interview be left on the site for everyone to watch?

I think it was wolves and he was bit closer than I first remembered....

Yeah, I remember thinking to myself 'the little guy got a free, unchallenged header against Stoke and completely missed'. He had a pretty lackluster game that game (as did pretty much everyone else save Bent and Walker), which seems indictment enough for some people here sadly.

That's about it Keyblade. You're right about the last bit too.

Makoun's pass through to Young against wolves was as good as I'd seen all season. (Young missed) the chance one on one) He does show flashes of being above average but I don't think he's a reincarnation of Cruijjf, furthermore I don't think anyone claims that. He gives as good as he gets which bicks translates as not being able to tackle, which is not the case. He does suffer from 'red mist' sometimes. I'm not confident he's settled in this country without having anything to base this on, I just feel he's a fish in the shallows.

If he had have scored from the header, just inside the area, Witton End, cant remember who against, the views maybe different.

I think you're thinking of Stoke IIRC. 'Twas a real sitter though.

Harsh...he was outside the peanlty spot but it was unchallenged. The height he got was very good.

Makoun's pass through to Young against wolves was as good as I'd seen all season. (Young missed) the chance one on one) He does show flashes of being above average but I don't think he's a reincarnation of Cruijjf, furthermore I don't think anyone claims that. He gives as good as he gets which bicks translates as not being able to tackle, which is not the case. He does suffer from 'red mist' sometimes. I'm not confident he's settled in this country without having anything to base this on, I just feel he's a fish in the shallows.

If he had have scored from the header, just inside the area, Witton End, cant remember who against, the views maybe different.

Sorry if I've missed something but why would family in Cameroon mean he wants to move to France? It's hardly down the road. The language thing can stop you settling in but he'll have the summer and pre-season to work on that.

Yeah it was just an opinion mate. I'm not in the Bicks/Risso lets burn him at the stake gang

He hasn't settled in this country and wants to back to France in my opinion.

How can you tell?

Just reading between the lines - the family in Cameroon stuff etc. When I met him in April he hadn't picked up any English. I could be doing him down and be miles off the mark.

He hasn't settled in this country and wants to back to France in my opinion.

I think when we are saying that we won't be having the whole of the Ashley young money to spend, and flogging off Downing - does Lerner even have doug ellis money to spend, let alone a Sheiks.

Pilchard - tell me how much money has Randy Lerner invested in playing staff since he came here?

how you can compare him with Doug I don't know.

What success have we had on the pitch under Lerner compared to under Ellis ?

So far the timeline comparison isnt bad with an unlucky League cup defeat.

Two League cup wins shouldn't be difficult to beat in the next 8 years or so or maybe it will as the changes to football have been dramatic even in the last 3 years.

We haven't been relegated under Randy Lerner something Doug used to regard as an inconvenience.

I don't think Lerner should be berated and lambasted for what he's done for Aston Villa.

I'm not. I'm criticising for what he can no longer do.

You were arguing that two years ago and this last January he spent 18m rising to 24m on Darren Bent. One swallow doesn't make a summer but how you can compare him with Doug I don't know. The level of investment hasn't dropped so dramatically even amid the furore of sell to buy, which every normal club does by the way.

Randy Lerner doesn't have Sheik Mansour type cash to spend ...get over it.

A couple of years ago I got royally slagged off for suggesting that we had to keep spending big money in order to fulfill any ambition of top four and if Randy didn't have that money he should find someone who did. I still believe that to be the case.

What you fail to accept is that there are no oligarch's, Sheik's or Columbian chemist's forming an orderly que to buy Villa, so we're better off with Randy Lerner.

How do we know until we start looking? I mean how were they available for Citeh? The Inidan bloke who has just pulled out of QPR is worth a bob or two I believe.

How do you know there are none available? Just wait for the next club to bought out and come bak and tell me there are none

How do you know Lerner isn't looking?

(Indian bloke, QPR? has he got as much as Lerner?)

What you want is an owner with the spending power of Sheik Mansour and unfortunately there just aren't that many about. You also have to be careful for what you wish for.

I started a thread about investment born out of reports about the NFL lockout and the financial implications for Villa. In this I suggested 3 ways in which things could go.

I don't think Lerner should be berated and lambasted for what he's done for Aston Villa.

A couple of years ago I got royally slagged off for suggesting that we had to keep spending big money in order to fulfill any ambition of top four and if Randy didn't have that money he should find someone who did. I still believe that to be the case.

What you fail to accept is that there are no oligarch's, Sheik's or Columbian chemist's forming an orderly que to buy Villa, so we're better off with Randy Lerner.

You may be right, 2 years left and of good standing I'd say. Got to be at least 25?

I'd agree with that, yeah. But for the other non-financial reasons I've stated above, I'd still tell them to piss off and wait.

I agree with what BOF said earlier. It would be difficult, even if a bid came in on say 20m for the new manager to sell, unless he had a ready replacement that was of equal ability.

There is the possibility that Downing could improve again though. To my mind there is improvement in him. I want to see more shots (yes on target please Stewart) No more hospital balls putting others in the shit and more telling crosses. His confidence seemed to grow as the season went on to the point of thinking he could go to Le Arse. I think he could thrive even more this season with an inspirational manager.

If Downing goes our squad is looking painfully average and frankly threadbare.

For all the midfielders we have none would look exactly dominating or creative.

Far from a top 6 team .

Signing likes of N'Zobgia would hardly change that either.

Theres simply no chance we could sign likes of Adam Johnson this year either.

With Ash gone and Downing likely this will be a much bigger transitional season than last

In other news a meteor the size of Wales is due to hit earth at lunchtime.

We will be up there i reakon. With the squad we have, we should be.

2 or 3 solid signings and i think we will be there or there about too.

So do I but they have to be solid signings.

McCarthy, Adam and Dann and Foster (thats 4 I know)

If Albrighton has a problem its that he tries too hard and needs to calm it down a bit at times. He's very talented and committed but his over eagerness can lead to erratic play. But also brilliance.

He'll get composure with experience.

I'm with you on this Maz. Marc Albrighton could be a real blast this coming season. I think he will thrive under McLeish.

(NB Not all our players are nice people - Marc Albrighton is very nice chap)

More with Woodytom on this one.

Wouldnt really want us to go into the season with Albrighton as a starter. He is effective going forward, but in the other 2/3 of the pitch is a bit of a liability at the moment.

That's not to say I dont think he'll come good, but I actually think Bannan is the better player.

I couldnt disagree more. Albrighton's defensive work was very good.

if both we're to go i'd be a very happy camper if we managed to get N'zogbia and Adam Johnson in as replacements.

I'd be happy too but Johnson isn't coming and we'll be mighty lucky to get N'Zogbia.

I dont think we'll see so much 2 wingers on the pitch and I for one will be glad.

Thanks for the downspin from the Brothers Glum. If we can get 20m for Downing take it because he's not worth it.

Hes yet to kick a ball in champs league yet despoite leaving 2 years back.

Well he got it right didn't he. We're not in the CL and Barry is while he doubled his wages.

What people have to understand is that footballer's aren't particularly bright, they're not loyal (there has never really been loyalty in football) and furthermore they're not all particularly nice people.

Well he's hands like an Orangutan then.

The girls ^^

Edit: its fake