tomsky_11

54 minutes ago, omariqy said:

Sorry am I reading that we have £96m of headroom?

That figure is for the 2021/22 assessment period. This season is two years down the line from that. So lose the first two periods from the above table (-34m) and add 22/23 adjusted results (not published yet but can make a reasonable assumption on these) and you have our headroom for 23/24. It probably comes back to a similar figure. Though we wouldn't want use up all that amount as will make things incredibly difficult next season without major sales. Also because of the UEFA rules as others have mentioned.

A few months back I'd predicted we'd probably be looking a £100m spend across 4 players and bringing in £20-30m moving fringe players, and this would leave us in a reasonable position going forward. We are probably at about £75-85m on 3 players in and around £15-20m on outgoings once Ramsey confirmed, with more fringe players still to shift.

4 hours ago, skarroki said:

If we can get one more to join in the next 24 hours we'll be laughing. Be good to not have the old "AVERAGE" to play every few weeks 

F*** it, I've joined.

57 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

I had a look to see if hibs vs luzern is on tv unfortunately it isnt inly on hibs tv. I might try catch it on my stick if possible as id like tk see how good luzern are.

There are some tasty games this week in the cup

Both legs of Hibs' last round were shown on BBC Scotland. Looks like this wasn't announced until the day before the first leg. So I guess possible BBC could pick up these games as well.

7 minutes ago, Wes said:

Worth noting that if Hearts and Hibs both qualify, the Home/Away legs may get shuffled around - don't think both Edinburgh clubs can host European fixtures on the same day due to policing resources.

Doesn't one or the other get moved either way? They said on draw they decide on potential city and stadium clash changes tomorrow. So they might move or swap the dates even if one or neither team gets through?

1 minute ago, avfc1982am said:

I emailed them last night. got a response today apologising and offering the refund within 5 days

Ok, not offering then, only on request?

11 minutes ago, avfc1982am said:

Wasn't sure where to put this but AVTV are offering refunds for those that purchased the Valencia game. 

Fair play

Where you seen this?

He won't be going anywhere until we have solid back up for Watkins. Even then, plenty of additional games potentially for him to get minutes at a higher level, because that's what we need to see from him. Also, more time with Emery should be beneficial. He's barely had any of that so far. And was back later that other this summer. Feel like if he began to operate similar to how Watkins does now, staying central, that would really suit his game. Drifted out of those areas a little too much the other day I thought.

23 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said:

Already ridiculous rebuttal. How many did we score in Emery 25 games and what was that relative to form table last 25

40 scored 26 conceded. Full season equivalent of 61 and 40. Would have been 7th best attack and 3rd best defence last season.

I wasn't planning on running/joining again as struggled enough to keep up with the non-draft game last season. Think I went from being top around December to bottom by end of season, so can see where I fell off of it.

If there's enough interest this year and you need me in for numbers I can give it a go again.

Did anyone get the final table from VT1? I'm not sure who else was at the bottom with me.

14 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Now explain this in idiot English please?

Are we skint, loaded, or somewhere in between?

I’ve said before I reckon £100M on 4 players averaging £100K pw is reasonable outlay and doesn’t push us to the limit.

What my post outlined above was that, all else being equal in 23/24 compared to 22/23, if we spent what that Twitter guy said we’d maybe pass ffp, but only just.

But important to remember we should see a decent revenue increase in 23/24 via a few sources, while we should hopefully see some fringe player sales that bring us back to a reasonable loss level that doesn’t screw us in 24/25.

11 minutes ago, Sam-AVFC said:

That is not right at all. If we make sales of £120m every summer we can keep spending that year after year, but his figures are way off.

Yeah I've no idea how he's trying to explain it and the numbers he's using look way off as well.

Weirdly he's not far off in terms of the extra £20M of salary plus £190M as being possible without breaking FFP if he's calling all else equal to 22/23. Assuming that £190M is split over 5 years, it's £38M + £20M salary increase = £58M total losses on top of 22/23 figure. 21/22 was a adjusted profit of £21M, so take that from £58M gives £37M losses from 21/22 plus the increase in losses in 23/24 over 22/23. Then take that £37M from the £105M max allowed losses gives £68M, divide that by two gives you the max adjusted loss in 22/23, so £34M. I reckon we are probably somewhere around £35-40M in adjusted losses in 22/23 so it's not far off.

Obviously he completely ignores that maxing out the FFP loss limit in 23/24 would be a dangerous thing to do with £21M of adjusted profits falling out of the equation in 24/25, that would then need to be replicated in 24/25 books while also carrying forward a starting point of around £90M adjusted losses, ie. would need £110M of sales profit, increased revenue and/or decreased costs to not fail FFP in 24/25 if we max out in 23/24.

18 hours ago, MaVilla said:

makes me wonder if we would have wanted to get this done before we tick in to July, to get it on this years books?

who knows i guess.

Doubt it given Villa's accounting year closes end of May.

21 hours ago, Jas10 said:

 

 

 

Sorry, what is this guy on about?!

On 30/06/2023 at 09:38, ender4 said:

The only thing i can think off is that the Grealish leeway drops away for the 23/24 season, yet all the players we sign this summer will still be here in terms of salary and amortisation. So next summer might be really tight and if we don't get a massive bump from Europe & commercial, we might need to sell to buy next summer.

Grealish sale was 21/22, so is within the three year assessment period to 23/24. Things get trickier in 24/25 without further sales, increased revenue and/or decreased costs.

On 13/06/2023 at 22:32, tomsky_11 said:

With sales of only £25M for senior returning loanees, and bringing in 4 players for combined £100M on around £100K a week average, I've got us with 23/24 adjusted losses in the £40-50M range. So no urgent need to sell any of the first team players suggested.

I’d guess we’ve used up £35M of the £100M and half the incoming salary budget but no sales yet. Probably still leaves us around the £50m adj losses range for 23/24 as it stands, with likely capacity for almost double that.

Not close as far as I can tell and have posted previously on here. We’d have to go some to get into trouble given Grealish sale is still contributing to the calc.

Can’t be arsed to listen to whatever Gregg had to say so no idea if he’s given any indication as to how he thinks we are close.

23 minutes ago, bobzy said:

Newcastle's centre mid looks good assuming they get Tonali.  Guimaraes and Joelinton (particularly the latter to be honest) were immense this season; that aggression is what contributed to Newcastle doing so well.  You could also argue for their centre back pairing - Botman and Schar were very solid.  Their defence conceded 33 goals last season; the same as Man City and at least 10 fewer than anyone else.

Newcastle don't have the depth (or quality IMO) we have in our midfield. Joelinton I'd expect to be used futher forward once they start to add players they need in this area. Botman and Schar have been good but again they have very little depth.

26 minutes ago, bobzy said:

I also think it's a bit strange to rate right backs/left backs.  We don't really play with one.  We have a loosely right-sided player and a left-winger backed up by "a defence" and "a midfield".  Moreno looks so good because he's an absolute threat in the attacking sense - he'd be nowhere near the same player being asked to play as, for example, Shaw.

I think it fine to rate the full backs despite the difference in styles, because a judgement can be made on how good they are at what they are asked to do in that position. I think all sides in that group of 9 tend to play a back 4, so all are nominally naming right and left backs. Some are utilised more attacking or defensively than others. I don't think many sides have two left backs of the level of experience and ability that we do, whereas on the right Cash is decent but we have no other senior options there apart from converted centre backs, where as a number of side have two quality options on the right like we have on the left. The difference in styles isn't the issue.

With the signing of Torres now looking likely, I feel like we've probably got one of the strongest sets of centre backs in the league. So I'm now wondering position by position, where does our squad rank compared to the other top teams that we are likely to be competing with for european and potentially a CL place? I feel like there's probably a group of 9 teams in contention: us plus City, Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs, Newcastle and Brighton. So how does our squad now compare?

Goalkeeper - Top 4

Martinez surely puts us near the top of this list, in competition with Ederson, Alisson, Pope and perhaps Ramsdale. Don't think any other sides come close. In terms of back up, most other sides have not always reliable vets or young prospects, no side has two standout keepers.

Right back - 8th/9th

We're near the bottom of this list mostly because right now we only have Cash. If we can sign someone at least on par with him this summer it might get us to the middle of the pack, but most teams have at least two good options here and a very strong first choice. Brighton with Veltman and Lamptey the only side i'd put down with us right now.

Left back - Top 3

Much stronger on the left side with Moreno and Digne. Up with Arsenal (Zinchenko/Tierney) and Liverpool (Robertson/Tsimikas). Maybe only Utd (Shaw/Malacia) and Chelsea (Chilwell/Cucarella) come close otherwise.

Centre back - 3rd to 5th

City probably win this one with Dias, Akanji, Stones, Laporte and Ake. Utd have a decent five in Martinez, Varane, Bailly, Maguire and Lindelof. Otherwise, signing Torres and Carlos hopefully recovering to his best gives us four very good options that not many other teams have. Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea potentially have a solid four, but all have issues with injuries or players either past their peak or yet to reach it.

Centre mid (6s/8s) - 4th/5th

Arsenal have ridiculous depth here and with Rice on the way to add to Partey, Odegaard, Xhaka, Jorginho are very strong too. City have incredible strength with Rodri, Kovacic, De Bruyne and Phillips, though are a little light after that. Liverpool have good quality and a great addition in Mac Allister but are ageing. Utd good strength and depth too. I reckon we are somewhere in the middle of this, Kamara, Luiz and Ramsey all excellent and still improving, McGinn and Tielemans potentially at peak. Dendoncker a solid back up piece.

10s, wingers and strikers - 8th/9th

Not sure if we are better than any side except maybe Brighton in this area. Watkins the best for us and tbf gets a decent goal return. After that we are inconsistent with Buendia, Bailey, Traore or potential only in Duran and Archer. Biggest area we need to improve on this summer and even then we'd be struggling to overtake even one or two more teams in this regard.

Overall then, I think we have an incredible base to build a top 4/5 side, but are severely lacking in forward areas compared to the competition and have a long way to go to catch some of these other sides up.

Anyone agree/disagree with any of these rankings and where we likely sit overall in the CL race?

26 minutes ago, villan95 said:

These were my attempts at a diamond shaped AV badge

And with the star incorporated

quick image upload

Last one is probably a bit much? 

I'd gone more sutble with the AV and added stripes. Also tilted the lion forward about 10 degrees.

1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Bit of a mess this ain't it? If true.

This whole BK8 partnership...

 

 

Absolute non-story as far as I can tell. The strike off is due to being late filing. Imagine would get cleared up.

This company owning the trademark and appearing dormant at last accounts also looks like nothing to me.

There's plenty of other issues with being sponsored by this company without clutching at stuff like this.

22 minutes ago, sne said:

That's the thinking. Issue is if Charlotte is in a place where they should take the better fit or the best player. Time will tell.

Feels very on brand for Charlotte to add a guy with off filed issues to go with their current and recent players with their wife beating, drug smuggling, falling asleep drunk behind the wheel with a gun in their lap and gold digger baby mamas. Then again a never fit and shocking out of shape Zion Williamson who never played while sitting on a massive contract would have probable been the ultimate Charlotte trade.

You're looking to take Bridges back as well, right?

Our picks were not as expected.

Well, 6 was if you believed the media reports, which are almost never right with Orlando (see last year's draft). But it wasn't a rumour many fans on socials seemed to believe. Nor was it a pick many seemed happy with. Most were looking for one of the Thompsons (obviously never fell to us) or Whitmore (fell, and kept on falling, whatever is going on there?).

Picking Black has to mean a trade or two coming up with Fultz, Suggs, Cole and Black now vying for the PG spot, and contract decision on the first three of them this summer I think. Which is a shame because they all have something to offer the side, while Black a bit of an unknown. Hopefully Fultz isn't going anywhere, as he's almost as important to the team as Paolo and Franz. Suggs I guess seems most likely to go if Black can cover his defensive work.

11 was the shooter we desparately needed, but not the shooter everyone was expecting. Howard was projected in the 20s which I guess begs the question could we have traded down? Like everyone else I'd just assumed we'd be getting Dick if he dropped to us, and Howard was really on the radar. As far as I can tell though, he's not quite as good a shooter, but with a better all round offensive game than Dick, while there was talk he's been playing injured all year (shock Magic talking players with injury history!) so they reckon his numbers are down on where they should be. Hopefully that is the case.

4 hours ago, sne said:

Miller it is. Hopefully Jordan didn't leave Charlotte with a final f**k o** by getting this wrong. Scoot feels like a safer bet but it is what it is.

Miller better fit though? Scoot and LaMelo more of a clash right?