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Game, not games. You can't use the plural. 29% of the fans want MON out after one game.

And you can't use the end of last year as reasoning either, because we all looked at the table at the end of the season and were happy with our position, and that takes into account the whole season not just the bits we want to remember to illustrate our point. Last year is gone. Over. If you want to get your red pens and clipboards out and start shouting 'WRONG', then at least be consistent.

In fact, why stop at one game, why not ask for MON's head after the first half of the first game, or after the first bad pass?

I will entertain this discussion at Christmas, not before. I've never known such impatient whiners in my life.

EDIT.

OK... 25%

Show's fickleness IMO!

It shows that people love the Villa and want the best for it. Wanting one underperforming clun employee sacked isn't being fickle. Going off to support another team would be fickle.

You call booing at half time when 1 down support?

I don't believe they were booing due to the score. I believe it was the horrible football that was being played by the home side.

And we played better after all the booing, Yes?

Show's fickleness IMO!

It shows that people love the Villa and want the best for it. Wanting one underperforming clun employee sacked isn't being fickle. Going off to support another team would be fickle.

You call booing at half time when 1 down support?

Certainly everyone is entitled to an opinion ,this is Britain. You are absolutely entitled as paying fans to act like spoiled fickle cocks after one game, particularly after a successful pre-season. Just don't be surprised when folks start laughing and if god forbid, those who are asking for MON to be sacked get their way, don't blame others when that kind of short termism leads to our downfall.

The fact that this thread is being rehashed after one game, and the booing when the players need SUPPORT from 'supporters' is frankly embarrassing.

James Milner scares grass.

In training,when James Milner does press-ups, he doesn't push his body up, he pushes the world down.

The bent and west ham situation, I find quite funny. West Ham are clearly going to be the next Leeds. They buy up players, and put them on crazy wages (if i remember rightly, parker was given a wage of about 70k a week) 80k a week for bent. Its not like their owner has Abramovich wealth. I prefer the way we are building and (much as I hate to say it) how spuds have progressed, by buying potential. We all praise our youth system, and rightly so, but there are several coming through (steiber springs to mind) who were aquired at the age of 16, or 17 on the basis of promise, and moulded by the youth setup into potentially quality premiership players. I prefer our way.

Spam are going for short term success, we are building a legacy.

It was a joke, but consider myself rebuked. I would sign the chap tomorrow. MON has obviously been speaking to Big John about him and hopefully, the fact that BJ (unfortunate initials) is enjoying his football here will persuade him. It would be a serious coup, but I just hope that a deal is close if it is coming, because we may be drawing a bit too much attention to this one.

He is something special...

That was a special goal, but let's not ever buy a keeper from the french league, cos on most of the videos put up so far, they look like a bag of spanners.

Just can't see the point of youtube videos of players.

The worst player in the world can be made to look good with a compilation video.

I want to set someone a challenge to make titus bramble look like a defensive god on you tube. That would be really funny.

If it was just one game then it's ok, but if not, that is a seriously misguided trademark.

What the monkeys is all the dummy thing about. I though the savo bandanna thing was quite cool, but seriously! a dummy?

Dont ya just love it when someone says their uncles best mates barber saw ronaldo trying on clothes at primark at the bullring or something. I live for days like that.

I think this is why everyone seems to be going nuts on this thread. We need rumours damn it!!

Do you not think that there has been a definite attempt on behalf of the club so far to be quiet with regard to transfers. In previous years we have had to officially play up every link, so that it looks like we have ambition.

I prefer this way.

Newcastle are an anomoly. Reading on the other hand are a common occurence and only bolton have ever been able to turn the first good season into a dynasty. For reading look at Sunderland 2001, Ipswich qualifying for europe and then getting relegated. These teams get found out eventually when opposition managers work out how to best play them in the second season. You can get a limited side to work hard be disciplined and over achieve only for so long before you have to add more quality to survive.

Point is, if we do go for top signings, I would rather have a carew/young type who fit into a system rather than a real marquee player for whom we have to adapt a new system, and who does not gel with our overall style of play.

Newcastle have lots of big names, reading don't. Look at the league. First and foremost there must be a functioning team. If subsequent signings are prestige players it would be immense, but I would take a team of hardworking professionals over names signed for their own sake. Just because they aren't big names, does not mean they would not improve our first team or give options with regard to team formation. Any random right back from a middling prem. team would be in our first team. And any halfway decent defensive midfielder.

maturity, and patience are the two things we need. And tenacity. Maturity patience and tenacity are the three things we need. And cunning... etc, etc.

Yes, it's the maturity of the fans we need to worry about now

Good point.

The one thing I am worried about. Well actually 'worried' is the wrong word. The one annoying thing that I know is inevitable is that plenty in here are going to jump on any signing that is not world class. I just hope against hope that those people realise that not EVERY signing is going to be a top player. In fact not every signing may even be a first teamer. There's a bigger project going on here right from top to bottom, short, medium and long term.

Spot on, and it's also fair to say that with the maturity of the current crop of youth talent that we have nurtured and most crucially, have held on to, we already have the basis of a decent side when fully fit. In my opinion the wholesale changes that some on here tout as a new horizon for villa may not happen and may be unwarrented in any case.

That's a good question, if the transfer market has not yet opened, how come there are deals going through? Is it like a pre-agreement or something, and if so, should a player change his mind, could he legally back out of that agreement after it has been announced?

That's not really the point I'm making. I'm just saying that the Spurs collect midfielders like Arsenal used to collect centre backs. Of course he should get his game there, but his agent might just draw his attention to the LONG list of midfielders who have had issues there.

I hope not, because if agents did that we would never sign another striker.

I think a comparision with someone like Balaban would have been fairer.

Fair point. Acknowledged.

You realise an injury ended his career after playing 3 times for us don't you?

Eh? course I do, he could have been a great signing, and was expected to be after THAT wonder goal, but it wasn't a great signing, just as when the barcodes signed one of the world's best finishers in Owen, it wasn't a great signing cos he spent most of his time keeping the x-ray machine ticking over.

Are you dissing Luc Nilis?

Sorry dude, the guy was class, but.... well it didn't turn out great as a signing did it?